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Megaman Legends 3 axed; Capcom blames fans/goes insane, [Fans Start Support Group]
- Thread starter PeakPointMatrix
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Dr. Zoidberg
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Wow. Seems like some of you guys already hate the 3DS and hope it fails, and others think the first 6 month period of software and sales will indicate the future of the system.
The thing hasn't even been out that long, and we're recording the time of death? If I recall, the DS had a rough first year of it too. Don't get me wrong, it could very well fail, but I just think it's way too early to make a judgment unless you have some axe to grind.
The thing hasn't even been out that long, and we're recording the time of death? If I recall, the DS had a rough first year of it too. Don't get me wrong, it could very well fail, but I just think it's way too early to make a judgment unless you have some axe to grind.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I buy every system.randomkid said:
I figured I would get this at launch because launches are fun and the money I'd save by waiting for a price drop/revision is generally traded-off for the taste-testing I do before that game I want comes out.
One of my favorite series is Ouendan. I bought the game because I wanted something to play on my DS.
I don't act the way most people do.
DR2K
Banned
Uncle Rupee said:
To most buyers it was a portable Resident Evil game, it tanked. Hard. If you honestly think a sequel to a Megaman spin off that hasn't been around in a decade is going to do anything near a RE game, then you're not looking at things very logically.
I think with 3DS sales being substandard in general is probably the main factor in this cancellation. With SFIVs mediocre sales and RE:M bombing, I doubt Capcom is in the market to lose money just to appease fans.
Although I'm surprised they're also not going through with that little demo, it might have sparked some interest. Let the fans put their money where their mouths are.
Sennorin said:
yeah wooo nothing like N64
as we see from Ocarina of Time, it did nothing to change the fate of 3DS. People want daring original content for the system, not more regurgitated content made on the back of lazy corporates who overprice their system and then market their platforms in stores like this:
hey guys let's confuse consumers by making them think 3DS is yet another DS revision
that's totally smart and stuff
but yeah it's obviously third parties fault. I mean, because they cancelled Megaman Legends 3 and Saint's Row 3. As if anyone could have got any games out in this time frame that could change what 3DS is currently doing as a third party.
No, once again, it's Nintendo's fault. And once again, they have to fix it. Only will they? I think the 3DS will do fine because Nintendo is going to have Mario Kart, Pokemon and Animal Crossing. I do not think it will come close to DS numbers, however. And I do not think it will be third parties laid to blame.
PeakPointMatrix
Member
What if those people over at Capcom are actually marketing GENIUSES?
Fake cancel a game, get fans riled up, compromise with them by releasing the prologue, it sells bajillions, profit. Sneaky sneaky devils you are Capcom. Sneaky devils.
Fake cancel a game, get fans riled up, compromise with them by releasing the prologue, it sells bajillions, profit. Sneaky sneaky devils you are Capcom. Sneaky devils.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
*slap*SwiftSketcher said:
IT'S OVER, MAN. WAKE UP TO REALITY.
abstract alien
Member
Was the 3ds classic remake of Mega Man ever officially confirmed to be in development?
Resolution
Member
i just think i might give up on the 3ds and sell mine. seems like there is not much to look forward to. oh well time to hop on the vita in a few months.
sixteen-bit
Member
Which step is acceptance again?SwiftSketcher said:
Hours Left
Member
Wow, Capcom. Wow.
Truly ludicrous.
Truly ludicrous.
Fine Ham Abounds
Member
Naturally this happens right after I post this in that other thread.
http://www.themmnetwork.com/2011/07/18/the-rally-for-mml3-begin-the-mail-campaign/
So glad I didn't buy a 3DS.
What if the demo had come out on June 6 or whatever like it was supposed to?
I'm willing to bet this gets resurrected on Vita in 5 years when no one is interested in Capcom anymore.
http://www.themmnetwork.com/2011/07/18/the-rally-for-mml3-begin-the-mail-campaign/
So glad I didn't buy a 3DS.
What if the demo had come out on June 6 or whatever like it was supposed to?
I'm willing to bet this gets resurrected on Vita in 5 years when no one is interested in Capcom anymore.
Well, we have basically no information to go on except for the fact that the game is canned. So my best guess would be that it was canned for the same reason most games get canned- the publisher doesn't believe that the game will be profitable.Sennorin said:
So we ask ourselves, why wouldn't the game be profitable on the 3DS, despite the hype that it could have gotten from the beta/demo to be released on the eShop? A number of things... Capcom could be a piece of shit as indicated by many in this thread... or perhaps they don't have any confidence that the system will perform, and therefore believe that their niche title has no chance.
It's Nintendo's job this early on in the life cycle of the system to instill confidence in not only the investors but also to the people that make games for the system. There is little "data" to go by, so it's 100% up to Nintendo to assure developers and publishers that there will be a place for their games to succeed on the new platform.
So yeah, when we keep getting repeated news that 3rd parties are already withdrawing promised-"big-name" titles for the system this early on, I throw a lot of blame at Nintendo. Ultimately, at this stage in the game, it's their marketing strategies and their communication with other publishers that dramatically affect what games are and aren't made.
