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Media Create Sales 11/12 - 11/18 2007
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JoshuaJSlone
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If it wants to keep matching "#1 console" trends, yeah. Though pushing that same comparison out a few more weeks, even PS2 had a lot of variation in its big years; matching 2002 PS2 wouldn't be nearly as difficult (or impressive) as matching 2001 PS2.schuelma said:
Crusade said:I've disturbed the hive. Obviously I can't talk about Sony doing well, even when they are doing well when it comes to Media-Create threads?
You are doing something very wrong when spwolf's posts are more sensible than yours.
Ruud_Luiten
Member
PSP is selling too much compared to the softwaresales on the platform.
Weird situation for softwaredevelopers. Huge userbase, but nobody buys games for it (only the expensive big-budget games like FF and MH).
Should a developer put effort in the PSP or not??
Weird situation for softwaredevelopers. Huge userbase, but nobody buys games for it (only the expensive big-budget games like FF and MH).
Should a developer put effort in the PSP or not??
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
Ruud_Luiten said:
Yes, it should. Not as into the DS, but definitely PSP is a big opportunity for developers now in Japan.
But there is a big risk: PSP software sales have little correlation with hardware. I'm the first that don't understand these absurd PSP sales with only 4-5 games in the top 30.
Any week where DS returns to outselling all three home consoles is just fine by me.
On a separate note, maybe I missed it while skimming five pages, but how are those DQIV first week numbers in relation to the first weeks of other DQ remakes? I'd like to be able to say "Excellent numbers for a remake of an excellent game," but without any real context I can't quite do it.
On a separate note, maybe I missed it while skimming five pages, but how are those DQIV first week numbers in relation to the first weeks of other DQ remakes? I'd like to be able to say "Excellent numbers for a remake of an excellent game," but without any real context I can't quite do it.
Mithos Yggdrasill said:
Just two weeks ago, Castelvania on PSP did well (for CV standards). Also there weren't that many highlights released recently, since most developers have jumped the DS train when the PSP was trailing way behind DS in weekly sales. This may change in the mid-future. I don't think the last word is spoken, PSP is a future-proof machine that can still be improved in every regard.
Mithos Yggdrasill
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Lobster said:
That is almost ineffective in NA. Why ?
Kurosaki Ichigo
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ksamedi is right of course, PSP sold 90k units and Air was released, hence Air should have sold 90k x 5 (each customer must buy 5 games per system), thus 450k.
But you know, this is Famitsu, they are undertracking Air by 443k, MC will have Air at 450k, just you wait. As in wait for the real data, not false data from that magazine with awesome reviews!
But you know, this is Famitsu, they are undertracking Air by 443k, MC will have Air at 450k, just you wait. As in wait for the real data, not false data from that magazine with awesome reviews!
Version 3.0
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diddlyD said:
What are they being accidentally tracked as in the US? PSP games not selling is a worldwide phenomenon.
I do think existing PSP owners are grabbing the new model. I did, and so did my friend, but we also buy games for it, so we're the odd men out.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Most of the people I know with PSPs really love them when they first buy them, but quickly switch back to their iPod for photos, videos and music, get fed up with the web browser and either use their laptops or nothing at all, and buy games only occasionally. I think when people trot out the "YARR PSP SELLS GAMES DON'T MUST BE PIRATES", they're ignoring that Sony's convergence strategy is not a total failure; many people who buy PSPs do not do so for the games, pirated or not.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
ksamedi said:
Well, even discarding my anecdotal data--look at Sony's North America advertising. Goofy indie rockers dancing around and showing road trip pictures to each other. That's what the PSP's image is to a lot of people. An iPod-style media device.
Look at the box, even. You see the PSP with the cross media bar--photos, music, and videos are all more visible than games. Actually, I have no idea what the PSP slim box looks like, so it might be different, but certainly my early PSP the packaging sold it as a media device rather than a gaming system.
