They posted the trademark which doesn't mean they own the IP. Looking for proof they actually own the IP like everyone is saying.
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PS Blog: Hideo Kojima Death Stranding interview: Strands, Decima and Guerrilla
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They posted the trademark which doesn't mean they own the IP. Looking for proof they actually own the IP like everyone is saying.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Info on how an unlikely engine collaboration came about
Small tidbits on a new IP from Kojima
GAF:meh but who owns the ip
Lol love it
Small tidbits on a new IP from Kojima
GAF:meh but who owns the ip
Lol love it
This was posted in an old ass neogaf thread. Seems like Sony bought the IP from QD.
We know that Sony's policy is IP ownership if they are investing in the project. As we have seen that does not mean the game will not come to PC as we have seen with 2 traditionally pc developers getting their games released on steam. However the scale of investment and prestige make me think it is unlikely in this case.
Triggerhappytel
Member
This is so great of them. Herman Hulst seems like such a genuinely great guy.
SolidSnakex
Member
Yeah, they've made two comments on the release date. One to say that of course they have a release date otherwise they wouldn't be able to nail down a budget. And Kojima noted that it would be out before the 2020 Olympics in Tokyo.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
I say we replace naughty dog as best first party studio for GG who's with me!!!
*Crickets
Joking aside I do wonder if Sony are in talks to simply absorb Kojima productions into being a first party
*Crickets
Joking aside I do wonder if Sony are in talks to simply absorb Kojima productions into being a first party
Triggerhappytel
Member
I fully expect this to be just like MGSV but with more weird/horror stuff.
LastMinuteHero
Member
Haha basically this
Calling anyone who answers a question a "fanboy" is really showing how mature you are. It's "cute".
sugarhigh4242
Banned
Eh trademark means *something*. For one, it means that no company can use that title or logo without the possibility of legal challenge. When people talk about a publisher "owning the IP", owning the trademark is a major piece of that. The other major piece is the copyrighted material in the game itself.
If Sony is publishing, the likelihood is that the entirety of the franchise will be exclusive to PlayStation. That's the typical deal for SCE. Granted Kojima is a special person, and could get special treatment. As of what's public, theres no reason to believe it.
Hmm... lol not lel!!
well he is making DS now not MGS
Triggerhappytel
Member
But it doesn't say "no strings attached" in the quote in the OP. They gave him a copy of the engine on USB and asked Kojima to choose their engine. It was a gesture more than anything, because before KojiPro could begin using the engine for any commercial purposes contracts would need to be drawn up.
ethomaz
Banned
Like I said...
Sony published, has the trademark, etc of Everybody's Gone to the Rapture.
They didn't own the IP.
BTW Sony itself: https://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2016/160614a.html
Kojima sure loves his technology and he made the right move getting in on Guerilla's engine. Horizon is proof enough that it should work extremely well for his vision.
What's also lovely is this collab and Decima being ready means that we could get the game sooner than expected i.e. not 2020+ like people were making jokes about when DS was first announced.
What's also lovely is this collab and Decima being ready means that we could get the game sooner than expected i.e. not 2020+ like people were making jokes about when DS was first announced.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Uh, I think you're wrong on this. What makes you think they don't own the IP of EGttR?
EDIT - from its page on the PSN store:
Yes you are right and this is how I've read it as well. I just found hilarious the narrative of the "no strings attached" until the questions about a PC version started to pop in the second page and all the shits and giggles turned into "OMG SONY'S ENGINE AND IP LOLOLOL".
I have no clue who owns the IP but I love people believing that they're all friends and make presents on projects of several dozen millions of dollars.
And then I get called immature and stuff, it's really all brilliant.
I hope neither Norman Reedus, Mads Mikkelsen or any other Hollywood Actor is the Player Character. I don't want Video Games to turn into movies.
Also if this will end up being an open world game with some kind of multiplayer, which is what it sounds like, it would be best to just have Character Creation. I always find it stupid if games with a set Character have "real" multiplayer. And everyone is basically the same person.
