monkeymagic
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New PES6 X360 Screens
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Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
Soccer has never had grass.
http://www.filecabin.com/members_vb/files/79734/Folder Games/proevolutionsoccer6_23.jpg
What's that in the backgroud? Next-gen grass?
:lol
What's that in the backgroud? Next-gen grass?
:lol
1. PES ain't about graphics.
2. Exclusive until the end of this year; Konami producers talking to 1up emphatically stated that MS went ahead and misconstrued their agreement when announcing '12 month exclusivity'.
In otherwords, next gen PES won't be coming out for the PS3 within launch window.
2. Exclusive until the end of this year; Konami producers talking to 1up emphatically stated that MS went ahead and misconstrued their agreement when announcing '12 month exclusivity'.
In otherwords, next gen PES won't be coming out for the PS3 within launch window.
sportzhead
Member
Fifa 07 for comparison.
Also, PES has never been a great looking game.
Also, PES has never been a great looking game.
monkeymagic
Banned
X360 owns Europe this holiday season.
supermackem
Banned
Ghost said:
Too right keep your gfx as long as i have native 720p i dont really care what it looks like. Pes is gameplay i wonder how many people who are posting going on about gfx are americans who dont really understand what pes is all about.
wow, are you serious?
Something tells me Konami made it look so bad just so it wouldn't be as good now that it's time exclusive to 360.
Have you totally forgotten about current gen consoles, namely PS2 which it's userbase is more than quadtripple than any next gen consoles by the time this comes out? Why won't they just buy the PS2 version when it looks so damn similar to this verion!
Something tells me Konami made it look so bad just so it wouldn't be as good now that it's time exclusive to 360.
thekad said:
Have you totally forgotten about current gen consoles, namely PS2 which it's userbase is more than quadtripple than any next gen consoles by the time this comes out? Why won't they just buy the PS2 version when it looks so damn similar to this verion!
supermackem
Banned
Dante said:
Erm live, 720p support, widescreen should i go on.
neondriver
Member
I wish I could...Dante said:
But Seabass stated that it's already using their next-gen pes engine, and that there won't be a big difference in the next version for both 360 and ps3... =/
monkeymagic
Banned
supermackem said:
PC and PS2 versions are playabale against each other online with up to 8 players.
X360 version is 1 vs 1 against X360 players only.
HD sets are not prevalent in Europe.
You're looking at a $400 investment just to play the game in widescreen with inferior online.
neondriver
Member
As I wrote before, Seabass said in an interview that they are already using their next-gen engine, and that you shouldn't expect high jumps regarding the graphics in the next iteration.Ghost said:
LiveFromKyoto
Member
monkeymagic said:
...for 6 weeks.
Ok, first off: judging next-gen graphics from screens (bad ones at that) only = not smart.
With that said, PES6 for the 360 actually doesn't look that bad. The 'new engine', as Seabass called it at GC (I was there when he said it), it's not a new engine at all. It's just a quick update. Pretty much everything (from stadium elements to grass) looks exactly like a high-res port of the old PS2 engine. There are some exceptions, tho. The players. They look really, really good. Not incredibly good (we're not talking NBA 2k7 here), but it doesn't even matter, because after 2 or 3 matches (I got to play like ten) all you really care about is the player's animation. Which is ... wow, just wow. Now that, coupled with awesome new ball physics, is what truly makes or breaks a next-gen football game. No more pinball effect. No more shitty ball control. The ball feels heavier, so do the players. One of the consequences of this is slower gameplay. Finally again, I should say. If you didn't like the last three PES games since they had that (small, but nonetheless, it was there) arcadish feel to them because of gameplay speed, you'll feel right at home again. Also, there's widescreen. You will say wow. It makes a huge difference.
Still, I too don't get Konami. Why can't they make a goddamn engine that's up to date with the hardware. I thought that that would be the case with the PS3 version, but Seabass seems to think otherwise. That's the new engine we've been working on for pretty long, he said. You can expect small step-ups in future WE/PES games, exactly as we did for PES3-4-5, he said. So what gives? Did they get cought up in the yearly releasing and don't have the time (I simply won't believe that they don't have the resources, WE/PES has been selling a shitload for a decade now) to do it right?
