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Red Arremer · May 8, 2015

Yeah, Castlevania has been building on folklore, classical literature/film and pop culture ever since the first game. Heck the first game was supposed to be a riff on horror movies, which is why you have the little film roll holes in the cutscenes.

Furthermore, a lot of the characters' names are based on real people or literature and film. They only won't be able to directly use characters created for and used by Konami's games (e.g. "Sypha Belnades" or "Shanoa"), or the name "Belmont". They still could do Alucard though, and even give him a silver-haired black/gold-armored design.

There's nothing Konami could do to stop a horror-themed platformer.

Foffy · May 8, 2015

BY2K said:
The one thing I'm scared of is that if it does turn out to be a Castlevania/IGAvania in everything but name (say, about as much as Mighty No.9 is a Mega Man game), that Konami would be scummy enough to try and take it down.

We've literally had two Fire Emblem clones made by the original creator of Fire Emblem. If that can pass, so can this.

Dr. Buni · May 8, 2015

Red Arremer said:
There's nothing Konami could do to stop a horror-themed platformer.

You mean horror-themed action side scroller. The platforming in Castlevania is minimal, especially in the Igavanias. They are hardly paltformers.

Red Arremer · May 8, 2015

Reila said:
You mean horror-themed action side scroller. The platforming in Castlevania is minimal, especially in the Igavanias. They are hardly paltformers.

Let's not turn this into a genre nitpicker discussion, especially since we don't even know how exactly this game is going to be like.

Kaldea · May 8, 2015

New whip user Shanoa please.

PensivePen · May 8, 2015

Foffy said:
We've literally had two Fire Emblem clones made by the original creator of Fire Emblem. If that can pass, so can this.

Didn't one of these result in a hefty lawsuit.

Shy · May 8, 2015

val.nor said:
Iga on monday:

Me on Monday.

Kirie · May 8, 2015

Kaldea said:
New whip user Shanoa please.

I can't wait to see her design

(if the rumors of Not!Shanoa are true of course, which is looking a bit more likely after that quote today)

Ainaurdur · May 8, 2015

Not sure if anyone else pasted this new one yet or not, but I love it:

"What good is choosing a weapon when I choose the hand that holds it?"

@MUWANdo · May 8, 2015

Foffy said:
We've literally had two Fire Emblem clones made by the original creator of Fire Emblem. If that can pass, so can this.

Nintendo sued Kaga to within an inch of his life, though, and his game only "passed" in the sense that they merely forced him to substantially change it and pay Nintendo a six-figure fee rather than cancel it altogether and pay a seven-figure fee.

Foffy · May 8, 2015

@MUWANdo said:
Nintendo sued Kaga to within an inch of his life, though, and his game only "passed" in the sense that they merely forced him to substantially change it and pay Nintendo a six-figure fee rather than cancel it altogether and pay a seven-figure fee.

O-oh. Well, lets hope Konami doesn't have a hateful grudge against former employees.

Then again, they surely would have done something with the teaser page, no?

Finale Fireworker · May 8, 2015

@MUWANdo said:
Nintendo sued Kaga to within an inch of his life, though, and his game only "passed" in the sense that they merely forced him to substantially change it and pay Nintendo a six-figure fee rather than cancel it altogether and pay a seven-figure fee.

What game was this? This is is so interesting.

PensivePen · May 8, 2015

Finale Fireworker said:
What game was this? This is is so interesting.

Tear Ring Saga

@MUWANdo · May 8, 2015

Finale Fireworker said:
What game was this? This is is so interesting.

Tear Ring Saga for PSX, developed by former IntSys man Shouzou Kaga and published by Enterbrain. The game was originally titled "Emblem Saga" and a lot of the characters, names, etc were near-identical to FE characters/trademarks, and when Kaga did interviews for the game he basically said "this game takes place in the same universe as FE and the characters, locations, etc are all the same, even if the names are different."

Seven Force · May 8, 2015

Foffy said:
O-oh. Well, lets hope Konami doesn't have a hateful grudge against former employees.

Well, we've seen what they do to employees still technically contracted by them (Kojima). After that nonsense, Konami strikes me as just the type of petty company to actually take some sort of action.

Hopefully not, though.

ShockingAlberto · May 8, 2015

Kirie said:
I can't wait to see her design (if the rumors of Not!Shanoa are true of course, which is looking a bit more likely after that quote today)

I haven't been keeping up, what are the rumors and what's been pointing toward them?

@MUWANdo · May 8, 2015

ShockingAlberto said:
I haven't been keeping up, what are the rumors and what's been pointing toward them?

