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DonMigs85 · Aug 18, 2017

http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2017/08/the-lion-king-mufasa-scar-not-brothers

Ugh, I hate it when they do casual retcons like this. I refuse to believe it.

Linkura · Aug 18, 2017

So now they're concerned about real-life accuracy when it's a fucking movie about talking animals.

strafer · Aug 18, 2017

Childhood ruined.

HiredN00bs · Aug 18, 2017

Shakespearean disallusion

RRockman · Aug 18, 2017

I mean that's ok. Backstabbing "friends" are very common in fiction and reality alike.

robotrock · Aug 18, 2017

it's not real

Oberon · Aug 18, 2017

Yeah, a movie about Zebras and Giraffes kneeling to a new born Lion is concerned about how realistic it is

Zap Rowsdower · Aug 18, 2017

Linkura said:
So now they're concerned about real-life accuracy when it's a fucking movie about talking animals.

In that case Scar shouldn't be the villain because killing the cubs of rival males is just what lions do.

Ydelnae · Aug 18, 2017

Coming up next week: 'The Lion King' is actually a dream by a 5 year old child named Simba that fell into a comma. These are the absolute proofs.

brawly · Aug 18, 2017

I'm thinking half brothers.

Krakn3Dfx · Aug 18, 2017

Didn't Simba refer to Scar as his uncle at some point?

It's been a long time since I've seen The Lion King.

Is this a Mandella Effect thing?

BreezyLimbo · Aug 18, 2017

Ive known that. They dont even look alike.

sixteen-bit · Aug 18, 2017

Will they be brothers in the remake?

Mortemis · Aug 18, 2017

Zap Rowsdower said:
In that case Scar shouldn't be the villain because killing the cubs of rival males is just what lions do.

Exactly. They should keep their real life accuracy at the door. I ain't here for that, I'm here for singing animals.

Rentahamster · Aug 18, 2017

Lions also don't give up meat for bugs, ya dingus.

ShyMel · Aug 18, 2017

Krakn3Dfx said:
Didn't Simba refer to Scar as his uncle at some point?

It's been a long time since I've seen The Lion King.

I'm fairly certain Simba did use the word uncle.

Zomba13 · Aug 18, 2017

And Timon and Pumba would be eaten by Simba because in the wild a lion cub would never be raised by a warthog and meercat who eat bugs and sing songs all day. Also animals can't talk or sing so really the whole movie is just a big lie and completely inaccurate to real life.

vypek · Aug 18, 2017

I thought I had heard a while back that one was adopted and that Scar's original name translated to "trash" or "garbage" or something like that

Maybe that was just some stupid post somewhere

Ratrat · Aug 18, 2017

Yeah, whatever. Its NOT a realistic movie. What it in fact is, is a ripoff of Kimba the White Lion and Hamlet.

Grizzlyjin · Aug 18, 2017

To be fair, they look nothing alike. Like about as dissimilar as you can be while still being male lions. The story works either way, Scar is your classic usurper

Emarv · Aug 18, 2017

Krakn3Dfx said:
Didn't Simba refer to Scar as his uncle at some point?

It's been a long time since I've seen The Lion King.

Is this a Mandella Effect thing?

Mufasa literally says "Brother, help me" at the biggest scene of the movie.

Linkura · Aug 18, 2017

Zomba13 said:
And Timon and Pumba would be eaten by Simba because in the wild a lion cub would never be raised by a warthog and meercat who eat bugs and sing songs all day. Also animals can't talk or sing so really the whole movie is just a big lie and completely inaccurate to real life.

This. The brothers thing is far from the least accurate thing in this movie.

Jesus christ why can't we just fucking enjoy a children's animated movie for what it is.

Trojita · Aug 18, 2017

And Nala would have been Simba's half sister.

Eylos · Aug 18, 2017

I remember Simba calling him uncle And Its suposed to be Hamlet story, so its an uncle.

Why they want to retcon this

PixelatedBookake · Aug 18, 2017

Emarv said:
Mufasa literally says "Brother, help me" at the biggest scene of the movie.

Lol yeah this makes no sense. Is this just so Simba's daughter wouldn't be marrying her cousin in the sequel? 🤔

KeyBladerXIII · Aug 18, 2017

You know how some people refuse to acknowledge George Lucas' Word of God because of something in Star Wars that they don't like?

That's where I am.

Krakn3Dfx · Aug 18, 2017

ShyMel said:
I'm fairly certain Simba did use the word uncle.

Not only that, I'm pretty sure Scar uses the term "Dear brother" on at least one occasion.

Edit: Beaten

WrenchNinja · Aug 18, 2017

If this was the case, there was no reason to make Kovu "Scar's chosen successor" instead of just making him his son.

