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The trade war has begun between the US and Canada

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Kifimbo

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Response from Canada:

“The Government of Canada disagrees strongly with the U.S. Department of Commerce’s decision to impose an unfair and punitive duty. The accusations are baseless and unfounded,” reads a statement sent out by Justin Trudeau’s government on Monday night.

“The Government of Canada will vigorously defend the interests of the Canadian softwood lumber industry, including through litigation,” the statement reads, adding: “We have prevailed in the past and we will do so again.”
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Some background: http://globalnews.ca/news/3399952/reality-check-does-canada-subsidize-softwood-lumber/

“What they are saying in the U.S. is the Canadian government is essentially giving this land away cheaper than it should be and that is an illegal subsidy,” BMO economist Alex Koustas told Global News. “However, it’s been established through a number of panels and resolution panels that is not the case.”

Both resolution panels from the World Trade Organization and under the North American Free Trade Agreement had found that Canadian softwood lumber production is not subsidized.

Koustas believes the forthcoming announcements from the U.S. Commerce Dept. are the result of a rebounding housing market and the increasing market share of Canadian lumber which is now at roughly 30 per cent.

“That increase in market share has started to rile some of the U.S. producers and really has led to this détente we are seeing now,” he said.
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I wonder if we'll ever see Trudeau with Ivanka again.
 
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WedgeX

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Remembering reading about this a while ago.

Unsurprised it has escalated without resolution under the Trump administration.

1. Forest ownership is at the heart of the fight

Outside of the Maritimes, most forests in Canada are provincially-owned, while in the U.S. they’re privately-owned. The U.S. has long alleged that allows Canadian producers to sell their lumber at a lower price, undercutting American producers in the process. The Americans claim that amounts to a subsidy, a claim Canada has fought (largely successfully) at the World Trade Organization.

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3. Big consequences

According to Statistics Canada, as of 2013 , about 360,000 Canadians were employed by the forestry industry. Job losses are a reality if duties are imposed.

In the early 2000s, for example, the U.S. imposed a combined duty of 27.22 percent and within months 15,000 workers in B.C. were laid off. Ongoing negotiations are so tenuous, Canadian producers refused to comment on potential job losses or hits to the industry.
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http://globalnews.ca/news/2999152/5-things-to-know-about-canadas-softwood-lumber-trade-war-with-us/
 
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Nivash

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"The Government of Canada will vigorously defend the interests of the Canadian softwood lumber industry,"

The only way this could have been more Canadian would have been if it was the maple syrup industry. It sounds like something out of a parody.
 
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Parch

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That softwood lumber dispute has been going on for decades. Now there's probably going to be lengthy list of stuff to fight over.
It's a good thing Canada has improved trade relations with several other countries. The less we have to deal with the US the better.
 
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ramuh

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Well Canada imposes a 270 percent tariff on US dairy so thats one part of it. And further, this probably stems from ultrafiltered milk which has been a boon for US dairy since it is covered by NAFTA, so duty free.
 
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Opto

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Nivash said:
"The Government of Canada will vigorously defend the interests of the Canadian softwood lumber industry,"

The only way this could have been more Canadian would have been if it was the maple syrup industry. It sounds like something out of a parody.
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I mean, the maple wars may happen if current US production remains low.
 
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Dr.Acula

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WedgeX said:
1. Forest ownership is at the heart of the fight

Outside of the Maritimes, most forests in Canada are provincially-owned, while in the U.S. they’re privately-owned. The U.S. has long alleged that allows Canadian producers to sell their lumber at a lower price, undercutting American producers in the process. The Americans claim that amounts to a subsidy, a claim Canada has fought (largely successfully) at the World Trade Organization.
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http://globalnews.ca/news/2999152/5-things-to-know-about-canadas-softwood-lumber-trade-war-with-us/
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That doesn't even make any sense. Private ownership means more competition which keeps prices down! /s
 
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Doran902

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Trouble said:
Don't worry, you aren't missing anything. Go to Dunkin Donuts and you basically have the exact same thing with better coffee.
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Tim Horton's isn't even a Canadian company anymore. They were bought out by the same company that bought Burger King from Brazil I believe. The quality of coffee went off a cliff years ago when they changed bean suppliers as well. Dunkin Donuts is indeed better coffee now.
 
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Regiruler

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MANUELF said:
Will there even be a nation on friendly terms with the US in 4 years?

Russia will be it
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Other countries aren't stupid, they know a different administration will bring change. Even if they clamp down now, there's nothing to say they'll stay like that for a long duration.
 
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Switch Back 9

a lot of my threads involve me fucking up somehow. Perhaps I'm a moron?
Just wait til we legalize weed next year. Shit is really gunna hit the fan.
 
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ConfusingJazz

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I have a simple solution for this.

Annex Canada.

Nivash said:
"The Government of Canada will vigorously defend the interests of the Canadian softwood lumber industry,"

The only way this could have been more Canadian would have been if it was the maple syrup industry. It sounds like something out of a parody.
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They didn't say anything about hockey, apologize, nor say "eh?"
 
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