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Ubisoft suing SomethingAwful for fake porno image of Jade Raymond on its forums

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Boards of Canada

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SDZeta said:
It really sucks for her. Think about it when she just walks around the Ubisoft office now with everyone around having seen or knowing about it.
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Oh please. She put herself out there. Plus that photo of her standing 4 feet ahead of the TEAM is more distasteful than that comic.
 
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X26

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Mike said:
That's incredibly degrading.

And there's not even a joke, it just presents her as a tramp. What the hell did she do to deserve that?

I know: She made the mistake of being an attractive woman working in the videogame industry.
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Stoney Mason

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SDZeta said:
It really sucks for her. Think about it when she just walks around the Ubisoft office now with everyone around having seen or knowing about it.
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OMG!!! She will know that people think she's hot!!!!!

Also no one would know about this if Ubisoft hadn't sent the letter making it a bigger story.
 
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D2M15

DAFFY DEUS EGGS
PepsimanVsJoe said:
What's up with the guy reading Maxim? :lol
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EDIT: JADE IS NOT APPEARING IN MAXIM, THIS IS JUST THE SOURCE OF THE COMIC

GT FORUMS:
so my friend is working as an intern editor at maxim and he says that jade will grace the cover of december's issue which will feature "girls of gaming"! she will also have her own spread showing her in a green an white striped bikini in an exotic local (montreal). it will also feature other hot women in the gaming industry as well as competitive gaming. man i can't fricken wait! i haven't jacked to still images since 1999!

Angry Gamer:
One thing I don't really understand is why she's being given so much credit for the game. Last time I checked, Assassin's Creed had a team of 80+ people. I'm pretty sure she didn't do the animation. Or the sound effects. Or the code that makes the controller rumble when you get hit. Yet over and over again we're told that this is Jade Raymond's Assassin's Creed. She's the driving force. The visionary.
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neptunes

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Mike said:
That's incredibly degrading.

And there's not even a joke, it just presents her as a tramp. What the hell did she do to deserve that?

I know: She made the mistake of being an attractive woman working in the videogame industry.
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Whaat if peter moore was to throw a tantrum over the numerous photoshops of him on internet forums?

especially the ones with im as a bum?? or the one with him and Perrin Kaplan :p
 
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Rekki-Maru

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Tieno said:
Please let it be known that hereforth I have read the express mail and email sent thereforth by Famous Lawyer David Anderson of the Famous Lawyer Law Business of Nixon Peabody LLP, and furthermore a declaration shall be expressed on the part of Internet User Rich “Lowtax” Kyanka that thatforth herethrough I have conducted rigorous tests implemented through a vigorous barrage of legal studies, and furthermore hitherthrough these rigorous tests have therefore proven Famous Lawyer David Anderson of the Famous Lawyer Law Business of Nixon Peabody LLP shall be recognized as a man of the fag persuasion.

Pursuant to the United Dairy Council

Rich “Lowtax” Kyanka
Internet


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ahahaa! that was awsome.

"hitherthrough" :lol
 
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monchi-kun

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Boards of Canada said:
Oh please. She put herself out there. Plus that photo of her standing 4 feet ahead of the TEAM is more distasteful than that comic.
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there is no excuse to demean women who don't work in the porn industry...no excuse
 
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Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
Also, this law firm should be punished. The image is clearly not libelous. Libel requires two things: 1) to be a factual assertion rather than an opinion, and 2) to be made maliciously rather than as commentary, review, or satire. This image clearly does not support either.

These lawyers have sent out the letter in an effort to get the content removed. They are representing themselves as lawyers while doing it, and alleging that this sort of thing is against the law. It is not. The lawyers should be sanctioned or disbarred along with any other lawyer who wields the power of the law in a knowingly incorrect way. Lawyers have the legal right to act in a specific capacity; in exchange, they should also have the legal responsibility not to abuse their power. This is not merely wrong, it is frivolous. There is prima facie no evidence.

Furthermore, even if this image was somehow libelous, they're sending the C&D to the wrong person. Owners of communities are not legally held liable for the content created by their users. The users are. The C&D should be being sent to WaffleImages.com, which is an image hosting site, or it should be sent directly to the person that uploaded the image. Courts both in the US and abroad have repeatedly ruled to this effect.
 
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Mike

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bryehn said:
I'm no lawyer...but isn't parody of an IP completely legal in the states? Plus, they never actually used Jade's last name.
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Yes, you clearly are no legal expert.

Number 1: It is not a parody of an IP. A human is not an IP.

Number 2: It doesn't matter whether they used her full name or not. Courts don't care how much of a name you use, just whether or not it's clear who you're defaming. It's clear in this case.
 
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SupraDarky

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Stoney Mason said:
OMG!!! She will know that people think she's hot!!!!!

Also no one would know about this if Ubisoft hadn't sent the letter making it a bigger story.
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Yeah exactly, that Ubisoft letter only made it worst. It doesn't change the fact that it must suck bad for her right now, stop trying to say it doesn't, wow.
 
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gray_fox224

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Mike said:
Yes, you clearly are no legal expert.

Number 1: It is not a parody of an IP. A human is not an IP.

Number 2: It doesn't matter whether they used her full name or not. Courts don't care how much of a name you use, just whether or not it's clear who you're defaming. It's clear in this case.
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:lol
 
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superbank

The definition of front-butt.
SDZeta said:
Oh and there was also a fake porno image of a naked girl with Jade Raymond's face on it, it was pretty damn realistic. I really thought that was the image that triggered Ubisoft's reaction, more than this comic.. But oh well. :p
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That makes more sense. What was the image like? We need details...

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Kusagari

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Mike said:
Yes, you clearly are no legal expert.

