QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Nightmare and Inferno share the same trophy I believe. But hey if you are gonna go that far might as well fight drugged up on crack monsters
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Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana |OT| Two Systems, Two Heroes, One BIG HOLE
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Nightmare and Inferno share the same trophy I believe. But hey if you are gonna go that far might as well fight drugged up on crack monsters
Where did they tease V? You mean the blade thing at the start or is there something else? Because, I mean, the same way there's references to this, the latter half of VIII drops some not very subtle clues of where Adol is most likely going to head "next". They dropped waaaaaay too many references for it to be simply 'a reminder', and seemed to be setting up the next game [in the timeline] at several points there.
Not only the blade, but Kondo's been saying a fair bit lately that "if" Falcom remakes Ys V, they'll definitely want to incorporate more of the material from the design documents, which had a lot of stuff that didn't make it into the game. One of the most notable things is that the design documents have Dogi being present for the events of V, while he does not appear in the game itself at all. In VIII, they make reference to the design documents' version of events, with Dogi having been there.
I hope Tokyo Xanadu 2 does happen that soon, really liked the first one.
It's certainly happening at some point. They've said that they had been considering the possibility of a sequel if it sold at least 50k - their initial (Japanese) sales projection. It sold 150k. Some of the new eX+ content points toward one as well. I expect 2018 because that keeps up the pattern of the last few years of Kiseki > not Kiseki or Ys > Ys.
Post-launch-support is an ongoing project. And after that he'll probably be working on CS2.
Anyway, I've been playing on Hard. Doing my first Seven run on Nightmare and that's turning out fine, but I think with VIII being lengthier and having more story focus I think I don't want to be hitting those boss walls that strongly
leesmapman
Member
The Vita version says: "For portable device"
There's an interview from a magazine around September 2016 where Kondo said he'd like to do TX2 after Sen III. Can't link to scans here though, obviously.
i talk with the team that worked on this (they have really good training from a specific class that i took in college). they spent a lot of time and research on the material and contents to make sure it could feel as premium as possible. they wanted it to be the best ys collector's edition (out west at least), which wasn't a simple affair. i think they hit their mark.
It made me wonder if it was the end game sword of V or just a screwy mishap on their end.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
it is
yeah i don't know if it's supposed to be greek. isn't there a whole armor set in the same line? i doubt you're supposed to have a 'straight' shield and 'straight' armor. keeping it with the egyptian theming and calling it 'isis' ____ makes more sense.
TranceKuja
Member
Is it also 60 FPS on OG PS4 or just on PS4 Pro?
Well... it's definitely not meant to be "Isis" at least - the katakana is different from how that would be spelled in Japanese.
Sinh_Magnus
Member
After playing the demo in nightmare, I feel that's my choice for playing this game. Overworld monsters seemed pretty easy to handle while still being punishing if you aren't playing right and boss fight was a challenge.
i don't know the katakana so i can trust you know what you're talking about there. it just seems unlikely that it's supposed to be greek of all things unless the devs in the 90s just thought it sounded cool like the word 'new' sounds cool in japanese. it's also possible the original devs may have tried going for isis and got it wrong, considering where kefin takes place.
mindatlarge
Member
OG PS4 is nearly constant 60fps.
TranceKuja
Member
That's good to hear. Don't have a Pro and was gonna go for the pc-version for 60 FPS, but with the delays and all I won't feel bad about buying the PS4-version after all.
I hope European stores will start selling early ><
C
Contica
Unconfirmed Member
I'm so suprised that it seems people love the music in this. It's one element of the game that makes me really hate playing. I hate the music. To my ears it's 80s inspired pop-power rock, that is just stressful to listen to. It's annoying as fuck and it never knows when to slow things down.
To make things worse it's a very clear "digital trying to sound analogue" vibe going on, where there's a hyperactive lead guitar that sounds more like the cheap synth it is, than the guitar they want it to be. There are some nice tracks here and there, but overall most of it just sounds like a playlist of rejected Motoi Sakuraba boss battle themes. Yuck.
Other than hat the game is okay. After 20+ hours I find the combat to be entertaining enough, although it's very repetitive and I needed to map my own controls a bit (thumbs up for that option) since some of the controller layout is badly thought out.
But where is that great story I hear about? Did it get lost in translation or something?
To make things worse it's a very clear "digital trying to sound analogue" vibe going on, where there's a hyperactive lead guitar that sounds more like the cheap synth it is, than the guitar they want it to be. There are some nice tracks here and there, but overall most of it just sounds like a playlist of rejected Motoi Sakuraba boss battle themes. Yuck.
Other than hat the game is okay. After 20+ hours I find the combat to be entertaining enough, although it's very repetitive and I needed to map my own controls a bit (thumbs up for that option) since some of the controller layout is badly thought out.
But where is that great story I hear about? Did it get lost in translation or something?
Sinh_Magnus
Member
I saw the first hour or so on youtube, and I thought that this track was amazing. Gave me those "big adventure is just starting" feelings. I'm sure I will end up loving the OST.
Tizoc
Member
Well that's interesting, I am more interested in not skipping their dialog then xp
Shin Johnpv
Member
I got my copy of the CE yesterday and I have to say it is easily one of the best CE/Limited editions for any game. The box, and everything inside it is really well done. I only got a chance to play for like an hour yesterday though, so far so good though. I will just say these 2 things, 1 it is very obvious a Vita up port, I mean we knew that but its very blatant, and 2 Falcom really needs to get some more/better animators on their team.
mindatlarge
Member
Yeah, you can't go wrong with the PS4 version. Enjoy!
