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Elex |OT| Gothic 5: Risen From Jank
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Moff
Member
no they are not.
I rebound E. standard is I think special attack and I rebound E to sprint, it's definitely possible.
the locked keys are context sensitive, the locked E is for menu only. you can rebind it, don't worry.
WaterAstro
Member
So I never played Gothic games. How does the story compare to other RPG franchise?
TheChewyWaffles
Member
I've always enjoyed them more than average RPG fare. Their worlds always feel a bit more lived in, for some reason.
arts&crafts
Member
What is "cold" and does it affect much? Should I focus on being pure "cold' or pure "warm" in terms of interactions? I assume this is the games "good and evil"
loganclaws
Plane Escape Torment
Try rebinding E to move forward and let me know how that goes...
Audioboxer
Member
WaterAstro
Member
I guess I should check it out.
Stranger In The Alps
Member
I'll preface this post by saying I first played Gothic 2 and Risen 3 in 2014 and loved both of them. When I first learned about this game nothing made any sense. The graphics looked like a huge step back from Risen 3, the combat and ranged gunplay looked terrible and the mishmash of genres used to create the setting made absolutely no sense to me. Despite my love for their previous work, I was afraid Piranha Bytes had lost me with this one. After reading the OT this morning during a stressful 8 hour trip, I loaded up steam on my mobile device and bought it, thinking, I'm having a terrible day, why not?
No joke: this may actually be my GOTY.
According to Steam I am about 3 hours in and this game has completely gripped me where other open world rpgs have failed. The world the developers have created here and the struggle between the factions that inhabit it create a true sense of freedom and player agency. From the very first dialogue choice you are given, you are made aware that nearly every decision you make in this game will make a meaningful impact; not only on the living, breathing world and its inhabitants, but also on the type of experience you will have throughout the entire game. Want to play a gunslinging badass outlaw? There's a faction for that. Want to play a battlemage, switching freely between destructive magic and brutal melee combat? There's a faction for that too. Ultimately, your experience and playstyle will be shaped by your own decisions.
I may be in the minority here, but I think this game is absolutely beautiful. Not every texture or piece of geometry is perfect, but there is some insane lighting and shader work that has made my jaw drop on a few occasions. Performance has also been absolutely rock solid on a GTX 1070 and 6600K with everything maxed at 1080p.
There are, of course, some negatives. Combat can take a while to get used to, animations can be jerky and the ui is atrocious. There are clearly some bugs to be worked out, and everything can sometimes feel like it is all slapped together with duct tape.
But somehow, despite all of these things, it works.
No joke: this may actually be my GOTY.
According to Steam I am about 3 hours in and this game has completely gripped me where other open world rpgs have failed. The world the developers have created here and the struggle between the factions that inhabit it create a true sense of freedom and player agency. From the very first dialogue choice you are given, you are made aware that nearly every decision you make in this game will make a meaningful impact; not only on the living, breathing world and its inhabitants, but also on the type of experience you will have throughout the entire game. Want to play a gunslinging badass outlaw? There's a faction for that. Want to play a battlemage, switching freely between destructive magic and brutal melee combat? There's a faction for that too. Ultimately, your experience and playstyle will be shaped by your own decisions.
I may be in the minority here, but I think this game is absolutely beautiful. Not every texture or piece of geometry is perfect, but there is some insane lighting and shader work that has made my jaw drop on a few occasions. Performance has also been absolutely rock solid on a GTX 1070 and 6600K with everything maxed at 1080p.
There are, of course, some negatives. Combat can take a while to get used to, animations can be jerky and the ui is atrocious. There are clearly some bugs to be worked out, and everything can sometimes feel like it is all slapped together with duct tape.
But somehow, despite all of these things, it works.
When people say the UI is atrocious, are they just talking about the aesthetics or are they talking about actual functionality? I don't really care about aesthetics but an efficient and usable UI is pretty essential in an RPG. Skyrim had a very slick and fancy-looking UI but it was awful to actually use. If Elex has the opposite problem, I'd be perfectly okay with that.
Stranger In The Alps
Member
It's an awful combination of both. The game uses a really ugly menu for all inventory and quest related information. It's all just a bunch of menus and submenus that are offensive on both an aesthetic and functionality level.
texhnolyze
Banned
The HUD looks better on gamepad mode with everything in corners.
Speaking of, how good is the gamepad support in this game? I watched ACG review for a bit but I'm not sure if that's on PC/XB1.
The description of the video doesn't help either.
It natively supports the Xbox controller as I'm playing on PC with one. Works perfectly with the controller.
Same. Turned it down a couple of notches, and it's perfect.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Finally got a partner. I'm not sure exactly where I went, but I ran into an Alb who was also exiled. He ended up joining me.
In terms of world-design, it's fantastic.
Every location is interesting, instead of the cut & paste nonsense that plagues Oblivion and Skyrim.
In terms of world-design, it's fantastic.
Every location is interesting, instead of the cut & paste nonsense that plagues Oblivion and Skyrim.
Moff
Member
you're definitely right. weird, I wonder if this a bug or if they have a reason to let you rebind E for some actions but not for others.
Was wondering the same, thought it could be skipped but I imagine it's pretty hard to level outside of Edan at the start so it still makes me wonder.
The other zones might have beginner friendly enemies and quests but I get the feeling that might not be the case. Would be awesome if it was though and I can just go straight to Tovar.
Fucking. Hell. I had no idea this game existed. How?
I LOVE Risen. Risen II. Risen III.