Cheesemeister
Member
Man, twist that knife.
I guess that about wraps it up for Mega Man. RIP 1987-2011.
I guess that about wraps it up for Mega Man. RIP 1987-2011.
C-Jo said:
This will be Capcom's fighting game output this generation:
Super Street Fighter II HD Remix
Street Fighter IV
Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom
Super Street Fighter IV
Marvel Vs. Capcom 3
Super Street Fighter IV 3D Edition
Super Street Fighter IV Arcade Edition
Street Fighter x Tekken
Street Fighter III: Online Edition
(Probably) Super Marvel Vs. Capcom 3
You don't think that's just a bit much for one publisher in a single genre in one generation? Sure, that's over a variety of platforms, but this is a genre that hasn't been healthy for a very long time, and such a large amount of titles being released in this short span isn't healthy.
Even Scamco isn't whoring out Tekken, and Soul Calibur that much.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
DR2K said:
Actually, all told, SSF4 3DS did pretty well. It was assuredly profitable.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
well isn't this the greatest news I've heard all day.
Now if you don't mind I'm going to go yell at the top of my lungs, and go cry in a corner.
Now if you don't mind I'm going to go yell at the top of my lungs, and go cry in a corner.
mr_chun said:
You stated what Nintendo´s job in general is, understood. But would you go into detail about that? Because as I see it, the only way Nintendo could have done things differently, would have been by releasing first party-titles. Which is what Nintendo intentionally decided against, to give third party-games room for success.
If you want to criticize Nintendo´s lack of a future outlook into what 3DS is going to offer, then I´ll gladly join you, because I´d criticize that, too. However, when it comes to the current situation, I honestly think that it is third-parties who are to blame. At least, they shouldn´t start canceling games before having given their all.
Well, I don't care for the 3DS/Vita stuff. But other than that, as long as the quality remains high and any/all updates are meaningful, bring it on.Takao said:
The genre is never going to be a perennial favorite amongst casuals. They might as well do right by their fans while they can.
Edit: As far as I'm concerned, fighters are about the only thing they've done right this generation.
I don't know what they could have done differently, cause I don't work in the industry or for Nintendo so I have no idea what goes on behind the scenes. I can only speculate. Whatever it is they're doing, it's not working. Saint's Row, Assassin's Creed, and Mega Man- all big names that have been touted by Nintendo at press conferences as examples of third party support- have been canned. They got the support, and then they lost it. That's all I know. They're doing something wrong, whether it be instilling confidence in their platform, marketing, whatever. They're at fault somewhere.Sennorin said:
I don't blame the third parties, even if they didn't give it their all. They're here to make money, not lose it. So if the situation looks bleak, they can the games.
InfiniDragon
Member
I love how some people are spinning this to blame Nintendo for Capcom's massive fuckups.
Even though this game would have never moved systems (even in JP), it's still a unnecessary trolling to announce it before it was fully greenlit then cancel it. It's like Capcom is seriously trying to see how many people they can make mad. I was never big on Legends, but I feel for everybody that got their hopes up only to get "lol Capcom'd". Sucks, guys.
Even though this game would have never moved systems (even in JP), it's still a unnecessary trolling to announce it before it was fully greenlit then cancel it. It's like Capcom is seriously trying to see how many people they can make mad. I was never big on Legends, but I feel for everybody that got their hopes up only to get "lol Capcom'd". Sucks, guys.
InsaneZero
Member
Really, the only thing that will stop the 3DS from sharing the Wii's fate is for Iwata to identify that the signs are there for this event to repeat and throwing money at third parties.
Like, right now. Actually, a while back during the launch of Zelda would have been more preferable.
There is a VERY small window of opportunity available next year where you will still have time to release a decent product while not coming out to a complete drought. Nintendo needs to get third parties back on board before the already announced list of releases completely dries up.
Now, considering that they've also got the WiiU to be concerned about at the same timeframe, I'm highly doubting that they're going to make it.
Like, right now. Actually, a while back during the launch of Zelda would have been more preferable.
There is a VERY small window of opportunity available next year where you will still have time to release a decent product while not coming out to a complete drought. Nintendo needs to get third parties back on board before the already announced list of releases completely dries up.
Now, considering that they've also got the WiiU to be concerned about at the same timeframe, I'm highly doubting that they're going to make it.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I learned a long time ago I need to choose between the two.randomkid said:
This this this. You would have thought that people would have learned from the cautionary tale that is the early-generation PS3 loyalist's take on FFXIII.Roto13 said:
I really didn't care much for Legends, nor have any hype for it, but it is kind of terrible how the 3DS third-party landscape is shaping up.
Hours Left
Member
They should of never even announced the game if it was on such tenuous terms.
This is a colossal blunder.
This is a colossal blunder.
SonicMegaDrive
Member
Gunloc said:
I don't think they were expecting Inafune to be no longer working there when they announced it and Mega Man Universe.