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4chan rumors: HUGE Final Fantasy XV spoilers (plot, gameplay) + dev talk

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Socivol

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Is the character between Regis and Ardyn the same one as mentioned in the "leak"? Or am I forgetting some other character that's already been revealed?

In that case, this whole thing has been confirmed false by the E3 banner.

So does this mean the other characters that were in the XV reveal have had their story significance diminished?
 

UberTag

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If the feeling many have about the game, its history and what that guy said are true.. That really means FFXV was some kind of kamikaze game for SE.. A hell dev that never really knew where to go, but the more it's going on, the more SE is throwing all its money at it.

Look at how they did a fucking cgi movie to promote it...
It's like a strategy where you're losing in a casino but you think if you burn all your money you'll win eventually at some point..
I'd be feeling a lot better about the game if all of this shiny periphery content they've been trumpeting to distract us (CGI movie, anime, mobile game, etc.) wasn't being rushed out ahead of the game's release but was planned for after its launch to supplement it.
 

jimmypython

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Can't wait for people to start romanticizing Nomura as some kind of genius if the game ends up sucking lol.

It's already happening.

Well,

Nomura directed games: All the Kingdom Hearts games.
Nomura "touched" trailers: All the Kingdom Hearts games, All FF Versus XIII trailers, FFXV E3 2013 trailer, FFVII remake trailers, and more

Tabata directed games: BCFF7, CCFF7, The 3rd Birthday, FFtype0
Tabata made trailers: FFXV Dawn, Dawn 2.0, Claim the throne, E3 2016 trailers

I by no means a Nomura fan. I prefer non-Kitase+Nomura FF games back in the days.

For Nomura's games, despite some design choices I don't really agree with, they are still great games inside. For Tabata's games (excluding FFXV), I can only say although there are some good steps in a right direction, there are major areas in the core gameplay need to be improved. Sadly, maybe Tabata's incrdible ego gets in his way this time, nothing seems to have been improved since Type0. Hell, to me, FFXV is just a glorified FFtype0, with all its flaws in the core gameplay intact. It seems Tabata refuses to learn how to improve his ability as a game designer.

And don't get me started on their ability to make trailers.
 
So does this mean the other characters that were in the XV reveal have had their story significance diminished?

Honestly that's exactly what I'm expecting. People should not expect characters like the hooded man to really have any significance. Characters like the hooded man, Aranea Highwind and General Glauca will be side characters a la Jihl Nabaat and Yaag Rosch from FF13.

And what about this guy?

FFXV_Unknown_Old_Man.png

I remember people were theorizing that he was Noctis' uncle who goes bad and betrays Noctis' father.

It's funny because fan theories and speculation like that sound way better than what we may end up with if those leaks are true.
 
Well,

Nomura directed games: All the Kingdom Hearts games.
Nomura "touched" trailers: All the Kingdom Hearts games, All FF Versus XIII trailers, FFXV E3 2013 trailer, FFVII remake trailers, and more

Tabata directed games: BCFF7, CCFF7, The 3rd Birthday, FFtype0
Tabata made trailers: FFXV Dawn, Dawn 2.0, Claim the throne, E3 2016 trailers

I by no means a Nomura fan. I prefer non-Kitase+Nomura FF games back in the days.

For Nomura's games, despite some design choices I don't really agree with, they are still great games inside. For Tabata's games (excluding FFXV), I can only say although there are some good steps in a right direction, there are major areas in the core gameplay need to be improved. Sadly, maybe Tabata's incrdible ego gets in his way this time, nothing seems to have been improved since Type0. Hell, to me, FFXV is just a glorified FFtype0, with all its flaws in the core gameplay intact. It seems Tabata refuses to learn how to improve his ability as a game designer.

And don't get me started on their ability to make trailers.



