ToyMachine228
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WhatRuOn said:
Let's not turn this thread into another melee discussion thread. We've had it over and over, and I hate it as much as everyone else, but let's keep this discussion about the new maps.
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Halo 3 Map Pack coming December 11
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Let's not turn this thread into another melee discussion thread. We've had it over and over, and I hate it as much as everyone else, but let's keep this discussion about the new maps.
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They cannot only hide it from us. They can put it back the way it was. And you're a hundred percent right, there is no "fix."WhatRuOn said:
Voltron64
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As much as I love Halo, I have to admit to be a bit disappointed with the price. $10 seems just a bit much for 3 maps. Standoff looks too good to pass up. I will have to buy this grudgingly and MS won't see the grudgingly part. They will see me as a happy customer that's willing to get ripped off. Sad but true.
Diablohead
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Only now do I notice they are going free in the spring, might as well wait then as I got other games I can play in the gap.
Blueblur1 said:
It's an honest question. Most Halo fans (okay, most Halo fans that I know) all agree that the single-player portion of the game really isn't all that special, and the reason for owning the game is local/online multiplayer.
I'm totally baffled by the idea that somebody would buy Halo 3 just for the single player campaign.
Drewsy said:
I think the game, as it currently is, has way too few maps. This first release really should have been free, because there's just way too much repetition of the same maps currently. Give us one free pack, then start trying to micro-transact us to death.
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I would absolutely have bought Halo 3 just for the single player campaign. It was amazingly fun; I've replayed the Ark and the Covenant probably dozens of times. And personally, I think the music and the story are fantastic.shidoshi said:
Never fear, friend! I'm sure they'll have a "Team Preview" playlist, and not incorporate the new maps into the rest of Matchmaking. That's what they did with Halo 2, at least.maynerd said:
You know, that's what I thought for a while, but as I played it more I noticed it more.Wizman23 said:
It's bothersome, it's annoying, but it's not ruining the game for me.
Anyways, the maps look interesting, though I want more pics. I'm taking a short break from Halo 3 to finish Bioshock, and I'm going to get some new games at the end of the month, so this will likely be trhe thing to reel me in again.
800 points is a bit steep, but it's ultimately about value, which means I'll have to make a judgement as to whether this is worth it to me. It isn't for most games, but I'll likely end up buying these.
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I'm a Colonel with my highest skill being a 46. I play. A lot.Wizman23 said:
I also see that for you, the melee represents 22% of your kills, followed by the AR at 21%. For me, the melee is 30% of my kills, followed by the AR at 17%. So you can see how this melee system would affect me more than you. I have a right to "constantly cry" about it. It's not "1 or 2" kills. And not only do I play more than you, but my K/D ratio is 1.25% - which is NOT good among pros, but it's much better than your K/D ratio of .96%. And many of my games are against 45+ players in Lone Wolves.
Regardless of which side you take on it, your post is quite derogatory towards people that aren't on your side of the fence, and to be honest it makes you sound pretty immature.
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I LOL'd.Cocopjojo said:
I like the way maps look. They seem to be pretty far along in development. Wonder if they would have offered these maps to me if I would have paid $10 for them up front at launch? I'll also put money on a Lockout remake coming in the Spring...any takers?
I would be worried about the melee if I played matchmaking, but fortunately I don't. BR-starts looks like they'll play good on at least two of those maps. I really like Jodrell Bank, the dusk/dawn lighting effect looks very tight. Hopefully these won't be 'pretty to look at but ugly to marry,' like Isolation and Epitaph are.
CajoleJuice
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I'm sure this has been brought up already...but are they going to force you to buy these maps like in Halo 2? SORRY CAN'T ENTER MATCHMAKING SINCE YOU DIDN'T PAY FOR OUR OVERPRICED MAP PACK!
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CajoleJuice said:
So you won't be affected at all if you don't buy them.
From the PR:X26 said:
OP needs updating.
CajoleJuice
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Thanks. I'm definitely waiting until they're free then.Cocopjojo said:
It's not like I'm playing Halo 3 anyway.
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Ignoring my entire post and picking out part of it to use completely out of context in order to avoid responding to any of my points?Wizman23 said:
Check.
professor_t
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If Bungie really had a problem with the pricing scheme, don't you think they could have convinced MS to change it?
Hell, Bungie was owned by MS and basically said, "Yeah, um, about this ownership thing. . . you're not actually going to own us anymore, thanks," but they have no say in the pricing of Halo content?
Hell, Bungie was owned by MS and basically said, "Yeah, um, about this ownership thing. . . you're not actually going to own us anymore, thanks," but they have no say in the pricing of Halo content?
GodfatherX
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seems over priced to me, might be tempted if it was 4 maps, and would be worth it if it were 5
Um, that wasn't the point of his post at ALL. :lolWizman23 said:
Some folks play a melee-heavy game, and the issue impacts them more than those who do not.
At any rate. I'm interested to see the inside of Rat's Nest, and in knowing just how flixible the placement of man cannons are on Standoff. I'd love to see more than two be placable, but even being able to place two of them will have a big impact on the flow of the map. And having the option to add shield doors is also a cool touch; I hope that's added to some of the existing maps.
Bungie said:
Oh great it gets better. Not only are they charging us for maps 2 months after launch when the original game only had 11 *new* maps but this one was originally supposed to be in the launch release as well!
Bungie has always in my experience been good to their fans, how can they be so blind to this malarkey
Maps look awesome. Day 1.