Number 1: It is not a parody of an IP. A human is not an IP.

Number 2: It doesn't matter whether they used her full name or not. Courts don't care how much of a name you use, just whether or not it's clear who you're defaming. It's clear in this case.
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It's a comic strip. She is a celebrity in the video game world, so how is this different from any other comic strip of this nature about a celebrity? I've seen crap like this about other celebrities before.
 
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Stoney Mason

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SDZeta said:
Yeah exactly, that Ubisoft letter only made it worst. It doesn't change the fact that it must suck bad for her right now, stop trying to say it doesn't, wow.
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If your life revolves around worrying about people making internet comics about then you have a pretty good life
 
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dammitmattt

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Mike said:
Yes, you clearly are no legal expert.

Number 1: It is not a parody of an IP. A human is not an IP.

Number 2: It doesn't matter whether they used her full name or not. Courts don't care how much of a name you use, just whether or not it's clear who you're defaming. It's clear in this case.
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Neither are you. Parody is parody.

Plus, the comic is meant to be commentary on how people will buy the game solely because they are into Jade, even though the comic is poorly done.
 
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Dali

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D2M15 said:
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kotaku said:
The Rumor: martin85 over at GameTrailers.com Forums writes, "so my friend is working as an intern editor at maxim and he says that jade will grace the cover of december's issue which will feature "girls of gaming"! she will also have her own spread showing her in a green an white striped bikini in an exotic local (montreal). it will also feature other hot women in the gaming industry as well as competitive gaming. man i can't fricken wait! i haven't jacked to still images since 1999!"

The Smash: Last night at the Assassin's Creed shindig, producer Jade Raymond personally told Guest Editor Geoff Keighley that those rumors were totally untrue and that she's never do something like that. She actually seemed somewhat offended people thought she would. Ubisoft PR got so many inquiries about it almost had to issue and official statement. So, while this rumor so SMASHED, please don't rule out Creative Director Patrice Desilets' Maxim spread!
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$h@d0w

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neptunes said:
Whaat if peter moore was to throw a tantrum over the numerous photoshops of him on internet forums?

especially the ones with im as a bum?? or the one with him and Perrin Kaplan :p
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Not to mention the numerous Samuel L Jackson photoshops...
 
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CrushDance

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My problem* here is although we always view people like Miyamoto, Jaffe, Balrog, Molyneux, Itagaki etc as "the minds behind the games" and some of them have big egos sometimes. I've never seen them do something as "extravagant" as the picture posted above with Jade standing out so much from the rest. I'm not saying it's a bad thing but she put herself out there to much, and no she shouldn't be treated badly for that. Just saying.

We know she's the face of the game but it's a bit much I think. But I mean people make fun of the others as well, Jades is "worst" because the easiest thing for her to be attacked with is her gender.

Edit: And she's putting herself in Maxim as well? *sigh* hard to argue this one that much I guess.

Edit: So it's false? I take back what I said.

This is to far in my opinion. And no I've never liked Jade -_-
 
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Mike

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Kusagari said:
It's a comic strip. She is a celebrity in the video game world, so how is this different from any other comic strip of this nature about a celebrity? I've seen crap like this about other celebrities before.
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This will never see a day in court, but just for the sake of the argument:

Defamation is defamation. If CBS ran a TV show where they alleged that an actress used sex to obtain starring roles, they woudl be open to a serious defamation lawsuit.
 
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Nolan.

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Boards of Canada said:
Oh please. She put herself out there. Plus that photo of her standing 4 feet ahead of the TEAM is more distasteful than that comic.
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I don't think anyone puts themself out there to be degraded in that fashion.
 
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bryehn

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Mike said:
Yes, you clearly are no legal expert.

Number 1: It is not a parody of an IP. A human is not an IP.

Number 2: It doesn't matter whether they used her full name or not. Courts don't care how much of a name you use, just whether or not it's clear who you're defaming. It's clear in this case.
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I was thinking more along the line that Ubisoft could say they used the name Assassin's Creed in a defamatory way
 
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Mike

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dammitmattt said:
Neither are you. Parody is parody.
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This is a useful guide to parody and fair use.

http://www.publaw.com/parody.html

After you read it, explain to me how that comic is a parody of an existing franchise. It's certainly not a parody of Assassin's Creed. What is it a parody of?

And as a matter of fact, this case would not be about parody. The word parody would never enter in to it. It's a defamation case, if anything.
 
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cprime85

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Besides the original comic not having a point to other than to defame someone, the reply by PA is utterly tasteless. I'm with Ubisoft on this one. Oh yeah, PA continues to suck as it always has.
 
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DrXym

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I feel sorry for Jade for getting so much juvenile and unwanted attention (including on this forum). But on the other hand, it's not like it should come as a shock or surprise that she does get it.
 
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InterMoniker

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DrXym said:
I feel sorry for Jade for getting so much juvenile and unwanted attention (including on this forum). But on the other hand, it's not like it should come as a shock or surprise that she does get it.
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Unfortunately it's unavoidable, there's just too many perverts out there. :/
 
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Saitou

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There's a precedent of this in DiMeo III vs Max, where this NYC hotdog tried suing the owner of a forum over derogatory comments made towards him by forum members.

He lost spectacularly, to the point where the judge issued what can only be described as a legal bitchslap.
 
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Chinner

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Doesn't really make sense to sue SA when they didn't even make the comic. One of their members just posted the image on the forums. I'd say that doesn't really hold that much grounds to a case, or would I be wrong...?
 
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Stoney Mason

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cprime85 said:
Besides the original comic not having a point to other than to defame someone, the reply by PA is utterly tasteless. I'm with Ubisoft on this one. Oh yeah, PA continues to suck as it always has.
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