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NVIDIA Volta Unveiled (GV100 new GPU Architecture)
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LOL.
Yes, a lot of the "driver" for consumer graphics cards are optimizations for specific games, and such. This types of cards are focused on compute. Other workstation cards, like Nvidia Quadro or AMD FireGL, are very similar to their consumer gaming cards, but the driver will lack those same gaming specific optmizations. They support DirectX and Open GL of course, but you will get less performance on them than a gaming card, despite the specs being comparable.
I don't know about these volta deep learning cards though, but with Quadro cards you could driver hack them into believing they're a GeForce card (and visa versa on some models of geForce cards)
You're going to have to clarify what you're asking. The gaming card will generally be better at gaming than the business variant. Mostly due to clock speed and driver enhancements usually.
The business variant, especially in the case of Volta, will contain specialized units and better FP64 performance that's more suited to HPC and workstation oriented projects. Also the drivers for those cards are certified, better tested, and better optimized for business use cases.
Got It, so the gaming card Will do 15 tflops too? Thats Very incredible
icecold1983
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The 1080ti replacement will probably do more at stock clocks
Finaika
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Welcome to PC gaming.
CraigerGamer
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That 970 I intended to sell after upgrading last year is quickly going cost more to ship than the price I'll get for it huh?
Coming soon to the Free to a Good Home thread....
Coming soon to the Free to a Good Home thread....
Depends on AMD tbh, maybe.
I highly highly doubt this. Nvidia tested the market with overpriced founders edition cards and consumers ate them up. You'll also have to deal with OEMs jacking up prices due to consumer demand.
Competition from AMD might bring down prices some, but it's hard to believe AMD will be truly competitive at the high-end for a while. There's also the fact that Nvidia is effectively giving AMD room to charge more than they would normally too.
TakeItSlowDude
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These cards will be ahead of consoles (2080ti will be for sure, 2080 OCed should be), your 1080ti gets around 14Tflops if clocked to 2Ghz. I do think 15Tflop consoles will be possible. According to Anandtech that transition should give a 60% power reduction and a 70% area reduction. A Scorpio like machine could scale to around 15Tflops just using the density and power advantages of the node.
PeakPointMatrix
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How much better is this than the 1080ti? My peasant brain doesn't really compute all these numbers.
E-Cat
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16nm-->7nm is going to be the greatest litho process leap ever; even greater than 28nm-->16nm, which had a 50% area reduction. Power reduction was slightly more at 70% thanks to the introduction of FinFET, though.
ThatsMytrunks
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I've been holding off on a 1080 or 1080ti, and I'd be willing to dip on an 1100 series in 2018.
terencecah
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I still wouldn't expect a bigger jump than 10-15% from 1080ti to the next ti, or am I wrong to think that
Leafhopper
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JershJopstin
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Replace 'card' with 'piece of tech' and you have pretty solid advice in general. Hype trains are fun, but they're pointless if you never get off. The exception is generally with things that come one or twice a decade, such as brand new cpu archs (I couldn't fault people waiting for Ryzen even if Intel CPUs were just fine).
Leafhopper
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Agreed fully.
Probably not. Worst case scenario, I'm hoping a $200 2060 turns out to be a worthwhile upgrade from a 970. I assume it'll just outperform the 1070 and be great for 1080p.
D4rth Man7iz
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Looking forward to 1180 Ti or equivalent announcement. It's about time to upgrade from a 780.
GamingArena
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Actually Titan Xp with modest Overclock to 2ghz does over 15Tf so i' m expecting new Titan/Ti VOlta overclocked to 2ghz be over 20-22TF or even more
SpiceMelange
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expect 50%+
ethomaz
Banned
Depend on clock but new Titan will be based on GV102 that probably will have 5376 SPs.
1700Mhz = ~18.2TFs
1800Mhz = ~19.3TFs
1900Mhz = ~20.4TFs
2000Mhz = ~21.5TFs
Coulomb_Barrier
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There's more chance of Israel forming a military alliance with Iran.
I wish I had your patience. Kind of. Problem is that 780 isn't worth anything.
Spartancarver
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Pretty sure that's the price of the entire server farm lol
This isn't the consumer gamer level Volta.
Did they confirm they are skipping 11 series naming??
PLASTICA-MAN
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HBM2 and near 1 TB/s brandwidth? Finally.
I really hope the gaming ones will be HBM3 or HBM+ and reach 32GB VRAM.
I really hope the gaming ones will be HBM3 or HBM+ and reach 32GB VRAM.
bloodforge
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You guys do know 11 comes after 10?
Coulomb_Barrier
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Realistically:
2060 - $349
2070 - $459
2080 - $749
Titan V - $1400
2080 Ti - $799 (consider this will release several months after the 2080. The 1080 and 1080 Ti actually had the same $699 launch price)
2060 - $349
2070 - $459
2080 - $749
Titan V - $1400
2080 Ti - $799 (consider this will release several months after the 2080. The 1080 and 1080 Ti actually had the same $699 launch price)
I've learned my lesson. 2080Ti: $599
Pagusas
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It's going to be the 20xx series not the 11xx series.
Hip Hop
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People always expecting a big price jump, but time and time again it never happens.
Yep, in fact the opposite happens.
Reallink
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It's unlikely but not completely impossible, depends on the yields of the new 12nm node and AMD's competing offerings. The recent price drop and cheaper than expected Ti were reputedly due to the sales numbers not being where they wanted them, and based on Steam's HW survey, the much cheaper 1060 has cannibalized the overpriced 1070 (that has only started seeing gains as street prices have plummeted in recent months). Meanwhile the 970 just completely annihilated everything else in sales volume in it's day (including the 960). The first edition tax on the 1070 and ridiculous $450 street prices was absolutely a mistake, they would have easily done double the volume around $350.
FriskyrumX
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That's a good leather jacket. *clapping*
The 12nm node is just a refinement on existing 16FF+ so yields could be fairly good right off the bat.
the 970 was a dark era where the $200 GPU market was dead because bitcoin fucked AMD's gaming marketshare and the 970 was the best value card. You could see nvidia's smugness in real time as the pack-in games went from the fucking witcher 3 and MGSV to a ubisoft title
R10Neymarfan
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So wait this can run Kingsglaive in real time?
Give me dat FFXV with Kingsglaive fidelity and Gameworks pls
Give me dat FFXV with Kingsglaive fidelity and Gameworks pls
dr_rus
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I'm not a fan of either 11xx or 20xx and hope that NV will use the disruption of architecture change to restart the numbering with some suffix. Like GeForce Vx0 (V60, V70, V80, etc) or something.
"People" generally don't. Some very specific part of people do.
Weren't the 8** cards laptop GPUs or something
ThoseDeafMutes
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They're never going to stick with a consistent scheme, tech companies are allergic to it.
They're never going to include year in there because then if they release in december or don't refresh for a while they start to look bad. They're hesitant to include the architecture name because there's no clear way for consumers to tell which one is better than another (Is Hawaii better than Fiji? Is Maxwell better than Kepler???), and if there was, people would get annoyed by rebadges and low end cards using old archs. They don't want to stick with a consistent numbering scheme because they run out fast and have to compete with competitor numbering schemes that may "look" superficially better.
IMO since consumer GPUs are an enthusiast market it wouldn't matter for any of those reasons, but I think their marketing believes that the ignorant people are a sufficiently large chunk of their market that they probably want to keep trucking with the "let's just fucking throw shit at the wall and maximize confusion" scheme they all use.