yes, though that particular clip is slightly longer. I think I counted 7-8 seconds.
It's at the start of the last episode
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yes, though that particular clip is slightly longer. I think I counted 7-8 seconds.
It's at the start of the last episode
hodayathink
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There's an important part I want to add to this, which is that her boyfriend is the guy whose agency was actually the subject of the Hot Girls Wanted movie.
Slightly on topic: someone mentioned some cam site I'd never heard of on a forum once (cam4 I think?) and the very first time I went to it... I stared at a thumb nail near the top of their popular streams and was like.. "no, it can't be".. clicked, and sure enough, it was an ex girlfriend of mine.
Was really hilarious. I trolled her a bit and then felt a little bad as she was absolutely horrified that someone recognized her. I got banned from the chat or whatever because I wouldn't say who I was.
Of all the gin joints in all the world...
Was really hilarious. I trolled her a bit and then felt a little bad as she was absolutely horrified that someone recognized her. I got banned from the chat or whatever because I wouldn't say who I was.
Of all the gin joints in all the world...
We broke up because she fucked my older brother. Was sort of on the way out of the relationship anyways, had just moved out, etc. but that shit was pretty savage.
But either way I quickly told her not to worry and that I wasn't anyone that mattered to her, wouldn't tell anyone, etc. What was I to do?? Not saying hello would be rude!
RedAssedApe
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ok i think i'm in the middle of watching this episode. so they are in the montage in episode 6 where they are just talking about people who live stream on periscope, facebook live, and show random clips?
that particular episode wasn't even about camgirls or the porn industry. i guess i understand the part about asking permission but how does that extend to Netflix outting them/giving out real names? there wasn't really any focus on any of the individuals in the montages or screen names or anything that i can recall.
hodayathink
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People have been confusing the two issues. They outed Gia's name (her first name at least), they used the footage of the cam girls without permission but didn't name them.
RedAssedApe
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Ah ok. That article in the op was kind of confusing.
Also see a couple of articles about how people in the porn industry that participated claim that they were tricked into signing releases by people who said they weren't filming for this series
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...hida-jones-s-sex-series-hot-girls-wanted.html
Apparently they weren't fans of the original doc...
Fucking hell.
How in the fuck do you make a show about sex workers and then deliberately fuck them over?
Jesus Christ.
Have a god damn ounce of compassion and care.
Also, I assume all the fucks who are like "well don't do porn then if you don't want people to know!" I assume you wouldn't mind porn sites telling your family, friends, and co-workers what you are up to and into right? Cause everything you do is all on you?
How in the fuck do you make a show about sex workers and then deliberately fuck them over?
Jesus Christ.
Have a god damn ounce of compassion and care.
Also, I assume all the fucks who are like "well don't do porn then if you don't want people to know!" I assume you wouldn't mind porn sites telling your family, friends, and co-workers what you are up to and into right? Cause everything you do is all on you?
IISANDERII
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That episode with the camgirl visiting her client in Australia was so awkward
RedAssedApe
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I agree that the gia Paige thing is fucked up if she asked out but the other thing could just be chalked up to a dumb mistake.
Dumb mistakes aren't cute little accidents when it involves a service watched by millions and millions of people.
You don't just excuse fucking over regular people by saying "ah, slipped up!" I don't care what it is.
RedAssedApe
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Have you watched the episode in question? Just curious because it slightly changed how strongly I felt about what was stated in the article
The article also draws more attention to the episodes and probably has loads of people seeking out the video footage.
Yes.
I just think when you make such a series, you should do it with extreme care, go ahead and use too much care, go overboard with the care. So even if its something small, it ironically shows the problems people do deal with when seemingly people on their side trying to help are still negligent.
Edit: Something as simple as just showing a small clip of footage of a cam performer to millions and millions of people, can have a huge impact on their lives.
Hasphat'sAnts
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Rhetorical question not aimed at people who live in Encino
PHOENIXZERO
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This took way too long to be brought up.
hodayathink
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January. Next time will be June. After that, probably August. If I really wanted to, could have seen one last weekend (Lexi Belle was at C2E2, probably would have run into her if I'd gone).
ZackieChan
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There's four factors that go into analysing fair use. If it's a short clip, and for purposes of criticism or scholarship, it's probably going to be fair use. Commercial or published nature of the clip or the usage isn't dispositive.
RedAssedApe
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Can you do this on periscope?
