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Patrick Klepek: Life, Death, Sacrifice: The Beautiful Tragedies of 'Nier: Automata'
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Nightengale
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DON'T READ IF YOU HAVEN'T FINISHED THE GAME. IT SPOILS ENDING E.
Nightengale
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Now if only Austin will sooner finish it.
toastyToast
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I think its fair to say it spoils everything notable
Not sure what your standard for "anime as fuck" is, but I don't think Automata fits that. It's definitely anime, though. Now, Tales, on the other hand, is anime as fuck.
Holundrian
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Just here to say pls do the Nier:A spoiler cast when Austin, Danielle or whoever have finished it. I enjoyed the waypoint radio discussion from a week ago on the game so much.
Well off to reading now!
Well off to reading now!
DaxMedFlax
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Man, I can't wait to play this game.
It was, but it was surrounded by a mediocre game experience.
When the game part of your video game is less than stellar, it's not hard to see why people won't play it.
Screw waiting, time for a cross-site Scoops and the Wolf reunion spoilercast.
KINGofCRA5H
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I had absolutely zero intent to play this game but after reading this I kind of want to pick it up.
It's like if Galaxy Express drove through anime history and crashed into a modern gothic fetish anime.
MetroidPrimeRib
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I'm glad this game is getting a lot of analysis. There are few games that actually deserve that but this is up there with Silent Hill 2, Metal Gear Solid 2 and Planescape Torment
Neuromancer
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Thank you. I am only on my second playthrough so I'll hold off reading this for now.
Nah. Nier is anime as fuck. I know people like to use "anime" as a pejorative around here but, personally, I don't. And Nier Automata touches on various beats that plenty of sci-if anime have touched upon.
Nier Automata just encapsulated those messages and those tropes into one memorable as fuck game. I don't know if it's GOTY caliber but I know I'll carry the memories of this game until the day I die.
Nightengale
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NieR is plenty anime. The difference is that it's not the typical image of anime, the moe-moe kind.
It's closer in veins to stuff like Evangelion, Fafner, Kaiba, Noein, etc. There is a body of anime work that are targeted at older audiences, but it's simply less mainstream and thus aren't seen by outsiders as representative of the main body of anime.
It's closer in veins to stuff like Evangelion, Fafner, Kaiba, Noein, etc. There is a body of anime work that are targeted at older audiences, but it's simply less mainstream and thus aren't seen by outsiders as representative of the main body of anime.
OniBarubary
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Man, I'm loving all these articles and podcasts about N:A. As a game I fucking loved, connected with on a deep level and am examining with a fine-tooth comb afterwards it certainly stands apart with heavy-hitting writing greats in a league of it's own (starring Tom Hanks).
SunBroDave
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Typo four words into the article. C'mon Waypoint editors get your shit together.
*nods head*
I couldn't have been the only one thinking of Ergo Proxy while playing Automata.
Dunno who this guy is, but has he stated he hates Berserk, End of Evangelion and stuff like that? Because that's the kind of anime Nier Automata has the most in common with.
Holundrian
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Seems like you're misunderstanding his jabs. Patrick also likes Dangan Ronpa and 999/VLR games I would consider even more anime.
nckillthegrimace
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Even if the themes aren't new to you because you played the first game, Automata builds on them in great ways.
Well, I did say it's anime, so I'm not really refuting the notion that it's anime. I'm just saying it's not anime as fuck in context of the current anime client (and how it seems to used negatively around here) which consists of mostly moe, CGDCT, mahou shoujos, and whatever. Of course, you get great gems like Fafner, Majestic Prince, and so forth, but those are kind of a rarity these days.
I started but did not finish watching this series. Worth it?
ShironRedshift
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Great article. Kinda weird that he conflates machines and androids, using "machines" to refer to both, since that makes it kind of a messy read whehter you're just starting the game or have completely finished it, but other than that shares a lot of my thoughts about the game.
Clear
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It does, but the original Nier was, and is, still a fantastic game.
Yeah its rough around the edges, but in my opinion it was never less than enjoyable to play, and many of its boss encounters were really memorable.
Honestly, I think its actually a good bit better as an overall piece of work than its usually given credit for being.
Yeah saying the game has multiple endings is doing more harm than good imo. People expect multiple endings to mean what stuff like Deus Ex Human Revolution or Mass Effect gives you as multiple endings (hit button A to watch ending cutscene A, hit button B to watch ending cutscene B).
Nier Automata ending A is basically the conclusion of the second act. If you stop playing there, you are missing probably half the story and 100% of the truth lol.
Nier Automata ending A is basically the conclusion of the second act. If you stop playing there, you are missing probably half the story and 100% of the truth lol.
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Deleted member 17706
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Just got ending A (and G, heh) last night, so I'm really looking forward to what more this game has in store.
Cramoss
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He didn't even mention the saddest part:If you reset Pascal's memories and visit him in his village in Route C, he's there selling machine cores and parts, which obviously are his friends and family's
That part fucked me up
killatopak
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He didn't even mention the saddest part:If you reset Pascal's memories and visit him in his village in Route C, he's there selling machine cores and parts, which obviously are his friends and family's
Holy shit. I haven't returned there yet..... fuckkkkkk
How many artists died in poverty? It takes ages for people to acknowledge true art.
NieR is like that cool indie band that everyone suddenly loves even though they've been around for 7 years
Demoskinos
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He didn't even mention the saddest part:If you reset Pascal's memories and visit him in his village in Route C, he's there selling machine cores and parts, which obviously are his friends and family's
Yeah when I saw he was selling the cores of the children I was like oh god.
Still, it was such a good price I couldn't pass it up.
He didn't even mention the saddest part:If you reset Pascal's memories and visit him in his village in Route C, he's there selling machine cores and parts, which obviously are his friends and family's
And you can resell Pascal's dead friends to make a huge profit. Yoko Taro likes to taunt the player with dilemmas like this; taking aspects of games that usually have no emotions attached ("I'm going to exploit this NPC to make money!") and turning them into existential crises.
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