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
Stumpokapow said:
So, the next thing to say is that PSP is not a true videogames handheld system, but only an hybrid.
BishopLamont
Banned
You guys are failing to see his point. The PSP is marketed in much the same way as the PS3, media first, games second. That's the problem.
JoshuaJSlone
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So here's a different way of looking at PSP software sales. I first took the DS and PSP percents from Famitsu's software pie data. Then I created a "Pseudo-PSP" out of DS's data, projecting what DS's percent might've been, adjusted to having the same hardware numbers as PSP at that time.
Looking at the result, PSP actual does beat Pseudo-PSP for about the first 17 weeks. From then on, very rarely. In the last year, Pseudo-PSP is frequently double or triple PSP actual. Whatever the reason, PSP is just not a machine big on software.
Looking at the result, PSP actual does beat Pseudo-PSP for about the first 17 weeks. From then on, very rarely. In the last year, Pseudo-PSP is frequently double or triple PSP actual. Whatever the reason, PSP is just not a machine big on software.
I wish we had a chance to find out how the regular ones would do. PSP has just had its fourth (?) announced, Xbox and X360 get multiplatform releases of most PlayStation versions, while Wii has had Samurai Warriors Wave.ksamedi said:
Well, I know all 6 million of them didn't upgrade on the first week.iidesuyo said:
BishopLamont
Banned
Lightning said:
Yes but for the past year the PS3 is seen as the "Blu-Ray player". Will it get rid of this stigma? One can only hope.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Grecco said:
I'm saying a lot of people are buying the PSP for its convergence uses... and then after discovering that they aren't that fantastic (they aren't awful either, for sure) they stop using them for that.
I'm saying that looking at the PSP's hardware base and saying "Here are <x> million people who should be buying games but aren't. Why not? PIRACY!" might be a little bit misguided because it ignores the fact that above and beyond the usual bums who buy the system and then barely use it, there are a ton of people who aren't buying this system for the games to begin with.
Lightning said:
I also think that the PS3 is a better media device for its niche than the PSP is for its. Whereas I believe the iPod is categorically superior to the PSP in terms of its media uses at a similar pricepoint (PSP ~= iPod Nano price. PSP + Good memory stick ~= iPod price. Approximation, I know), I can't think of many home entertainment products that are better than the PSP.
If you want to get much better, you'd have to build a Media Center PC which would be in the $1000+ range varying largely on whether or not you want to use it to rip stuff or just play stuff and whether or not you have pre-existing storage solutions. If you wanted Blu-Ray / HD-DVD, you'd have to pony up for the $200+ drives. The PS3 is a GREAT value proposition as a media player.
JoshuaJSlone
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So I did the same thing with Wii and PS3 as I did with DS and PSP. Depending on how you look at it, things are either up for Wii or down for PS3. For most of the first half year or so even adjusted Pseudo-PS3 was beating PS3 actual handily, but over the last few months they've stayed pretty even, so the userbases seem to be equally active lately.
You can see PS3 spikes at the end there, since the latest software pie data we have is for the week including the 40 GB introduction; probably the new few will be PS3-strong as well.
You can see PS3 spikes at the end there, since the latest software pie data we have is for the week including the 40 GB introduction; probably the new few will be PS3-strong as well.
Beats me. Is that the Capcom one that has no chance of localization?Busaiku said:
BishopLamont said:
Well PSP hasnt been marketed as a media machine for months. Its been marketed as a game machine probably since December last year. I dont buy the whole Blame Marketing thing. When it comes to PS3, blame sony for trojan horsing Blue ray in the first place.
Stumpokapow said:
If people bought it for media then stoped using it, i would think they would at least buy games to make use of the investment no? Piracy is so easy on the PSP, that its pretty obious its a big part as to why its software sales are so mediocre. Imagine if the media was solid state and didnt need memory sticks? PSP software would be doing so much better.
mckmas8808
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BishopLamont said:
I really really hope so.