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CO2 rise in 2016

jufonuk

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-41778089

Concentrations of CO2 in the Earth's atmosphere surged to a record high in 2016, according to the World Meteorological Organization (WMO).
Last year's increase was 50% higher than the average of the past 10 years.

Emissions from human sources have slowed down in the last couple of years according to research, but according to Dr Tarasova, it is the cumulative total in the atmosphere that really matters as CO2 stays aloft and active for centuries.

Another concern in the report is the continuing, mysterious rise of methane levels in the atmosphere, which were also larger than the average over the past ten years. Prof Nisbet says there is a fear of a vicious cycle, where methane drives up temperatures which in turn releases more methane from natural sources.

Well hopefully a few decades after lower emissions it starts to tail off

Is this ok for off topic. Remove if not
 

zeelman

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It’s not a “mysterious” rise in methane. Climate change is melting the Artic permafrost and it’s starting to thaw out the frozen methane.
 
Well unfortunately the CIA leaks will only cause majority of Americans to continue to believe even triple down on it's all a Chinese Hoax
 
on behalf of the human species i'm sorry mother Earth


mother-gaia.jpg


from here: http://humoncomics.com/mother-gaia
 

Kimawolf

Member
lol alright that is funny but true. Yeah nature adapts, we humans will be fucked though. And its not mysterious. We ALL know exactly what's going on. Its why I hope that CO2 capture technology takes off:

http://www.climatecentral.org/news/first-commercial-co2-capture-plant-live-21494


A Swiss company on Wednesday is set to become the world’s first to commercially remove carbon dioxide directly from the atmosphere and turn it into a useful product.

Climeworks, which will begin operations at a facility near Zurich, Switzerland, plans to compress the CO2 it captures and use it as fertilizer to grow crops in greenhouses. The company wants to dramatically scale its technology over the next decade, and its long-term goal is to capture 1 percent of global annual carbon dioxide emissions by 2025.
 

kess

Member
This is wonderful, and my only solace in all this. It'll still be really sad if we do something super catastrophic and wipe out 99% of the planet's species for millennia, but that's probably at the far end of the realm of possibility.

If 99% of the world's ecosystem gets wiped out, there won't be another 3 billion years to build it back up again.
 

robosllim

Member
If 99% of the world's ecosystem gets wiped out, there won't be another 3 billion years to build it back up again.
Eh, depending on how quickly the atmosphere, soil, and water got back to habitable levels, it shouldn't even take 500million years to rebuild. Getting from nothing to DNA was the hardest part, so as long as some small number of organisms survive, Earth will be fine.
 

womfalcs3

Banned
Saudi Arabia is a top-10 CO2 emitter in the world. Its use of crude oil and oil products in the power utilities and industry, as well as the advent of the cement industry, makes it a larger polluter than the size of its economy would indicate.

However, it is now in the process of reforming fuel and electricity prices. As this paper shows, doing so will facilitate the decline of the use of oil, the better use of natural gas, and the emergence of renewable power technologies.

We'll soon see CO2 emissions from Saudi Arabia retract.
 
The let's just not put as much out and pray method is stupid. We need a team of top engineers and scientists with a room full of money thrown at them to find a way to directly siphon CO2 from the atmosphere. It's much more likely we find a solution this way than with the current approach.
 

jufonuk

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The let's just not put as much out and pray method is stupid. We need a team of top engineers and scientists with a room full of money thrown at them to find a way to directly siphon CO2 from the atmosphere. It's much more likely we find a solution this way than with the current approach.
You make too much sense plus this would actually mean people having to Cooper with each other and work together equally sounds like communism .. sad
 
Do you think we'll see an emergence of CO2 eaters?


If the UN could pass a unilateral mandate that dictated all nations production facilities to use CO2 capture at all types of plants. That could have helped make things significantly better.


There are ways to capture CO2 out of the year and dose plants and other fauna to supergrow them. It's a crude simplification, but the idea is that you can expose much plant life (and animal life) with CO2 to make them grow. Massive levels of CO2 in the atmosphere during the periods of the Dinosaurs allowed animals and trees to grow to absurd sizes.

But the temperature would be unbearable for humans. It would be impossible to breath. It's possible that we'd die if we returned to that.

There was so much CO2 in the atmosphere in the Jurassic Era, that the largest dinosaurs, like the Brontosaurus variants like the Argentinasaurus became so big, that if they got any bigger, the pressure from their weight would exceed what their bone mass would be able to handle due to the force of gravity.
These beasts lived in a climate so abundance with greens that they'd eat 18-20 hours a day- Similar to modern Elephants. Only Elephants are 10x smaller.

One of the main ideas about teraforming mars is about harvesting the greenhouse effect by releasing lots of CO2 from melting the poles. People theorize that if you put heat shields that targeted the poles, the evaporation would cause CO2 to create a stable atmosphere for the surface of Mars. It would be thin, but over a 20-30 year timespan of sun reflection, it could become breathable similar to earth. Or that's the theory at least.



Figuring out what we can do with the C02 is going to be interesting. Can C02 captured from the air be combined with something to make solids? Imagine if it could be a build material we would put in our metals, ore and other materials? If we could recycle it in a different form.
 

Pomerlaw

Member

While I dig and get the general idea, something is wrong about this.

Mother Gaia has never been a gentle, beloving mother. Earth has never been and never will be a "naturally" sustainable environnement for humans, especially human societies.

All progress in our survival rate and way of life is due to our science and technology.

I'm not saying we should not take care of nature, don't ge me wrong. Just a point I wanted to add. We should not feel guilt because we use nature. We should only be ashamed when we use it incorrectly, for greed, without thinking about future consequences.

EDIT : There is also a Canadian company working on carbon capture : http://carbonengineering.com/about-a2f/
 
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