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Red UFO · Nov 21, 2011

TheOGB said:
I actually never noticed it said Mario Madness

Okay, this is the real mind-blowing fact here.

Talladega Knight · Nov 21, 2011

what game did they first invert mario's colors? he now wears a red undershirt and blue overalls.

SuperAngelo64 · Nov 21, 2011

Talladega Knight said:
what game did they first invert mario's colors? he now wears a red undershirt and blue overalls.

In terms of the art, they switched back and forth until Mario Bros. 3. After that it was always blue overalls and a red undershirt.

Nuclear Muffin · Nov 21, 2011

Platy said:
by tiny cartridge wich saw it at this guy's twitter

Ok, now that is an awesome find! Someone at NOA got lazy!

Utako · Nov 21, 2011

DiipuSurotu said:
Too bad the game didn't actually look like that.

I just realized that Journey is a pretty close approximation.

Drkirby · Nov 21, 2011

Nuclear Muffin said:
Ok, now that is an awesome find! Someone at NOA got lazy!

They were smart to really switch up the angle, it is hard to just spot.

morningbus · Nov 21, 2011

Andrex said:
Mario got a tan for SMB2.

Mario went GTL.

Duane Cunningham · Nov 21, 2011

Nuclear Muffin said:
Ok, now that is an awesome find! Someone at NOA got lazy!

It's funny, somehow you can tell the original is a Japanese artist (probably Miyamoto) and the trace is a western artist.

iirate · Nov 21, 2011

Mista Koo said:
I can see this being well known for most, but it did blow my mind ~~and change my life forever~~:

So static art isn't as useless as I thought

This was well known to me, but I'm an art major, so that shouldn't be a shocker.

Dunan said:
de Chirico.

Mind blown indeed.

THIS, however, blew my mind.

TheOGB said:
I actually never noticed it said Mario Madness

Also, I definitely remember using the "Mario Madness" tagline on several drawings of Mario I did as a kid.

Myriadis · Nov 21, 2011

It's probably a concidence, like this Battlefield Trailer and the Inception main theme, but it's really cool nonetheless

The Mass Effect Theme fits into the intro of Star Trek:Voyager. Same length, and there are indeed some parts where the music really fits, especially towards the end (at 1:24 and later) and the logo.
Interesting since both are thematically rather close. (Space and all that stuff with aliens and traveling around in a certain ship)

Luigi87 · Nov 21, 2011

Platy said:
Famicom Mario art = Mario 2 US art

Okay, that's a pretty neat find.

... It also always gets me that even though Mario's shirt and overalls are inverted, it still seems so natural.

KittenMaster · Nov 21, 2011

SuperAngelo64 said:
In terms of the art, they switched back and forth until Mario Bros. 3. After that it was always blue overalls and a red undershirt.

This always angered me as a kid because I always liked the red overalls better.

Actually the colors for Mario & Luigi tended to be pretty confusing and inconsistent as a kid.

SuperAngelo64 · Nov 22, 2011

KittenMaster said:
This always angered me as a kid because I always liked the red overalls better.

Actually the colors for Mario & Luigi tended to be pretty confusing and inconsistent as a kid.

I liked it because as a little kid it was way easier to find blue overalls than red ones.

viewtiful_dru · Nov 22, 2011

I'm verry late with this but this is for Streets of Rage fans:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzbUPISS6gw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO14WFh1k-I

Jasoco · Nov 23, 2011

SuperAngelo64 said:
In terms of the art, they switched back and forth until Mario Bros. 3. After that it was always blue overalls and a red undershirt.

Although, due to technological restrictions, Mario had black overalls in-game sprite-wise in 3 and a mustard brown/yellow shirt and red overalls in 1. But in 2, he did have blue overalls and a red shirt in-game. The box art was just a quick copy from the first game's official art. They just forgot to swap the colors. But the sprites were correct in 2. But incorrect in 1 and 3.

RC · Nov 23, 2011

viewtiful_dru said:
I'm verry late with this but this is for Streets of Rage fans:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzbUPISS6gw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO14WFh1k-I

Thats new to me. Great find. Although you've officially ruined stage 4 for me.

Ulthwe · Nov 23, 2011

I noticed this the other day:

Some icons in the top screen (DSiWare ones as far as I can tell) show a little protuberance on their backs. Guess what's that for?

For arranging them in the grid of course!

ArjanN · Nov 23, 2011

Kiiji said:
In Pokemon Black/White, your basic goal in the game is to awaken one of the legendary dragons (Zekrom/Reshiram) in order to defeat N, who has awakened the other. The in-game backstory in B/W as to how these dragons were created is a legend of ancient times in which two twins fought each other, and a legendary dragon which they both attempted to control. As a result of the twins' disagreements, the dragon split into two (a light dragon and a dark dragon, aka Reshiram and Zekrom). In the end, the fight between these two opposites results in the complete destruction of the region.

That legend sound familiar?

It's the plot of MOTHER 3.