Just a 4ch post from before the teaser:

"It's real. Game is going to be called Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night. Kickstarter goes live May 11th. Main character is NotShanoa named Miriam. She has rune tattoos on her body. NotAlucard will be named Gebel.

Screen cap this."

Zuhzuhzombie!! · May 8, 2015

Foffy said:
We've literally had two Fire Emblem clones made by the original creator of Fire Emblem. If that can pass, so can this.

Which?

Is that Frenchy one from Level 5 one of them?

Foffy · May 8, 2015

ShockingAlberto said:
I haven't been keeping up, what are the rumors and what's been pointing toward them?

Someone on /v/ claimed to have the name of the game and its two protagonists named. It's a big fat rumor, but the person tried coming off as the user PORTRAITofRUIN, and if any Castlevania fan remembers that person, she leaked a lot of stuff.

I still take it with a huge grain of salt. There's no way to back it up like the IGAVANIA = Quarterwomann connection.

Zuhzuhzombie!! said:
Which?

Is that Frenchy one from Level 5 one of them?

Tear Ring Saga and Berwick Saga.

Kirie · May 8, 2015

ShockingAlberto said:
I haven't been keeping up, what are the rumors and what's been pointing toward them?

In addition to what @MUWANdo said there was also: "I'd post a pic but I'd get fired so fast. She has blue roses on her legs, shoulder length black hair and a stained glass sword."

But like Foffy says, best to take it with a very large grain of salt at the moment

Ainaurdur · May 8, 2015

It flashed up so quickly on the site and then disappeared before I could even highlight the text to try to copy, but he said something roughly about "the 11th, I suppose you can watch."

Also just now:

"We are meeting in the New World. An army of Igavania players and developers."

Edit, caught the quote I mentioned above:
"Monday morning, 11. I suppose you can watch."

Ryan7556 · May 8, 2015

Ainaurdur said:
Also just now:

"We are meeting in the New World. An army of Igavania players and developers."

I saw that one too. Does it seem to be putting out some unique messages per time or day?

InfiniDragon · May 8, 2015

Red Arremer said:
Yeah, Castlevania has been building on folklore, classical literature/film and pop culture ever since the first game. Heck the first game was supposed to be a riff on horror movies, which is why you have the little film roll holes in the cutscenes.

Furthermore, a lot of the characters' names are based on real people or literature and film. They only won't be able to directly use characters created for and used by Konami's games (e.g. "Sypha Belnades" or "Shanoa"), or the name "Belmont". They still could do Alucard though, and even give him a silver-haired black/gold-armored design.

There's nothing Konami could do to stop a horror-themed platformer.

Quite frankly I don't want a bootleg Alucard in this new IP, because I'll always compare him or her to Adrian Tepes (CV Alucard) and he's one of my favorite game characters.

Just make someone who is like him in ways, and give him/her a good design and I'm happy.

Zuhzuhzombie!! · May 8, 2015

Foffy said:
Someone on /v/ claimed to have the name of the game and its two protagonists named. It's a big fat rumor, but the person tried coming off as the user PORTRAITofRUIN, and if any Castlevania fan remembers that person, she leaked a lot of stuff.

I still take it with a huge grain of salt. There's no way to back it up like the IGAVANIA = Quarterwomann connection.

Tear Ring Saga and Berwick Saga.

There's no way that the guys who made Jeanne d'Arc didn't go "Let's make a Fire Emblem clone".

"I admit I am impressed by your skill. Careful you don’t back-dash right into my trap."

"Be greedy with the moonlight now. It could be some time before you drink of it again."

~Kinggi~ · May 8, 2015

Yeah its confirming Monday the 11th

Kirie · May 8, 2015

Ainaurdur said:
It flashed up so quickly on the site and then disappeared before I could even highlight the text to try to copy, but he said something roughly about "the 11th, I suppose you can watch."

Also just now:

"We are meeting in the New World. An army of Igavania players and developers."

Edit, caught the quote I mentioned above:
"Monday morning, 11. I suppose you can watch."

I just got these as well! Though that first one disappeared super quickly for me, so I'm glad you guys were able to copy it down.

Monday morning guys and gals

it's happening!

Foffy · May 8, 2015

Monday morning? Awh yeh.

I'm imagining 12 PM EST the earliest.

Seishin · May 8, 2015

Soon.

Can't wait to see what it's like.

BassForever · May 8, 2015

So hyped for this surprisingly more hyped then I've been for any other revival on kickstarter announced so far

TreIII · May 8, 2015

"We will enter the stream with nothing. We will leave it with the future."

