Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
So has Segata Sanshiro already been confirmed to be in?
This will decide whether I buy the game or not.
This will decide whether I buy the game or not.
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brain_stew
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Ludi said:
Eh, I'll be buying the PC version. You can have your googly eyed monstrosity, I'll take the 60fps gameplay, thankyou.
Ben2749 said:
You're logic as to why the inclusion of Banjo is OK, places Banjo and Sonic on a level playing feel as to the worth of the character, think about that for one second. You're inferring Banjo and Sonic are equals, really now.
Nexus Zero
Member
Wrath2X said:
Well now I feel like I've kicked a puppy. I don't actually think you're retarded, but like Ben said, slightly more politely, the outrage over this is mental! Agh sorry not 'mental' I meant crazy! Aggh
Shotgun Kiss
Member
brain_stew said:
Yikes, so you really do just have horrible double standards. Just because you don't like Banjo doesn't mean there aren't plenty of people who don't love him. And if you're talking about their influence and recognizability, remember that this game has other characters besides Sonic, most of whom are relatively low-key compared to the Brawl roster. How many people are familiar with the zombie characters from House of the Dead? Hell, just how many people are going to be familiar with Ryo, Ulala, and BD? Sonic's appearance in Brawl was fine because he was just as iconic as most of the cast. Similarly, Banjo is just as iconic as most of the cast here.
Oh, and as mentioned above, Banjo's recent track record has been a lot better than Sonic's. He may have only had one new game in the last ten years, and while it wasn't to everybody's taste, it was still a brilliantly designed game with plenty of innovation. Also, a lot of people have replayed through the brilliant first two Banjo games (or even played them for the first time) on XBLA recently. Compare that to the countless crappy Sonic games we've seen over the past few years, and looking down on Banjo as being not good enough to co-star with Sonic starts to seem absurd. The only reason people (myself included) still hold Sonic in high regard is because of the older games.
Damon Bennet
Member
This is really one of my most wanted games
Hot Coldman
Banned
Regulus Tera said:
If this is true... I don't know what I'd do but please let it be true
GotchaForce
Member
The perfect place for Segata Sanshiro would be in VF6. He could be the Gouken equivalent: Akira's master.
Shotgun Kiss
Member
S0L said earlier in this thread not to hold out hope for Segata Sanshiro.
Besides, don't we now know the full roster? Hopefully not, but I was under the impression the last few characters had been leaked a few days ago.
At the moment, it's certainly mine. And that's saying a lot, considering there are a lot of games I'm currently looking forward to in the next few months. But I'm an absolute sucker for franchise crossover games, and this is pretty similar to Brawl in regards to speculation, fanservice, and anticipation. I'm particularly looking forward to knowing what the final soundtrack will be, as the one for Sega Superstar Tennis was awesome, and based on what we've heard so far, the tracks will be a bit more diverse this time round (isn't "Can You Feel the Sunshine?" from Sonic R confirmed to be in it?).
Besides, don't we now know the full roster? Hopefully not, but I was under the impression the last few characters had been leaked a few days ago.
Damon Bennet said:
At the moment, it's certainly mine. And that's saying a lot, considering there are a lot of games I'm currently looking forward to in the next few months. But I'm an absolute sucker for franchise crossover games, and this is pretty similar to Brawl in regards to speculation, fanservice, and anticipation. I'm particularly looking forward to knowing what the final soundtrack will be, as the one for Sega Superstar Tennis was awesome, and based on what we've heard so far, the tracks will be a bit more diverse this time round (isn't "Can You Feel the Sunshine?" from Sonic R confirmed to be in it?).
Alain-Christian
Neo Member
I'm not too opposed to this game. I played a lot of Sonic R on the Saturn. God I love the music. And the music is redbook!
NinMicroSega
Banned
Here's a recap of the final roster (because it seems like nobody has posted it yet):
From Sonic the Hedgehog:
* Sonic the Hedgehog
* Miles "Tails" Prower
* Knuckles the Echidna
* Doctor Eggman
* Amy Rose
* Shadow the Hedgehog
* Big the Cat
From other Sega properties:
* AiAi from Super Monkey Ball
* Amigo from Samba de Amigo
* Ryo Hazuki from Shenmue
* Beat from Jet Set Radio
* Alex Kidd from the Alex Kidd series
* Billy Hatcher from Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg
* Zobio and Zobiko, the zombie couple from The House of the Dead EX
* Ulala from Space Channel 5
* B.D. Joe from Crazy Taxi
* Jacky Bryant with Akira Yuki from the Virtua Fighter series
* Bonanza Bros.