The ability to make a good trailer =/= the ability to make a good game. Don't get me wrong in terms of talent, Nomura is pretty good but vastly overrated. From a development standpoint he had a good start with arguably one of the weirdest and best RPG of all time in Kingdom Hearts, from then on it started to be a convoluted mess of a story with Organization XIII, The Nobodies, and everything else. Its also amusing that you compare Nomura to Tabata when the latter was relegated to make small budget games on small platforms with 3rd Birthday being the exception on the PS3 (Type 0-PSP, Crisis Core-PSP). I find it amusing the amount of revisionist history from Tabata critics when Type 0 first released, there was a huge outcry from the Western audience petitioning to get the game localized in English. When it was finally ported to the PS4 and Xbox One, it was predictably outdated.
 
Honestly that's exactly what I'm expecting. People should not expect characters like the hooded man to really have any significance. Characters like the hooded man, Aranea Highwind and General Glauca will be side characters a la Jihl Nabaat and Yaag Rosch from FF13.

And what about this guy?



I remember people were theorizing that he was Noctis' uncle who goes bad and betrays Noctis' father.

It's funny because fan theories and speculation like that sound way better than what we may end up with if those leaks are true.

We're really going to have to wait and see about that. I think people are putting too much stock in this guys "leaked info" that's playing off everybody's fears. Who is this guy, Trump?
 
What did Verendus said about this?

Also, Verendus knows a lot, but not everything(and on many accounts, have stated so much). This leaker guy seems to be some sort of "god of information" that, unless you worked arms deep in every aspect of the development project(with the programmers, with the testers, at the meetings), you wouldn't possibly KNOW that much.
 

kswiston

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Looks like some press reports are talking about playing 2 hours of the game at E3. Nice of S-E to let them try everything they have managed to finish to date! :p
 
I hope this is made up...demos and trailers have already proved bad gameplay and main characters...the overarching story and world being crap would be sad since I know I'm still going to play the game anyway
 

Glassheart

Neo Member
Poster on 4chan correctly leaked the title of MS conference's FFXV demo (Trial of the Titan).



"Stella was replaced with Luna and Regis is still in the game, his design changing means nothing towards his role. Prompto design also changed idiot. Kill yourself "
You're treating Luna and Stella like they're comparable. They aren't. As I've said before, a lot of the shift from V13 to 15 was about maintaining an image to keep fans and hype from V13 going, so they needed a blonde chick to replace Stella, and that's Luna. Luna isn't a slightly rewritten Stella, its a completely different character. The point is, things have significantly changed in the game since then. And they're still changing now, 4 months before release

If Stella completely different from Luna, What was Stella's true intentions? Is Stella one of the antagonists? Was she more interesting then Luna?
 

Wensih

Member
That was rushed because Microsoft needed something to release in time for the holidays in 2014.

You might think they are shitty, but how many broken games has Square-Enix released from their Japanese studios? Given that this has had 10 years of on an off development, I really doubt they are going to release a broken mess now, instead of just delaying the game again. Especially since there is nothing special about coming out in September.


Having the game so incomplete 3.5 months from launch just sounds like bullshit, given that the game has 2 months or so before it goes gold. They should be entering playtesting soon (if not already) if they are going to make that release date.

I never said I thought they were shitty, I'm just stating that the game seems to be in constant revisions every time we get a new glimpse at it ('we've taken fan feedback into consideration and added this entirely new system that wasn't in the previous build, e.g. wait mode'). Not only has their Japanese studio released a broken and unfinished game, the game was also a mainline final fantasy game. Final Fantasy XIV was released in a state that had to be scrapped and restarted.

After a decade worth of on and off development time, I would expect share holders are putting fire to the company's feet. I don't think it's too ludicrous to suggest that SE is also in a rush to release this title.
 

Clear

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I never said I thought they were shitty, I'm just stating that the game seems to be in constant revisions every time we get a new glimpse at it ('we've taken fan feedback into consideration and added this entirely new system that wasn't in the previous build, e.g. wait mode'). Not only has their Japanese studio released a broken and unfinished game, the game was also a mainline final fantasy game. Final Fantasy XIV was released in a state that had to be scrapped and restarted.