Diabelli · Aug 18, 2017

"Scar and Mufasa arent related because a real lion pride would never include two related males."

But that's not true?

Vincent Alexander · Aug 18, 2017

Fucking awful. They are brothers. Done, and article forever forgotten.

HellforLeather · Aug 18, 2017

like....what exactly is the point of this revelation? Other than somewhat cheapening Scar as a villain to a (albeit, slight) degree?

Inferno313 · Aug 18, 2017

Ratrat said:
Yeah, whatever. Its NOT a realistic movie. What it in fact is, is a ripoff of Kimba the White Lion and Hamlet.

It's not a ripoff of Hamlet. It's an adaptation, a reworking, a reimagining of Hamlet. "Hamlet but with Lions" is the literal pitch of the movie.

The Kimba thing is BS, there's a few similar pieces of iconography. That's about it.

adj_noun · Aug 18, 2017

[While making the movie] we talked about the fact that it was very likely [Scar and Mufasa] would not have both the same parents, Hahn said. The way lions operate in the wildwhen the male lion gets old, another rogue lion comes and kills the head of the pride. What that does is it causes the female lions to go into heat [to reproduce], and then the new younger lion kills the king and then he kills all the babies. Now hes the new lion thats running the pride.

"There was always this thing about well, how do you have these two [male] lions? he continued. Occasionally there are prides that do have two male lions, in an interesting dynamic because theyre not equals [since they dont have the same parents]. One lion will always kind of be off in the shadows. We were trying to use those animal truths to underpin the story so we sort of figured Scar and Mufasa couldnt really be from the same gene pool."

I don't see this as quite the revelation the OMG! SCAR AND MUFASA NOT BROTHERS type article headlines would lead you to believe. They're just saying what their thought process during development was.

Oberon · Aug 18, 2017

PixelatedBookake said:
Lol yeah this makes no sense. Is this just so Simba's daughter wouldn't be marrying her cousin in the sequel? 🤔

Actually, that Lion wasn't Scars son. I think they say something like "he's not even scars son" at some point in the movie.
Actually, do we even see other male Lions in any of those movies?

Azuran · Aug 18, 2017

Millennials need to be stopped. This is getting out of control!

Rentahamster · Aug 18, 2017

I think I found my milkshake lion.

kewlmyc · Aug 18, 2017

PixelatedBookake said:
Lol yeah this makes no sense. Is this just so Simba's daughter wouldn't be marrying her cousin in the sequel? 🤔

That can't be it considering Simba and Lala are already related.

Jake2by4 · Aug 18, 2017

This is dumb why even bother saying this years later. They're brothers period.

Apzu · Aug 18, 2017

Trojita said:
And Nala would have been Simba's half sister.

Yep, this is a lot more disturbing than Mufasa and Scar being brothers. if they were going to retcon something, it should have been Nala.

StayDead · Aug 18, 2017

Delaney said:
Coming up next week: 'The Lion King' is actually a dream by a 5 year old child named Simba that fell into a comma. These are the absolute proofs.

Why does this matter. it's all in Tommy Westfalls head anyway.

Jmille99 · Aug 18, 2017

Krakn3Dfx said:
Didn't Simba refer to Scar as his uncle at some point?

Yes, i believe its the scene where he runs up and brags about how he is going to be king before Scar tells him about the elephant graveyard.

This is so dumb. Part of what made Scar a better villain was killing his brother and trying to kill his nephew. Removing that also lessens the impact of it all.

Fuzzy · Aug 18, 2017

Emarv said:
Mufasa literally says "Brother, help me" at the biggest scene of the movie.

He was just a big Hulk Hogan fan.

Skilletor · Aug 18, 2017

I never read this.

Yep. This didn't happen.

Jeels · Aug 18, 2017

They are doing a press tour for a Bluray release? I thought this was already released on bluray?

adj_noun · Aug 18, 2017

Jake2by4 said:
This is dumb why even bother saying this years later.

They're promoting the DVD/blu-ray re-release and presumably wanted something fresh to give in interviews.

Article writers then spun clickbait gold out of relatively benign straw.

Jeels said:
They are doing a press tour for a Bluray release? I thought this was already released on bluray?

It's getting released again. Got a live action movie to look ahead to.

IdreamofHIME · Aug 18, 2017

Obviously. One was a black American and the other a white English dude.

RiderKairuu · Aug 18, 2017

Man, nature is depressing.

The Artisan · Aug 18, 2017

daviyoung · Aug 18, 2017

Since Lion King is just Hamlet with animals then they're brothers.

Eye for an Eye · Aug 18, 2017

Trojita said:
And Nala would have been Simba's half sister.

I ruined a few people's world with that revelation. You can't really prove otherwise.

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