Great game. Enjoyed it a lot on Vita last year and I'm still screaming my way through my PS4 Inferno, Solo Adol, No Healing/Extra run at 120/130 hours in.
Combat's still not quite there I feel as the camera being directly behind Adol and co. can be really frustrating for dodging but still my favourite of the new combat incarnation.
Combat's still not quite there I feel as the camera being directly behind Adol and co. can be really frustrating for dodging but still my favourite of the new combat incarnation.
Toadthemushroom
Member
If you're lucky the digital version will go live on Wednesday morning.
darkjedi187
Member
Vita version will arrive tonight. Looking forward to playing.
TranceKuja
Member
Ah, cool. However now that I settled on the PS4-version, I really want to go physical. I would be my first physical Ys-game, own all the others on Steam or PSN-versions.
-Pyromaniac-
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edit: nvm
I tried to beat celceta on Nightmare at my first play, but then I realized that besides the enemies hitting harder you level up and earn gold slower. That sucks. I liked the first ys because I felt like the leveling disbt really matter, so I could people nightmare without feeling that the system was cheating on me
Is like this on VIII? I feel bad for not beating the game on nightmare at the first try "Im stuck with the beast master wearing the mask"
Is like this on VIII? I feel bad for not beating the game on nightmare at the first try "Im stuck with the beast master wearing the mask"
With the higher difficulties, it's meant to be more about skill than higher numbers. Unless you're gaining 5+ levels on a boss, you're not going to notice a significant increase in damage output. Each level gains you a smidge more health and roughly 3 points for atk and def which is not enough to notice a noticable increase.
For gold, as they're stuck on a remote island, gold is not a concern. Items and weapon upgrades are bought through materials you either get from resource points or from enemies. High grade materials can be exchanged for a certain amount of lower grade materials.
For weapon upgrades, these are gated at points and require a certain item which only comes from bosses at particuar points.After you've upgraded to a "new" weapon, you can then upgrade it from rank 1 to rank 3 with regular materials before needing the next major upgrade item from the next boss.
I don't know what trophies there are but I can think of two that would prove a pain without knowing in advance.
One is for recipes. Recipes are normally given either through story events or through side quests however there are a couple that are only gained from talking to npcs in ordinary dialogue at really specific points whicht have short windows before things happen and they change their dialogue again.
The other is for your social ranking with other characters? I don't know if there's a trophy for this but there is one character who has an item to increase their ranking that wasn't immediately obvious to me and isn't signposted that well. That said, I played through it without understanding what anyone was saying so perhaps it was signposted....
Lord of Ostia
Member
Does VIII take place before VII?
Lightning Lord
Banned
Yes it does. More specifically, it takes place between 5 and 6.
C
Contica
Unconfirmed Member
I think I'm done, I just can't play it anymore. I'm starting to wonder if my tastes have changed or what, but this game is just.. well, it's shit. It's really, really bad. From the endless tropes with "helpless" females, to horrible annoying music, to a combat system stuck in 2001, and onwards. I just really struggle to find redeeming qualities. I was really expecting more after those reviews.
I like the village growing, but.. yeah, that's it. Story is slow and uninteresting, characters are bland. I'd give it 3-4 out of 10, tops. It's just so slow and stiff.
Going from Nier Automata to this is... yeah.
I like the village growing, but.. yeah, that's it. Story is slow and uninteresting, characters are bland. I'd give it 3-4 out of 10, tops. It's just so slow and stiff.
Going from Nier Automata to this is... yeah.
Lord of Ostia
Member
Thanks, I figured from some of the exposition at the beginning.
Also wtf,
already a 'walking in on the girl bathing' scene
Lightning Lord
Banned
I primarily play Ys on Normal (except OiF which I've usually replay on Hard) and I decided to go with Hard on this one. I haven't found it to be terribly difficult so far. IIRC however, you can adjust the difficulty in the options.
Nothing beats being stranded on a deserted island and immediately taking a bath out in the open!
DarknessTear
Banned
Sahad is the worst pls delete and replace with Dogi ty.
I'm not sure what you're getting at with "helpless females" - Laxia's a pretty good character who isn't subject to that kind of thing, and Dana is really great and is the opposite of helpless. I have no idea what seems archaic about the combat to you either. I don't know how you can call it either slow or stiff.
I will concede that the story takes a while to get moving at full speed, but when it picks up, it really goes places.
I played about 2 hours last night (PS4 Pro) and the game is glorious so far. Music is A+++ even better so far than previous Ys games. Graphics are better than i expected on PS4 and 60fps makes it like butter mmmmm. Story seems cool to me so far - Sortof a mystery going on and i love the island setting. Combat is FAR better than Ys 7 so far, for me. Overall, my expectations are being surpassed in every way and i can't wait to dig in for an all nighter with this in a few hours.
Oh - the translation. I was mortified when i heard NIS America and not XSeed were releasing this in the US. Thus far, the translation has been completely fine and I hope that continues for the entire game. Feels like i dodged a bullet! The game could have been massively hurt by a shoddy translation but this is competent to pretty good. Voice acting I'm not loving at ALL though - bummer :/ (except for laxative she seems fine)
Oh - the translation. I was mortified when i heard NIS America and not XSeed were releasing this in the US. Thus far, the translation has been completely fine and I hope that continues for the entire game. Feels like i dodged a bullet! The game could have been massively hurt by a shoddy translation but this is competent to pretty good. Voice acting I'm not loving at ALL though - bummer :/ (except for laxative she seems fine)