* ChuChu Rocket
* Opa-Opa from Fantasy Zone
Console-exclusives:
* Banjo-Kazooie (Xbox 360)
* Avatars (Xbox 360)
* Miis (Wii)
From Sonic the Hedgehog:
* Sonic the Hedgehog
* Miles "Tails" Prower
* Knuckles the Echidna
* Doctor Eggman
* Amy Rose
* Shadow the Hedgehog
* Big the Cat
From other Sega properties:
* AiAi from Super Monkey Ball
* Amigo from Samba de Amigo
* Ryo Hazuki from Shenmue
* Beat from Jet Set Radio
* Alex Kidd from the Alex Kidd series
* Billy Hatcher from Billy Hatcher and the Giant Egg
* Zobio and Zobiko, the zombie couple from The House of the Dead EX
* Ulala from Space Channel 5
* B.D. Joe from Crazy Taxi
* Jacky Bryant with Akira Yuki from the Virtua Fighter series
* Bonanza Bros.
* ChuChu Rocket
* Opa-Opa from Fantasy Zone
Console-exclusives:
* Banjo-Kazooie (Xbox 360)
* Avatars (Xbox 360)
* Miis (Wii)
Shotgun Kiss
Member
A solid roster. There are plenty of other characters I'd still happily welcome, sure, but they'd be bonuses. Newcomers Ryo, Billy Hatcher, Chu Chu Rocket, and Banjo & Kazooie are more than enough to keep me happy.
Presuming that we do get DLC characters though, my top picks would be:
Alberto (I'm assuming that Sega can't use Ferraris in this, but surely they can think of a way to make it work; they used Ferrari lookalikes in early OutRun games)
Vyse, from Skies of Arcadia
Gilius (I don't care for the Golden Axe games, but I liked him in SST)
Toejam & Earl
Axel, from Streets of Rage
I really hope we see tracks from some franchises that don't have any character representation, like in Sega Superstars Tennis. If only because I'll pitch a fit if there isn't an OutRun track. >:-( And I swear to God, Magical Sound Shower, Passing Breeze, and Splash Wave had better all be present.
Presuming that we do get DLC characters though, my top picks would be:
Alberto (I'm assuming that Sega can't use Ferraris in this, but surely they can think of a way to make it work; they used Ferrari lookalikes in early OutRun games)
Vyse, from Skies of Arcadia
Gilius (I don't care for the Golden Axe games, but I liked him in SST)
Toejam & Earl
Axel, from Streets of Rage
I really hope we see tracks from some franchises that don't have any character representation, like in Sega Superstars Tennis. If only because I'll pitch a fit if there isn't an OutRun track. >:-( And I swear to God, Magical Sound Shower, Passing Breeze, and Splash Wave had better all be present.
A Huge Battleship
Member
Impressive roster indeed. Would've liked to see Toejam & Earl, NiGHTS and maybe Pepper from Clockwork Knight, but I guess you can't have everything.
GrayFoxPL
Member
I had no interest in it, but Star Wars in Soul Calibur or Master Chieffette in Doa made me twitch.
I don't know how I could prove that I have nothing against bonus content for 360, but look at it this way:
What if this wasn't a game but an art book. "Sega All Stars Artbook" - honestly, how many of you would want it if it had "+ Banjo bonus!" slapped on the cover? How many of you purrists, and I know we have some crazy anal purists here, wouldn't go batshit and throw "FFFFFFF" all the way?
If the exclusive was something like Nights then fuck yeah. Smart move. For me Banjo can't be anything more then result of a phone from some marketing "genius" at Ms. But that's just me.
Akibastman
Member
Ben2749 said:
Maybe can we expect a Sega Saturn DLC Pack ?
With Nights, Segata Sanshiro, a Dragon, ...
I'm sure that a lot of people who wrote in this thread would buy it.
Shotgun Kiss
Member
Legendary said:
Fuck, I thought I head somewhere it was the 10th. Oh well. There's plenty of other games coming out in February to tide me over. It's just that this is my most anticipated.
I forgot to include Segata Sanshiro in my above list of wanted DLC characters. If Sumo Digital could manage to get the rights to use him, I'd happily take him over all of the characters above put together.
gutter_trash
Banned
I would have paired up Jacky with sister Sarah instead of Akira;
oh well
oh well
sixteen-bit
Member
Wait VF has a plot?Gagaman said:
I thought the "story" in VF was you play the role of an arcade denizen in Japan and travel around and beat everyone in a video game. The characters are just plotless vehicles you just choose to play with.
I had no idea.
I kinda liked what I was believing before. More fighting games need to ease off the seriousness of their storylines.twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
Jacky kinda makes sense, since his profession is supposed to be an Indy car racer.
Then again, nobody plays Virtua Fighter for the story.