Varying qualities sure but I loved that series. I even enjoyed other dev eurojank like Arcania and Venetica (seriously) because I loved Risen so much.
Jank me up with your jetpacks, PB. Take my $60.
I LOVE Risen. Risen II. Risen III.
Varying qualities sure but I loved that series. I even enjoyed other dev eurojank like Arcania and Venetica (seriously) because I loved Risen so much.
Jank me up with your jetpacks, PB. Take my $60.
Streamed it for about an hour; did some exploring and then some boring stuff in town.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/183105308
I have yet to figure out combat... my stamina bar depletes so fast that I'm stuck just staring at the enemy.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/183105308
I have yet to figure out combat... my stamina bar depletes so fast that I'm stuck just staring at the enemy.
DarKshodaN
Member
man this game is pretty great, exploring the world is so much fun
Yeah I upgraded my stamina the first thing I did. It depletes so fast.
As soon as I activated the teleport of the Berserker Factions, I went on the mission to find the Albs separatists. Oh that Piranha feeling of running from everything and everyone was sorely missed. I even got to kill two Albs, but only with the help of some found Alb spells. Then I finally went to the Berserker city and holy shit, this is actually bigger than expected.
I'm trying to get 50 intelligence first because I saw a trainer in Goliet (toilet?) has training for "gain +1 attribute on every level up". Gotta max them stats!
Corleth the Fey
Member
Not yet apparently, that's coming soon.
But it does seem remarkably clean on my Pro - like it's supersampling, and I'm sure even if it's just boost mode the unlocked framerate is at the smooth end of 'up to 60 FPS' much more than it is down the bottom end.
I'm meaning to install it on my normal PS4 today to see if there are any meaningful differences.
You just had to go and say that, didn't you lol. Now I'll have to do the same thing. If there are items that give a permanent bonus on intelligence my early game will be very tough.
I remember running around the world in gothic 3 to find stone tablets that increase ancient knowledge so I could learn the perk to gain extra points on levelup on level 1. That was interesting.
edit: Anyone know of a list of all perks online? Might as well plan out my character a bit while I'm bored at work.
I'm loving how open this is but it's giving me choice anxiety 
I'm only about an hour in at the first town. The first real story mission (Find out who murdered that bloke) seems to be a tour around the area you start in. I figure that is as good a place as any to start. Is that a good idea?
Playing this on my PC and it's running lovely. Fast and smooth. Bit annoying when the AI just stands there and lets you die but hopefully that'll get patched fairly quickly.
I'm only about an hour in at the first town. The first real story mission (Find out who murdered that bloke) seems to be a tour around the area you start in. I figure that is as good a place as any to start. Is that a good idea?
Playing this on my PC and it's running lovely. Fast and smooth. Bit annoying when the AI just stands there and lets you die but hopefully that'll get patched fairly quickly.
Ouch. I might go for that too, but my first 30 points have not gone towards Intelligence. I wonder if it's retroactive.
GunslingerVit
Banned
Elex - Breasts of the Wind
His Majesty
Banned
Even the Codex seems to like it.
JustSomeone
Member
Even? Gothic 2 was in their top 10 RPGs of all time
It was meant as a positive you know...
His Majesty
Banned
Risen 2 and 3 on the other hand weren't received so well over there. So it seems ELEX is a step 'back' in the good direction.
Soulblighter31
Banned
JustSomeone
Member
They haven't made a new poll since then, but it was a few years ago and gothic 2 was 10th place.
I assume D:OS1/2 or PoE would kick it outside if they were making another poll today, but who knows.
His Majesty
Banned
lol
PoE will never ever make a Codex top-10 list. Wasn't even in their top-10 for best RPG of 2015 afaik.
publicpwnerer
Member
I'm currently downloading the game now. For those that've reviewed the game or played for quite some time, is magic / ranged fighting a viable fighting style, or do they merely accentuate melee combat?
I've always preferred to go for the more exotic playstyle in RPG's, that often start out weak then end up being rather absurd end-game.
I've always preferred to go for the more exotic playstyle in RPG's, that often start out weak then end up being rather absurd end-game.
Absolutely and deservedly so.
PoE? Very unlikely. Codex doesn't like it that much. Original Sin, yeah, maybe. Gothic 2 was 9th place, btw.
I'm about two hours in and I'm really liking it so far. I absolutely hate the exposition, the duuuuumb names and the UI/Inventory is a real bummer but other than that, yeah, it seems pretty good and reminds me of classic Gothic.
The amount of hidden places I found between the starting point and the first city is really impressive. They don't reuse locations either, everything feels hand-crafted and unique, lots of verticality, too.
If they can keep the quality of the world throughout the entire game, then this just might be the best world PB ever created. At least when it comes to exploration.
Everything else really feels like a Gothic game. The dialogs (I'm playing the German version), the settlement and its NPCs, the way the player organically receives quests and directions (I don't think there are quest markers in this game), faction armors, etc.
I had a feeling Elex would turn out better than Risen 2 and 3 but so far it exceeds my expectations.
There are definitely quest markers. They even point to every single item I needed to fetch for a fetch quest. You can turn them off I think, though.
This sounds wise. I'll probably end up doing the same. The skill that grants you extra health per level seems good too. Still dont know what faction to chose. Its between berserker and outlaws since I dont want to be in some religious cult for RP reasons, even tho PSI powers sounds cool. Waiting for more impressions regarding outlaw faction, gunplay and berserker magic. Looking for something that makes combat the least tedious since melee so far to me feels like shit (and gets you easily killed).