2345425 · May 8, 2015

"We will enter the stream with nothing. We will leave it with the future."

edit: ugh, beaten

Voliko · May 8, 2015

Can't wait to backdash through the whole game.

BY2K · May 8, 2015

It's happening, isn't it?

Ben Morales · May 8, 2015

I'm loving this so much! Did any of y'all play Harmony of Dissonance? It was pretty much 100% loot hunting/co-op but I spent hundreds of hours playing that game and hunting for loot. It helped ease the pain a little of not having a Igavania for so long.

Maedhros · May 8, 2015

Hell yeah!

A new Metroidvania by IGA! I'm so happy!!!!11 T_T

@MUWANdo · May 8, 2015

Ben Morales said:
I'm loving this so much! Did any of y'all play Harmony of Dissonance? It was pretty much 100% loot hunting/co-op but I spent hundreds of hours playing that game and hunting for loot. It helped ease the pain a little of not having a Igavania for so long.

You mean Harmoney of Despair, right?

Finale Fireworker · May 8, 2015

Voliko said:
Can't wait to backdash through the whole game.

So this. I love games with alternative movement options that, while unconventional, are faster than normal pace. It's really only old games that do this, since it can easily be seen as bad game design, but I run backwards through the entirety of Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask. Playing SotN for the first time invoked very little forward movement at all.

brandonh83 · May 8, 2015

It'd be a little mean to hype up this game with the Castlevania aesthetic and flat out drop the term "Igavania" and it not be Castlevania, but I'm excited nonetheless.

Foffy · May 8, 2015

BY2K said:
It's happening, isn't it?

Oh yes. And this song is awfully fitting, considering the situation and hype.

Ben Morales · May 8, 2015

@MUWANdo said:
You mean Harmoney of Despair, right?

Oh jeez! Yes, I always do that.

Game Guru · May 8, 2015

PensivePen said:
Didn't one of these result in a hefty lawsuit.

One which Nintendo lost as far as copyright infringement was concerned. Yes, there was a hefty lawsuit and a fine, but Tear Ring Saga was declared to not have been copyright infringement. It actually set legal precedent for spiritual successors of video games. As for the fine...

@MUWANdo said:
Tear Ring Saga for PSX, developed by former IntSys man Shouzou Kaga and published by Enterbrain. The game was originally titled "Emblem Saga" and a lot of the characters, names, etc were near-identical to FE characters/trademarks, and when Kaga did interviews for the game he basically said "this game takes place in the same universe as FE and the characters, locations, etc are all the same, even if the names are different."

It was because this sort of crap as well as having the Fire Emblem artist do the artwork for the game making the common consumer confused that it might be an actual Fire Emblem game. So long as IGA doesn't call it Castle Dracula or Transylvania and say it takes place in that particular universe, he should be fine.

Kumubou · May 8, 2015

I don't think this has come up yet? Hinting at a pre-KS launch stream?

Easy_D · May 8, 2015

Hinting at a stream with no footage of the game nonetheless :lol. They'll leave it with the future!

Reila said:
Oh man that intro. That music. Order of Ecclesia was pretty much a perfect game.

Hah, yeah. The main theme is amaaaazing. Who composed that main theme though? I know for the other two DS entries the guest composer made the main theme songs

Kansoku · May 8, 2015

Obviously he's talking about the stream of cash he will receive on Monay =P.

@MUWANdo · May 8, 2015

Easy_D said:
Hinting at a stream with no footage of the game nonetheless :lol. They'll leave it with the future!

"Nothing" is in reference to their budget, surely.

Easy_D · May 8, 2015

@MUWANdo said:
"Nothing" is in reference to their budget, surely.

That makes more sense and gets me hyped that we'll see actual footage. BRING ON MONDAY

The Bankslammer · May 8, 2015

Huh, Iga's suddenly decided to be much more overt, lol. If this is literally referencing a stream (which the "meeting" and "I suppose you can watch" kinda makes it sound like), I wonder what it'll contain. Maybe they'll show some concept footage or music or the like?

Whatever it is, exciting stuff.

Kansoku · May 8, 2015

Just got:

How can you protect the ones you love when the thing that threatens them is inside you?

Easy_D · May 8, 2015

I swear to god if IGA doesn't crack a whip in the Kickstarter video..!

Kansoku said:
Just got:

There have been talks of blood, and diseases..vampirism? Main character is bitten and has to kill the vamp to cure herself and on the way you gain cool vampire powers and cool alchemy stuff for weapons and magic glyphs?

It makes sense, you're a vampire hunter, how can you protect your friends from vampires if you have the vampire curse?

Needlecrash · May 8, 2015

Can't wait for it to be revealed.

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