Anyway, if they fix the grass (which at the kick-off camera sequence actually does look volumetric, only to be replaced by that low-res ugly green mess once the camera shifts into the default side position.) I'll be a happy enough man.
With that said, PES6 for the 360 actually doesn't look that bad. The 'new engine', as Seabass called it at GC (I was there when he said it), it's not a new engine at all. It's just a quick update. Pretty much everything (from stadium elements to grass) looks exactly like a high-res port of the old PS2 engine. There are some exceptions, tho. The players. They look really, really good. Not incredibly good (we're not talking NBA 2k7 here), but it doesn't even matter, because after 2 or 3 matches (I got to play like ten) all you really care about is the player's animation. Which is ... wow, just wow. Now that, coupled with awesome new ball physics, is what truly makes or breaks a next-gen football game. No more pinball effect. No more shitty ball control. The ball feels heavier, so do the players. One of the consequences of this is slower gameplay. Finally again, I should say. If you didn't like the last three PES games since they had that (small, but nonetheless, it was there) arcadish feel to them because of gameplay speed, you'll feel right at home again. Also, there's widescreen. You will say wow. It makes a huge difference.
Still, I too don't get Konami. Why can't they make a goddamn engine that's up to date with the hardware. I thought that that would be the case with the PS3 version, but Seabass seems to think otherwise. That's the new engine we've been working on for pretty long, he said. You can expect small step-ups in future WE/PES games, exactly as we did for PES3-4-5, he said. So what gives? Did they get cought up in the yearly releasing and don't have the time (I simply won't believe that they don't have the resources, WE/PES has been selling a shitload for a decade now) to do it right?
Anyway, if they fix the grass (which at the kick-off camera sequence actually does look volumetric, only to be replaced by that low-res ugly green mess once the camera shifts into the default side position.) I'll be a happy enough man.
monkeymagic
Banned
LiveFromKyoto said:
Thought it was 8 weeks 'exclusive'.
When is PES6 dated?
neondriver
Member
Do you believe Konami will release PES6 for ps3 in January (or spring), instead of releasing the new winning eleven in spring and pes7 in fall?monkeymagic said:
To the people who are criticising it, let me ask you one question:
How many of you have ever played a PES game?
I'll take a wild shot at this and guess...none? It doesn't matter how it looks in downscaled, poor quality JPGs. Pro Evo is all about animation and physics. That is what makes the game worth buying. Fifa looks better? So what...Fifa is shit. Fifa has always been shit and Fifa will always be shit
Football (not Soccer...FOOTBALL) games are played from a high perspective. Partly because it's easier if you can see the whole pitch and partly to match real football presentation. At that distance, is there any need to have individually rendered stubble or other superficial details? Of course it isn't.
Ok, rant over because there's no point trying to convince some of you
How many of you have ever played a PES game?
I'll take a wild shot at this and guess...none? It doesn't matter how it looks in downscaled, poor quality JPGs. Pro Evo is all about animation and physics. That is what makes the game worth buying. Fifa looks better? So what...Fifa is shit. Fifa has always been shit and Fifa will always be shit
Football (not Soccer...FOOTBALL) games are played from a high perspective. Partly because it's easier if you can see the whole pitch and partly to match real football presentation. At that distance, is there any need to have individually rendered stubble or other superficial details? Of course it isn't.
Ok, rant over because there's no point trying to convince some of you
Again, not one person has even tried to suggest the PES is about the graphics, and just because it isnt doesnt change the fact that this is no where near the standard Fifa is setting graphically.
Would be nice if people read the thread before wading in with there 'ALL OF YOU ARE DUMB' posts which are highly ironic in a way i doubt needs explaining.
Would be nice if people read the thread before wading in with there 'ALL OF YOU ARE DUMB' posts which are highly ironic in a way i doubt needs explaining.
http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200608/N06.0826.1445.18789.htmSocreges said:.........quote?
The grass will look just fine from gameplay angles and even during replays. What's the point in analyzing it like this?
The game actually looks very good in motion.... though maybe I'm biased since it looks like an attractive WE/PES.