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12 Year old boy gets shotgun for Christmas. What does he do with it? (America..)
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plasmasd
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Dabookerman said:
It is very different in rural areas of the US. I fired a .45 1911 when I was around six. (I still remember it almost flying out of my hands.) For most of my childhood it was abnormal if someone didn't have or didn't know how to fire a gun. Most of the kids my age were taking hunter safety courses by the time they were 12. However, I'm still the only person I know that grew up with a real 1/2 scale naval cannon in his room.
MMaRsu
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Cheeto said:
Lol it's not the gun's fault but it's used as a tool for killing. That's all a gun is. If guns are banned you have less gun related crimes. How many people get killed by guns here in The Netherlands you think?
Or how many kids use guns here and shoot their own family or friends with it?
Ofcourse guns will never be banned in the US. Too much money is made off it,too many corporations. Yet things like marijuana are illegal. Lol.
Cheeto said:
I doubt that they'd give him no chance of parole if he got convicted of a crime he committed at age 12.
Honestly with this story I'm more upset at the father who gave his kid a gun when he apparently had some major problems with his step-mother. You'd think that he might have told his dad that he disliked her that much. Either way, I shot a gun well prior to that age and I was fully aware of how dangerous guns were and how you're never supposed to point them at anyone, even when you're kidding or think that the gun is unloaded. You always assume it's loaded and you just never point a gun at anyone.
MMaRsu said:
We have something here called the constitution that guarantees certain rights to US citizens. Part of that said constitution is something called the 2nd amendment that grants US citizens the right to bear arms. To overturn an amendment takes quite a bit of effort and politicians working together, and that is just not going to happen.
Also, if you're not from our country, kindly stay away from the whole advice thing.
Hari Seldon
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MMaRsu said:
Actually that gun was probably purchased for hunting reasons I would imagine. Damn near every male that I went to high school with hunted.
MMaRsu
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Slayven said:
Well that is certainly a big problem as well. I'm not saying I have all the answers, and I think guns will never get banned in the US ( which is dumb imo ). It is one of the few countries in the world where guns are legal, yet the deathtoll due to guns is much much higher than any other country I think.
I'm not saying everyone who owns a gun is a psycho murderer, but guns are tools used to kill people.
And r2D4, sure, let's just say it's a typical euro reaction :lol . Maybe we see things differently over here because we don't hunt, but we also have none of these incidents.
Hari Seldon
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Sol.. said:
Well the psychologist basically said that the kid was too fucked up to rehabilitate by the time he turned 21.
MMaRsu said:
Just about every kid I grew up with grew up with guns. They have fathers or uncles that hunt and shot guns and rifles are just about in every rural household. They all took gun safety classes as teenagers and hunted. Maybe that's weird but it's normal for a large part of the US.
Retrofluxed
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Cow Mengde
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Shanadeus said:
He's already a cold-blooded criminal psychopath at age 12. If you read the story, you'd know this kid did it and tried to hide the fact and get rid of evidence. We don't need another 15-20 years to turn him into one.
PumpkinPie
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Good old USA.
a shotgun blast to the head doesnt sound too good neither. Lock this kid forever. The father has already suffered enough by having his own kid shoot his pregnant girlfriend in cold blood._dementia said:
This was not a 'holy shit the shotgun randomly went off as I was cleaning it' case.
This was not a 'WHAT YOU TOOK MY NINTENDO AWAYT?! UFCK YOU' case.
This was a kid, gragging a gun, and EXECUTING another person (+killing unborn) while she was sleeping
John Dunbar
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Aren't all felons supposed to love kids, based on what everyone says what happens to pedophiles in prison? This kid could be a king.
Dabookerman
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R2D4 said:
Maybe, but least we got a lot less murders and people getting shot in the face happening.
MMaRsu said:
You also have to keep in mind there are a lot of factors at play here, such as that the majority of deaths related to guns are suicides. Those people are going to kill themselves regardless. It's coming up on 1 year since one of my good friends committed suicide that way (2 days.. ugh). In his case, he's tried 2 different ways previously, and unfortunately that time it worked..
Also, I'd hazard a guess that the majority of drug related gun crimes are using guns that are not obtained legally, and that most gun crimes are drug or alcohol related. So you have to keep that in mind too, that those crimes are still likely going to take place were guns outlawed for law abiding citizens. The difference is that those self defense cases where a law abiding citizen defends themself against a criminal who has an illegal firearm will no longer have a gun to defend himself.
Lock him up and throw away the key,and i can't believe people are stupid enough to think banning guns will change things like this from happening, you can get a gun anywhere, im guessing most criminals don't own firearms legally anyways. As long as there are dumb,stupid and ignorant human beings on earth stuff like this will happen everyday period.
SouthernDragon
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Death penalty, I'd say. This kid is beyond help.
Jex
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R2D4 said:
Well, typical USA reaction to 'euro' reaction? I don't think all of europe thinks in the same way, or all of America either.
R2D4 said:
Isn't it crazy how no-one here feels bad about lacking weapons? When you put a lock on your door I don't have the feedom to take get into your house, doesn't mean I should have had the freedom in the first place.
As with all these cases of children committing horrible crimes, their parents or legal guardians should be convicted of the same crime, maybe then these sort of parents will feel more responsibility for their off-springs' actions, if only for their own selfishness.
I don't think a child of 12 should be placed in an adult prison, but there's no way at 12, or even 10 or 8, that they should not know the difference between right and wrong.
I don't think a child of 12 should be placed in an adult prison, but there's no way at 12, or even 10 or 8, that they should not know the difference between right and wrong.
It's not fair to ban guns for the other 60+ million people that responsibly own guns. That doesn't mean I think every gun should be legal and everybody should have access to them, but it's a misnomer to hold up this as evidence of America "out of control" with it's gun culture.
This kid was in a rural area (I'm guessing, by his location) and did a premeditated act. If it wasn't a gun, he would have used a knife, poison, arson or any other number of ways to kill a human being.
This kid was in a rural area (I'm guessing, by his location) and did a premeditated act. If it wasn't a gun, he would have used a knife, poison, arson or any other number of ways to kill a human being.
Peronthious
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I don't see how this isn't an argument against tossing him in the adult system. If a 12 year old boy shoots someone in the face, even if he knows full well that it's going to be a fatal blow, afterward he's probably really freaked out. It's no wonder he's not accepting responsibility.
Cow Mengde
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This is the full story for anyone that didn't click on the link.
Dabookerman
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R2D4 said:
I cry myself to sleep because I can't stroke my shotgun everynight in bed.
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