It's also the plot of about a million fantasy books/games/anime, etc. It's just a generic fantasy trope.

Desiato · Nov 23, 2011

Ulthwe said:
I noticed this the other day:

Some icons in the top screen (DSiWare ones as far as I can tell) show a little protuberance on their backs. Guess what's that for?

For arranging them in the grid of course!

Consider my mind fucking blown. Wow.

Nuclear Muffin · Nov 23, 2011

Oh wow, that's cool! (3DS menu) I didn't even notice that before!

Nice touch!

CloakBass · Nov 23, 2011

Platy said:
by tiny cartridge wich saw it at this guy's twitter

Somewhat related...

When I was young, we had the illustrator of the SMB2 boxart visit our elementary school. He was being promoted as the artist for Rugrats joke books at the time. I think he also had some production art from Angry Beavers hanging up at his booth. I asked him to draw Mario, but he politely declined due to the line behind me. Thinking back though, man that would've been awesome!

Rlan · Nov 23, 2011

Platy said:
by tiny cartridge wich saw it at this guy's twitter

Makes sense for why Mario's color scheme (red overalls, blue shirt) are incorrect compared to the Mario 2 in-game sprite (blue overalls, red shirt) that was used for every game since.

Azure Dream · Nov 23, 2011

Is this official SMB2 artwork too, though? I think it might be.

The American cartoons also used red and green overalls up to the Super Mario World one. The Valiant comics did too, even when it was tracing from the box art.

Brazil · Nov 23, 2011

Ulthwe said:
I noticed this the other day:

Some icons in the top screen (DSiWare ones as far as I can tell) show a little protuberance on their backs. Guess what's that for?

For arranging them in the grid of course!

And that's why I love Nintendo's OSs. They're so full of details.

Azure Dream · Nov 23, 2011

Brazil said:
And that's why I love Nintendo's OSs. They're so full of details.

To the point where they prioritized refining the details and adding "quirks" over adding basic, expected features. If they spent way too long making all sorts of quirky little animations for a "downloading" screen nobody wants to see after the first time, is it time well-spent?

Brazil · Nov 23, 2011

Kulock said:
To the point where they prioritized refining the details and adding "quirks" over adding basic, expected features. If they spent way too long making all sorts of quirky little animations for a "downloading" screen nobody wants to see after the first time, is it time well-spent?

I like it and all the other details, so yeah.

Azure Dream · Nov 23, 2011

Brazil said:
I like it and all the other details, so yeah.

I like them too, but I really think they should've had the basics sorted out first before they worried about the quirks.

Roto13 · Nov 23, 2011

Kulock said:
To the point where they prioritized refining the details and adding "quirks" over adding basic, expected features. If they spent way too long making all sorts of quirky little animations for a "downloading" screen nobody wants to see after the first time, is it time well-spent?

Ha ha ha ha, wow

Esiquio · Nov 23, 2011

Ulthwe said:
I noticed this the other day:

Some icons in the top screen (DSiWare ones as far as I can tell) show a little protuberance on their backs. Guess what's that for?

For arranging them in the grid of course!

Awesome find! I was just wondering that myself yesterday.

Talladega Knight · Nov 23, 2011

Kulock said:
To the point where they prioritized refining the details and adding "quirks" over adding basic, expected features. If they spent way too long making all sorts of quirky little animations for a "downloading" screen nobody wants to see after the first time, is it time well-spent?

i'm sure that's exactly how it works at companies.

Emitan · Nov 23, 2011

Kiiji said:
Notice the similar geological landmarks. The ones that immediately stick out are the two mountains and their valley, and Murasaki Forest.

These don't look similar besides having 2 mountains.

Akainu · Nov 23, 2011

Talladega Knight said:
i'm sure that's exactly how it works at companies.

No, just Nintendo.

Venfayth · Nov 23, 2011

I noticed this a while ago, I tried a couple different searches but didn't come up with anything, so sorry if this has been mentioned already ;p

The themes in these two songs are almost exactly the same. The songs are different, but I'm always reminded of the other game when I hear them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xZwl_8dkNk - FF5 Royal Palace
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCnY_jTm7jI - SMRPG Mushroom Kingdom

Sorry if no one finds that as cool as I do, hehe.

Gui_PT · Nov 23, 2011

Billychu said:
These don't look similar besides having 2 mountains.

Yeah, that seems to be pretty much it.

Nuclear Muffin · Nov 23, 2011

Spoilers for Mario 3D Land...

Special world 8's music is a remix of the Flipnote Mario Drawing Song! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m43W4o6its8 compared to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSb2R9mJ1gY

Platy · Nov 23, 2011

CloakBass said:
Somewhat related...

When I was young, we had the illustrator of the SMB2 boxart visit our elementary school. He was being promoted as the artist for Rugrats joke books at the time. I think he also had some production art from Angry Beavers hanging up at his booth. I asked him to draw Mario, but he politely declined due to the line behind me. Thinking back though, man that would've been awesome!