Then again, nobody plays Virtua Fighter for the story.
NinMicroSega
Banned
Blueblur1 said:
Phantasy Star is acknowledged. Phantasy Star games are still being made, whether it be Online, Universe, you name it. I can't even keep track of how many there are. Give the lesser-known series a shot, k?
By the way, here is BJ's So Much More uploaded by a rabid Shadow fan for your convenience:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CC2nxp8txA
brain_stew
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Honestly, for all the bitching I find it hard to be disapointed with a lineup that includes Opa, Opa, the Bonanza Bros. and B.D. Joe, I mean those first two picks are completely irrelevant these days but Sumo still threw them in to give us old SEGA fans a kick.
Shotgun Kiss
Member
I just read the article for myself that leaked the most recent bunch of characters, but how do we actually know there aren't more? People are talking as if that's the final roster, but where did that assumption come from?
Also, do we know if all of these known characters are available right off the bat, or are some unlockables?
Also, do we know if all of these known characters are available right off the bat, or are some unlockables?
Shotgun Kiss
Member
Ah, OK. Shame.
Segata for DLC!
Segata for DLC!
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
It's really Shadow the werecar. A racing kart with attitude.SilverLunar said:
NinMicroSega
Banned
A better question would be is: Why the fuck is Shadow on a motorcycle?
Diablohead
Member
Spoofing his own shitty game where he drove his bike and other vehicles while using guns.NinMicroSega said:
Shotgun Kiss
Member
An even better question would be: Why is Shadow in this game (or Sega Superstars Tennis) at all? Seriously, nobody whose opinion matters likes him, as he's the embodiment of what is wrong with recent Sonic games. I'd rather see a member of Chaotix or E-102 (if E-102 were a character, it would also mean that the entire cast of Sonic Adventure would be playable).
NinMicroSega
Banned
Diablohead said:
I know that. I only posted that as a response to the idiots who ask that same damn question over and over. They don't realize how stupid that question is.
EDIT: And yes, Shadow wasted a very valuable spot that could have been used for another character. Too bad Sumo said they had to appeal to the new crowd more than the old, but we still got some good ones. So no complaining, please.
Diablohead
Member
:lol ah sorry I just saw your post and gave an answer without reading back any.NinMicroSega said:
NinMicroSega
Banned
McBradders
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Ben2749 said:
Please tell me whose opinion matters, because I would sure like to be enlightened.
NinMicroSega
Banned
McBradders said:
Apparently, the ones whose opinions actually mattered got owned by SEGA Europe's AAUK.
Shotgun Kiss
Member
You'd think I had slandered your mothers the way some of you are reacting. Of course I don't sincerely believe that every single person who likes Shadow is irrelevant and uninformed, and of course he has an audience here; I was just voicing my own hate for the character. If there are any genuine Shadow fans here, then I apologize if I offended you, but I wasn't aware the Political Correctness Police were on patrol. Relax.
I do think that's unbelievably cheeky though. When games like Shadow the Hedgehog (a blatant attempt at appealing to the "extreme gangster" crowd) and Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 (a horrible and broken unfinished mess) exist, Sonic Team cannot argue that they haven't changed the way they do things, or their target audience. The problem most people have with Sonic games isn't that the presentation is "kiddy"; it's that Sonic Team exploits the fact that their fanbase largely consists of kids in order to release less than stellar games. After all, why spend time and money making AAA games, when you can instead release a lesser game more often, that will each make roughly the same amount?
NinMicroSega said:
I do think that's unbelievably cheeky though. When games like Shadow the Hedgehog (a blatant attempt at appealing to the "extreme gangster" crowd) and Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 (a horrible and broken unfinished mess) exist, Sonic Team cannot argue that they haven't changed the way they do things, or their target audience. The problem most people have with Sonic games isn't that the presentation is "kiddy"; it's that Sonic Team exploits the fact that their fanbase largely consists of kids in order to release less than stellar games. After all, why spend time and money making AAA games, when you can instead release a lesser game more often, that will each make roughly the same amount?
Man, he looks so much better than he did in Superstar Tennis
AHH GET IT AWAY :lol
Edit: He does still look kind of weird though. His clothes now look like he's wearing a yellow jumpsuit with the red Velcro'd onto his body. Looking back at old games and artwork he always had blue shoes until Enchanted Castle as well.
Diablohead
Member
Big improvement on Alex Kidd, it's like him pre ugly stick bashing.
Shotgun Kiss
Member
I never saw why people complained about Alex Kidd's appearance in SST, but comparing both of them directly, I have to agree that the S&SASR model looks a lot better.
paranoidjoe
Neo Member
Will this be cheaper on ps3 since it isnt getting an extra character.I still wished the added Ratchet though.