Uh, a lot of things were probably planned out for the release of Halo 3 that had to be cut due to time. You do eventually have to meet deadlines and ship a game.
Its nice that the maps will become free also. Are there any free Resistance maps?
deftangel said:Oh great it gets better. Not only are they charging us for maps 2 months after launch when the original game only had 11 *new* maps but this one was originally supposed to be in the launch release as well!
Bungie has always in my experience been good to their fans, how can they be so blind to this malarkey
Uh, a lot of things were probably planned out for the release of Halo 3 that had to be cut due to time. You do eventually have to meet deadlines and ship a game.
Its nice that the maps will become free also. Are there any free Resistance maps?
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:lolprofessor_t said:
Personally, I like to think they tried as much as possible to get a good price for us, but... I don't know for sure, obviously. And when you put it like that... :lol
Cocopjojo said:
Count me as in the "I don't get the big deal" camp.
It's different, it's not bad. The majority of my kills come from Melee at 22.71%. Interestingly, it's also my most common means of death, clocking in at 22.66%. Clearly, I am an in-close, melee gamer.
I can't say I prefer one method over the other, but I've never really been that frustrated by losing a melee encounter. It's fair IMO. Not everyone has the same ping so if the strikes come within the same window, why not? It takes just as much skill, timing and speed to fill the other guy with more bullets than it does to beat someone to the melee strike.
You know how the system works, so work it into your game. You shouldn't have been shot more going into it. It's not as if the game is impeding your ability to shoot the other guy. I've often been losing a firefight (by my estimation), dodged the obvious melee attempt while still shooting and ended up winning the encounter.
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I understand your point of view. If you want to talk about it in the Halo thread, I'd be happy to do it. I feel bad that I've already derailed this thread, so I don't really want to talk about it in here anymore.DD-11 said:
Thanks for the link. Standoff looks outstanding. Seems its best suited 4 vs. 4. I can see Social Slayer and Social Skirmish involved, though, too.
It doesn't seem like there isn't a new BTB map afterall, like we first thought. They aren't ranking BTB right away anyways, so I guess the point is moot. Hopefully next time around...
It doesn't seem like there isn't a new BTB map afterall, like we first thought. They aren't ranking BTB right away anyways, so I guess the point is moot. Hopefully next time around...
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I find it funny that my avatar has been posted more frequently in the past few weeks than at any time in the past 3-4 years I've had it off and on. GAF is definitely not getting more witty.
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$10 for 3 maps, are you kidding me? :lol
I bought every single Halo 2 map pack but this is pretty blatant nickel and diming by MS. The maps don't even look that great to be honest.
Will wait till Spring.
I bought every single Halo 2 map pack but this is pretty blatant nickel and diming by MS. The maps don't even look that great to be honest.
Will wait till Spring.
RubberJohnny
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Try being Europe based when the servers are stateside, you lose a load of kills.
On Halo 2 it was fine, Host Advantage would get you everytime, but if you stayed away from the host you were fine. In Halo 3, it's like everyone is the host.
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Cocopjojo said:
You're right, I can't know for certain . . . I just think it's a little unfair to attribute all of the responsibility to MS when it seems pretty obvious that Bungie doesn't have a problem calling their own shots (and getting away with it).
Cocopjojo said:
No, there are definitely two points of view on this. You've stated your opinion rationally and I get it. There are many things about H3 MP that bother me (too many grenades, no CTF or Slayer only hoppers, radar, too much jumping around to name a few), but I still love and play the game.
The new maps look great. $10 for 3 maps is a fine price--I'll just buy one less beer the next time I go out. Sure, I'd love to pay less, but if there's one thing I've learned is that GAF will complain about anything sold over XBL, regardless of the price.
The maps look great, I'm excited for the forge possibilities and I'm buying. Yes, yes, I'm part of the problem.
Benjamin1981
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They probably just want to make up for the money they missed with the Halo 3 retail disc. The most part of that money goes to MS. Now that they are independent they make more money off their content. Bungie being greedy confirmed
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Yeah, I don't think $10 is too bad, either. And Foundry definitely excites me the most. I wonder what the "very special secret object" Chris Barrett is referring to in Standoff.DD-11 said:
spermatic cord
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Any word of flame grenades in the new maps?
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DD-11 said:
THANK GOD someone agrees with me on the "too many grenades" part. My god, there is so much grenade spamming in this game it's not even funnny. And to think they went down from 4 to 2, but yet there's way more than I've seen in Halo 2.
Luckily grenades are extremely weak and you can charge back up to full health in only a few seconds, amirite!?Domino Theory said:
Pretty much how I feel about it. Ten dollars is way too much when I've already drastically scaled back my play in hopes of a melee change. Can't wait to pay ten dollars for Blood Gulch next year, eitherGhaleonEB said:
EnjoyIncubus
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$10? no thanks Bungie, I'll wait.
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I'm guessing Bungie has continued with their extortionist model that prevents you from playing any playlist with a new map in it unless you also have that map?
They could put the map pack up for 8000 points and it would still sell.
And as far as "fixing melee" is concerned, how about they remove the RANDOM 50 ft lunge that people do at times.
Edit: And upon reading the rest of the thread, seems they've changed their stance on map packs being required to play. Good for them.
They could put the map pack up for 8000 points and it would still sell.
And as far as "fixing melee" is concerned, how about they remove the RANDOM 50 ft lunge that people do at times.
Edit: And upon reading the rest of the thread, seems they've changed their stance on map packs being required to play. Good for them.