After a decade worth of on and off development time, I would expect share holders are putting fire to the company's feet. I don't think it's too ludicrous to suggest that SE is also in a rush to release this title.

Well. If you consider the expense and disruption of fixing FFXIV, I'd expect them to not want to release prematurely if they don't have to. And more to the point, considering Sept 30 is a date that's early in the holiday season and way away from the end of the financial year, seems to me that they have a decent amount of wiggle-room in case of slippage built in, before it impacts the financials.
 
Since the Thread is still called
"Thread: HUGE Final Fantasy XV spoilers (plot, gameplay) + dev talk"
And does not have the *rumor* tag and I see Mods posting in this thread, does it mean is real?

If so, I really messed up by reading those spoilers.
 

Akainu

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Is the character between Regis and Ardyn the same one as mentioned in the "leak"? Or am I forgetting some other character that's already been revealed?

In that case, this whole thing has been confirmed false by the E3 banner.

I swear characters keep disappearing from that picture.
 

.JayZii

Banned
Since the Thread is still called
"Thread: HUGE Final Fantasy XV spoilers (plot, gameplay) + dev talk"
And does not have the *rumor* tag and I see Mods posting in this thread, does it mean is real?
Seems like an oversight.
Do you see "poster has been verified" anywhere?
I guess not.

That sounds a bit disingenuous, though. I would think people see a 10 page thread with purportedly huge plot, gameplay and development spoilers with no edits and mods posting in it as something of a verification in and of itself. Could just be me, though.
 

Falk

that puzzling face
Since the Thread is still called
"Thread: HUGE Final Fantasy XV spoilers (plot, gameplay) + dev talk"
And does not have the *rumor* tag and I see Mods posting in this thread, does it mean is real?

Do you see "poster has been verified" anywhere?
 
I remember when there was a 4chan leak prior to MGS V: TPP and everyone was going crazy at how bad the story was

-Miller betrays Big Boss and steals the biological weapon they were developing.

-Big Boss is forced to team up with Skullface e


Granted that would've been better that the somewhat non-story we got in the final product but still. I don't understand why people put such big stock into these 4chan posts when they're more often than not bullshit.
 

Falk

that puzzling face
That sounds a bit disingenuous, though. I would think people see a 10 page thread with purportedly huge plot, gameplay and development spoilers with no edits and mods posting in it as something of a verification in and of itself. Could just be me, though.

Well, "mods" in this case seems to be pretty much me, and I'm actually hands off on moderating/editing FFXV threads with regards to speculation (or even participating in speculation-related discussion) up through till release for other reasons.

edit: Got someone else to do it.
 

Ceravic

Member
Was the wait mode indicated anywhere in those leaks? You'd think that's a substantial thing that'd be mentioned if it was legit.
 

Kyzer

Banned
how would they even know if anyone was working on FFXVI? surely they dont know what the top dawgs are up to
 

wmlk

Member
Was the wait mode indicated anywhere in those leaks? You'd think that's a substantial thing that'd be mentioned if it was legit.

When this poster was "leaking" BS in that thread, he conjured up false information to appear aloof and credible. Like someone who has no stakes in the entire thing. Saying stuff like Tabata and co. don't know what to do so they made the car break down twice in the game.

He's seemingly purposely left out things to sound legit in a weird way.
 
God damn if this train wreck is actually happening. I really really WANT to like this game.

Let us not forget that the entire cast of Smash 4 was leaked on /v/.
 

hemo memo

Gold Member
"Can you explore Lucis and the other cities? how big are the cities"
You only go into Lucis for the final boss fight, so don't get excited about it. The other cities are JRPG town sized, nothing special. Most of the map is empty land.

"Does the game have a lot of towns and cities?"
No

This is bad if true.
 

MattyG

Banned
Only 2 hours playable? Not many towns? I don't buy it.

And them not working on XVI if XV doesn't do well. LOL they aren't bailing on the series.
 
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