Yep, hope the DICE devs on here at least see that.
Commander mode, three factions, battlerecorder and 64 players on consoles, 1080p & 60fps sounds terrible? What?
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Yep, hope the DICE devs on here at least see that.
Commander mode, three factions, battlerecorder and 64 players on consoles, 1080p & 60fps sounds terrible? What?
GoddyofAus
Banned
Dude, 1 year development cycle? Dumbing down for the COD crowd? No amount of players, pixels or frames is gonna make that shit tolerable.
TalesOfWin
Banned
and female soldiers!
BF3 development spent most of the time with writing the engine. This time they already have the engine.
Opus Angelorum
Member
Two years, one of them being pre-production.
It's already been over a year since BF3, I wouldn't be too worried about that first one.
If you took that literally it would mean they showed everyone something that was 2-3 months in development last week.
Battlefield 3 took so long because they were building a new engine and assets. BF4 undoubtedly has been in pre-production since BF3 came out - the "1 year dev cycle" refers to ramped up production.
The game was shown to retailers a few weeks ago. There's no way that they had the game in a presentable state after only a few months of work.
/edit: *Sigh* Beaten...
GoddyofAus
Banned
Even 2 years seems like a pretty short time for a game of Battlefields scope.
Jibbajabbawockky
Member
I just don't go to BF games for single player.
I enjoyed BF1942 back in the day when the single player was basically going through all of the battles of WWII in chronological order with bots. Just being able to play the maps with bots to practice would be good enough for me with single player.
2002 Battlefield 1942
2004 Battlefield Vietnam
2005 Battlefield 2
2006 Battlefield 2142
2008 Battlefield: Bad Company
2010 Battlefield: Bad Company 2
2011 Battlefield 3
2013 Battlefield 4
PlayALLtheGames
Banned
They better scrap the bullshit party voice chat system for PC.
You should be able to talk to anyone in your squad when you join a server, not have to start a fucking "party" game. Nobody I know plays BF3, so I can't join party games. That means I'm running around every match trying to type shit to my squad on a keyboard and dying immediately. There's no communication, no collaboration; everyone is just running around by themselves. It completely defeats the purpose of a squad.
DICE's excuse for this dumbass system in BF3 was that it's better because chat is persistent, but that's bullshit because PC players already had a million 3rd party programs available if they wanted persistent chat.
You should be able to talk to anyone in your squad when you join a server, not have to start a fucking "party" game. Nobody I know plays BF3, so I can't join party games. That means I'm running around every match trying to type shit to my squad on a keyboard and dying immediately. There's no communication, no collaboration; everyone is just running around by themselves. It completely defeats the purpose of a squad.
DICE's excuse for this dumbass system in BF3 was that it's better because chat is persistent, but that's bullshit because PC players already had a million 3rd party programs available if they wanted persistent chat.
BattleMonkey
Member
With the engine done, not really especially seeing other games going with yearly installments.
Need to keep on quoting this when people think 2 years is short for a Battlefield game. DICE are a phenomenally productive studio.
Not even close.
Edit: Nirolak got it. As Biggzy said, DICE is a large and talented studio. They can churn out fantastic games with great time. It's never been an issue for them before, and I doubt it will be for BF4.
GoddyofAus
Banned
Well I must be wearing orthopedic shoes, because I stand corrected.
TalesOfWin
Banned
DICE is also a very large dev studio. They have the resources.
They also had spent the equivalent of 20 years building Frostbite 2's toolchain by 2010 with efficiency primarily in mind (it actually got more employee time put into it than any other engine feature) so I'm sure they can make content quite efficiently these days to boot.
Yes they're 300 people now IIRC.
BattleMonkey
Member
Yea if they can add on stuff like commander and such, all good. Also hopefully launch with good maps. Bf3 launched with mediocre to bad maps, but the dlc maps have all restored my faith in their ability to make fun maps.
The Smoking Bun
Banned
DICE should call this came Battletits 4 and the cover would be a hot chick in camo short shorts and sports top holding up an RPG-7 with tanks and helicopters in the background.
Seriously though, I LOVE Battlefield 3, the only shoot-bang multiplayer I enjoy and it will be interesting to see the reactions to having female troops.
Good litmus test for a player's maturity.
EDIT:
HOLY SHIT!! Remember when they made that FPS with near-zero gunplay that was about running and jumping on beautiful rooftops like Spider-man and had that portal song?
Seriously though, I LOVE Battlefield 3, the only shoot-bang multiplayer I enjoy and it will be interesting to see the reactions to having female troops.
Good litmus test for a player's maturity.
EDIT:
HOLY SHIT!! Remember when they made that FPS with near-zero gunplay that was about running and jumping on beautiful rooftops like Spider-man and had that portal song?
People should relax over the 2 year development period for Battlefield 4. Dice has the resources and the talent to pull it off.
Don't forget 60 fps, if this rumor is true.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
I'm hopping for custom characters but I know it won't happen.
just hope the character models are better than 3.
just hope the character models are better than 3.
OrlanisWorks
Banned
Don't forget about microtransactions
If they repair what was wrong with BF3, ill buy it a year or so post-release. BF3 conquest was shit though, so I have huge doubts.
If they repair what was wrong with BF3, ill buy it a year or so post-release. BF3 conquest was shit though, so I have huge doubts.
I've never understood people's whining when it comes to microtransactions. They are optional, and are there for those who want to shell out the cash for them. What's the issue? If anything, microtransactions in BF4 will be things like dogtags or weapon camos.
People still do play single player games you know, i know its so 90's and all that but many people still do including me, in fact i much prefer a varied story driven campaign over running around maps shooting people then get shot and respawn and do it all again.
Even when that SP is terrible and adds nothing to the game? It might be better in BF4 but they don't have a good track record.
DICE need to step-up their game for the single player, it was lackluster in BF3.
Rawket Lawnchair
Member
Will wait for the inevitable Premium edition.
This... #1 Reason I stopped playing it and got sucked into COD at least randoms could attempt to communicate and set up some basic strategy.
Or it could be for double XP, or improved armor etc... Microtransaction have no space in a paid retail copy of anything.
I doubt EA is going to give a map pack away for free to those that pre order this time.
Premium will be available form the start with BF4 if you're willing to buy it.
OrlanisWorks
Banned
True that. I wasn't necessarily complaining, It really doesnt make much of a difference in cases of camos and that decorative stuff. I just felt like pointing it out. I guess it was implied that I hate it. I kinda do, but not enough to drive me angry. Overall, you're pretty much correct.
As long as it doesnt become "pay to win" or whatever. They're smart enough to avoid that, I think.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
In brief, they offer financial incentives for bad game design.
Even then, a very large % of pc users still uses 60hz monitors. Good luck noticing 100fps on those.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
There are benefits to framerates higher than what the monitor can display...
RukusProvider
Banned
Yep. This is why I stopped playing.
A game focused ok teamwork yet you take away the biggest element for communication.
TalesOfWin
Banned
the sci-fi setting is used as much as the modern imo. There isnt a single setting that is unique these days.
UnluckyKate
Member
CoD audience bro...
Doesn't matter if it's unique or not, it's about what you can do with gameplay
With modern style you have your standard weapons and standard vehicles. You dont have jetpacks, low gravity, railguns, spaceships, mechs...
If by "step-up their game" you mean "don't bother with it at all," then you're absolutely correct!
If it meant more maps for multiplayer, I agree. However, there is going to be a singleplayer so it might as well be decent.
Sci Fi was basically murdered all through last gen and early this gen. When CoD4 went modern it was like a breath of fresh air at the time.
You will probably get an answer to this on March 26th.
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