I don't think the episode in question used any footage from cam sites but I could be wrong. If anyone is interested I believe the clip is around the 3:15 mark of episode 6. Green haired girl with her friend next to a pole.
hodayathink
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I don't think you can, since Periscope is basically Twitter's equivalent to Youtube streaming and Facebook Live. I mean, it's possible that they didn't even know the footage they got was from cam girls, but if I'm making an internationally shown documentary, I'd at least make the attempt to ask the person that uploaded the Periscope video if I could use it. While it's not illegal to use it without asking, it's still just a shitty thing to do, regardless of whether the people in it are cam girls or just regular people.
this is nuts. people need to know that camgirling is more common than it seems however. Haven't gotten to this particular episode just yet.
I'm watching the show now and its such a hate watch. First of all the first episode tries to portray arthouse erotica as something that most women would rather see instead of low quality spankbang footage which is just false. No one is trying to sit in a full theatre in Barcelona watching a pianist get her ass eaten.
Secondly, it is so self righteous about what it considers to be the truth of human sexuality, which is ultimately this very conservative thing to them. Just seems like it was made by a bunch of older women that think us youngins want what they had. I do watch it because sometimes i agree with certain things, like how socially inept and overly reliant on social media we are nowadays but its such an eye roller sometimes.
I'm watching the show now and its such a hate watch. First of all the first episode tries to portray arthouse erotica as something that most women would rather see instead of low quality spankbang footage which is just false. No one is trying to sit in a full theatre in Barcelona watching a pianist get her ass eaten.
Secondly, it is so self righteous about what it considers to be the truth of human sexuality, which is ultimately this very conservative thing to them. Just seems like it was made by a bunch of older women that think us youngins want what they had. I do watch it because sometimes i agree with certain things, like how socially inept and overly reliant on social media we are nowadays but its such an eye roller sometimes.
Wow. "I'm not saying they deserved it, just that they deserved it."
Pretty scummy from these people.
hodayathink
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And here's another person from the doc saying they had their name outed (but this time it actually does seem like it was an accident). Fair warning that this is a link to AVN, so it's NSFW:
https://avn.com/business/articles/v...cusses-hot-girls-wanted-turned-on-727879.html
https://avn.com/business/articles/v...cusses-hot-girls-wanted-turned-on-727879.html
PyroPaperPlanes
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Man, Netflix PR department must be sweating bullets. First Bill Nye, now this.
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Reading that other article, these clips were from periscope so not only are they not behind a paywall they are not even from a 'porn' site at all and are freely available to the public. The only real contention I can see is the woman who signed a release and then says she changed her mind as it was her whose name was apparently shown. Without any documentation though, she legally won't have a case, and it is difficult to know if she is telling the truth.
hodayathink
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In regards to all these situations, they're legally in the clear (Gia probably should have gotten them to put in writing that they would take her out of the show). Doesn't mean it wasn't a shitty thing to do in each case.
Cam sites are recorded all day every day, for anyone expecting there to anonymity of any form on the Wild West that is the internet is absolutely deluded. It's just a matter of time until someone finds it - what you put up there is permanent. And this ignores the existence of VPN's or people accessing the internet from a different location as humans, contrary to popular belief, aren't stuck in one place forever.
That being said, this series, since it itself is making money due to the participation of these models, needs to adhere to their stipulations, even if those stipulations are, as I have just explained, a temporary fix to a long-term problem.
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Seriously though, this is disgusting. Ethically and morally despicable. Even if it's "legal," they should still sue for civil damages. Assholes.
Also had no idea Rashida Jones had such terrible views.
PHOENIXZERO
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Yes, I'm well aware of capping (which is generally illegal in and of itself) assuming the sites don't automatically archieve and VPNs but that's irrelevant to the topic.
I like this series.... I haven't watched every episode, but only the ones I'd be interested in. Might give the other ones a try.
I've watched the
Cam girl one
Porn stars one
40 year old Online dating guy
And Girl recording rape video (actually didn't get to finish this, for reasons) will watch later.
I've watched the
Cam girl one
Porn stars one
40 year old Online dating guy
And Girl recording rape video (actually didn't get to finish this, for reasons) will watch later.
hodayathink
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And in an interesting move, the producers have decided to double down and say everyone is either lying or exaggerating:
http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/hot-girls-wanted-criticism-netflix-1202404087/
http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/hot-girls-wanted-criticism-netflix-1202404087/
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