...or was it because he didn't had the japanese boxart to trace ? =O

dr3upmushroom · Nov 27, 2011

Can someone explain the 3DS thing to me? I guess I'm missing something very obvious here but I don't see what the bump on the back of the cartridge has to do with the game's place on the grid.

radioheadrule83 · Nov 27, 2011

dr3upmushroom said:
Can someone explain the 3DS thing to me? I guess I'm missing something very obvious here but I don't see what the bump on the back of the cartridge has to do with the game's place on the grid.

If you imagine the grid as a 3D object, those little sockets are where the back of the 3D Icons would slot into to keep them in place.

Onion_Relish · Nov 27, 2011

Billychu said:
These don't look similar besides having 2 mountains.

I'm glad someone said it because I was sure thinking it.

On a side note I ccan guarantee this has been pointed out but drakes guide tenzin in du:2 is obviously a reference to tenzing, the first man (along with edmund hillary) to climb mount everest.

dr3upmushroom · Nov 27, 2011

radioheadrule83 said:
If you imagine the grid as a 3D object, those little sockets are where the back of the 3D Icons would slot into to keep them in place.

Oh, OK, I see it now. Seems kind of weird that it's apparently only on some icons. And it's even more weird because even if the grid actually were a shelf, obviously it wouldn't require weird tab things to keep stuff on there.

radioheadrule83 · Nov 27, 2011

Garcia · Nov 27, 2011

radioheadrule83 said:
I think Skyward Sword is probably a bit too new to post about here without spoiler tags, but if any of you have completed the game already and would like to read some interesting links that might improve your appreciation of the game, try these on for size!

http://neogaf.net/forum/showpost.php?p=32909736&postcount=28
http://neogaf.net/forum/showpost.php?p=32914431&postcount=38
http://neogaf.net/forum/showpost.php?p=32918855&postcount=40
http://neogaf.net/forum/showpost.php?p=32936264&postcount=95
http://neogaf.net/forum/showpost.php?p=32947287&postcount=116
http://neogaf.net/forum/showpost.php?p=32948162&postcount=122
http://neogaf.net/forum/showpost.php?p=32948606&postcount=129
http://neogaf.net/forum/showpost.php?p=32948811&postcount=131
http://neogaf.net/forum/showpost.php?p=32953411&postcount=141
http://neogaf.net/forum/showpost.php?p=32955448&postcount=143
http://neogaf.net/forum/showpost.php?p=32962888&postcount=156

Thank you!!

Dunan said:
de Chirico.

Mind blown indeed.

OMFG.

Forkball · Nov 27, 2011

Mista Koo said:
I can see this being well known for most, but it did blow my mind ~~and change my life forever~~:

So static art isn't as useless as I thought

This is pretty well known. I recommend next time you find something more obsc-

Dunan said:
de Chirico.

Mind blown indeed.

Roto13 · Nov 29, 2011

Major Skyward Sword spoiler:

Remember that Ballad of the Goddess is actually Zelda's Lullaby backwards? Well I'm pretty late in the game and it was just revealed that Zelda is the goddess the ballad is for. So Zelda's character theme is the goddess theme backwards because Zelda herself is secretly the goddess.

djtiesto · Nov 29, 2011

viewtiful_dru said:
I'm verry late with this but this is for Streets of Rage fans:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzbUPISS6gw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO14WFh1k-I

Yuzo Koshiro's influences for SoR

EvilMario · Nov 30, 2011

I just discovered Malon's Bowser necklace in Ocarina after all these years. I'm such a noob. ;_;

Taco_Human · Nov 30, 2011

EvilMario said:
I just discovered Malon's Bowser necklace in Ocarina after all these years. I'm such a noob. ;_;

Hope you noticed Talon is Mario and Ingo is Luigi.

Drkirby · Dec 3, 2011

A minor one, Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance is actually referred to Fire Emblem 8 in the files, despite being the 9th game in the series. Implies the game was started before or expected to be finished before Sacred Stones. Noticed it when playing around with Dolphin, in the Filesystem Browser.

Javier · Dec 3, 2011

Drkirby said:
A minor one, Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance is actually referred to Fire Emblem 8 in the files, despite being the 9th game in the series. Implies the game was started before or expected to be finished before Sacred Stones. Noticed it when playing around with Dolphin, in the Filesystem Browser.

That's because Sacred Stones and Path of Radiance were developed pretty much alongside each other, and during development they weren't sure which one was going to come out first.

In fact, it's very possible Path of Radiance started development way earlier. There was an FE game planned for the N64, but that was canceled. It is highly speculated, though, that FE 64 is the game that eventually became Path of Radiance.

Ben Morales · Dec 4, 2011

djtiesto said:
Yuzo Koshiro's influences for SoR

Thank you so much for this link. This explains why I personally prefer SoR1's soundtrack to SoR2 (even though SoR2 is excellent!).

I grew up on music like Technotronic and that style just strikes a magic chord with me.

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