Also if this will end up being an open world game with some kind of multiplayer, which is what it sounds like, it would be best to just have Character Creation. I always find it stupid if games with a set Character have "real" multiplayer. And everyone is basically the same person.
Seriously?
Dirk Benedict
Member
So, you're in a thread basically masking an insult to the lot that actually have enthusiasm for the topic.
While people are actually trying to discuss things, you just want to put them down?
Holier than thou?
Pic Related:
From what I understand, the engine's been around awhile and before it had a name, was used in Until Dawn, another first party game. Edit: I think people were calling it the KZ engine when Shadow Fall was shown/came out.
ethomaz
Banned
Because It is on PC.
But if you believe that much in trademark then Heavy Rain is Quantic Dream's IP.
And why Sony even having the trademark of DEATH STRANDING said it is console exclusive: https://www.sie.com/en/corporate/release/2016/160614a.html
Yes?
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
That's what it sounds like. It's essentially both of theirs now and it's something both teams will be developing further and passing back and forth..It's going to be one hell of a engine
InsaneTiger
Member
Awesome information BUT is it Playstation Exclusive? Console Exclusive? Will there be label on the damn box art?!
I NEED TO KNOW! Otherwise it's all lies.
I NEED TO KNOW! Otherwise it's all lies.
This is pretty much what the thread is now, lol.
gundamkyoukai
Member
It's on PC because Sony publish it on PC.
Look at the steam page it's publish by Sony mobile same for Helldivers .
Strangelove77
Member
Well, this thread went in an expected direction. Took longer than usual too. Kudos.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
damn, that was great to read. GG showing the world what's up, much respect as always
Khalifa Jayy
Banned
Grinning ear to ear reading this part
ethomaz
Banned
So Heavy Rain is Quantic Dream's IP.
Dirk Benedict
Member
I've read something to that effect, yes.
People making the jokes don't seem to realize this is an entirely different scenario from the Konami Hell hole tenure.
It's a shame, because a lot of the information Kojima gave is pretty fascinating, whether it's the partnership with Guerrilla or what the gameplay is gonna be.
BUT DO WE KNOW IT'S EXCLUSIVE???
malboroking
Banned
Sorry man, MGS V was still the best game in those terms as well.
Crazy Diamond
Member
Posted in the old thread, but it looks like Kojima's found the female actor he had been looking for.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
I fully expect this is what he actually wanted to make but was forced to do MGSV instead and so was shackled to the constraints of that IP.
Death Stranding would definitely going to be a new and improved MGSV but with more polish and none of the baggage
Having actors that are playable in does not make a game a movie.
Dirk Benedict
Member
Emma stone, hopefully. She's ravishing in Lala Land.
InsaneTiger
Member
Uhh, that other thread was becoming tiresome to read.
Thank you, I know it is. Just making fun how ridiculous that other thread had become with labels and console/PS Exclusive, lies/half truths, whatever.
Looking forward to the next weird game from Kojima.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Kojima's programming team has always been full of extremely talented coders. This is what he managed to do on the PS3.
They excel at character models, cinematography and camera work.
I dont know if the engine is where the cutscene scripting goes, but i really hope GG learns a thing or two about cutscene direction and cinematography from KojiPro.
They excel at character models, cinematography and camera work.
I dont know if the engine is where the cutscene scripting goes, but i really hope GG learns a thing or two about cutscene direction and cinematography from KojiPro.
Even Steam page for Rapture has the copyright @Sony...
Crazy Diamond
Member
Yeah! I'm thinking either Emma Stone or Alicia Vikander, as he's been raving about those two.
Or it could just be Joosten again.
I think the next trailer will reveal the female character and another actor (Kevin Durand or Idris Elba seem the most likely).
letmetrythisname
Member
For what he's billing as a new kind of action game, the gameplay sounds really similar to MGSV right now.