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adamsapple · Jul 10, 2017

Sn4ke_911 said:
Wow, look at the fingers.

Source: http://www.hardcoregamer.com/2017/07/10/final-fantasy-xii-face-off-ps4-vs-ps2/264672/

Amazing upgrade, well done SE.

Thankfully they're using the highest quality cut-scene model through out the game.

Myriadis · Jul 10, 2017

Iirc, the members not in the party didn't get any exp, but license points. Has this changed?

Deleted member 57681 · Jul 10, 2017

I asked before (not that it's a pressing issue lol), but are the 3D models in the bestiary new as well or have they been in IZJS already?

Hippopuncher12 · Jul 10, 2017

So did the IZJS version have new weapons and armor the original didn't?

Nista · Jul 10, 2017

aravuus said:
Which classes can steal?

I don't know about classes, but Vaan had it from the get go on his board, as well as an upgrade to Poach.

I was using this spreadsheet I found to plan job combos, though there's some older naming left in it.
Zodiac Age Planner

Deleted member 57681 · Jul 10, 2017

Son Of D said:
Also to OP, I had these images ready if you wanted to include them in the OT:

Standard, Limited and Collector's Edition Images:

That's the old pic of the CE fyi, it looks like this now:

Ourobolus · Jul 10, 2017

Hippopuncher12 said:
So did the IZJS version have new weapons and armor the original didn't?

There are new "ultimate weapons" that are added. In the NA version you would have the Aldebaran gun, but now you have that AND the Aldebaran Y that you can get through materials/the bazaar.

There are also a couple "hidden" ridiculous weapons that require some pretty insane RNG/luck to get. They are Trango Tower (1h-Sword), Seitengrate (Bow) and Gendarme (Shield).

OmegaDL50 · Jul 10, 2017

Hippopuncher12 said:
So did the IZJS version have new weapons and armor the original didn't?

This is correct.

A significant majority of the changes that Zodiac Age is advertising as "new" existed even in the PS2 IZJS release.

The truly new, new stuff in TZA is the upgraded graphics, remastered audio, and the dual job class thing. Everything else was already in the IZJS version.

Rad- · Jul 10, 2017

Here's a good video if you want to choose jobs partly based on how cool they look on different characters:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pJn96BXo8Y

Those Penelo animations... someone for the love of god teach this girl how to handle weapons. Well at least her spear one is kind of cute. Uhlan Penelo or bust.

Rizzi · Jul 10, 2017

Should I just sell all the loot items I get from monsters?

aravuus · Jul 10, 2017

ObsidianG said:
I think machinist and archer can, but Vaan and Balthier came with the skill in IZJS. Don't know if that changed in the Zodiac Age.

Nista said:
I don't know about classes, but Vaan had it from the get go on his board, as well as an upgrade to Poach.

Oh nice, thanks! Just wanted to make sure Vaan gets steal, but it looks like I can make him anything I want.

I must be one of the very few here who actually likes controlling Vaan for the majority of the game.

Ourobolus · Jul 10, 2017

Rizzi said:
Should I just sell all the loot items I get from monsters?

Yes. You'll want to sell everything except Teleport Gems. Selling monster items opens up stuff to buy in the Bazaar.

Rizzi · Jul 10, 2017

Ourobolus said:
Yes. You'll want to sell everything except Teleport Gems. Selling monster items opens up stuff to buy in the Bazaar.

Thanks.

Jakartalado · Jul 10, 2017

Native 1440p? Really?

What happen Square? Kingdom Hearts looks so amazing at 4k. Was kind of expecting the same treatment here.

Nista · Jul 10, 2017

Rizzi said:
Should I just sell all the loot items I get from monsters?

You want to, to unlock bazaar items including the version specific weapons. Bazaar

UpDownLeftRight · Jul 10, 2017

Just curious but is the class system going to break my ability to play through it like I did before? For instance can I:

Run a team of all greatsword users?

LATE GAME BOSS SPOILERS

Run Tiamat on gambits alone?

Use the white mask (?) and twin healers to survive Omega mk XII?

My previous playthrough had basically everyone set up in a complex network of heals and buffs being applied by everyone at different percentages of damage and it sounds like people will have to specialise in IZJS?

ZiggyPalffyLA · Jul 10, 2017

Einhandr said:
This Reddit link is useful as well

https://www.reddit.com/r/FinalFanta...b_party_optimization/?st=J4YC0LZL&sh=fe840946

Can someone just tell me which jobs to choose for each character for maxed stats and combat optimization?

LordOfLore · Jul 10, 2017

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1403871 DF thread.

Drahcir · Jul 10, 2017

Still waiting for Amazon to restock the steelbook.

Will they?

Bolivar687 · Jul 10, 2017

Is the camera still inverted?

OmegaDL50 · Jul 10, 2017

ZiggyPalffyLA said:
Can someone just tell me which jobs to choose for each character for maxed stats and combat optimization?

Vaan - Shikari / Foebreaker
Penelo - Monk / Blackmage
Balthier - Whitemage / Machinist
Fran - Red Battlemage / Archer
Basch - Knight / Bushi
Ashe - Time Battlemage / Uhlan

Not only are these apparently the most optimized class configuration they are lore friendly if you care for that sort of thing.

RayCharlizard · Jul 10, 2017

11 hours, 34 minutes til unlock on my PS4, can't waaaaaait. Just finished the FFXV episode DLC in preparation and have been playing FFXIV a bit.

Stalactite · Jul 10, 2017

Great OT and title.

The long wait is almost over, my copy from Amazon should be here sometime tomorrow. I haven't been planning my team at all, so I guess I should go ahead and do that. I plan on using everyone.

Vincent Grayson · Jul 10, 2017

AndersK said:
A lore friendly and fairly optimized guide for including all 12 jobs: https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/191202-final-fantasy-xii-the-zodiac-age/75403072

Lore-friendly in the extent that Balthier is a machinist, Fran an archer etc.

Ooh, I like this. I might have to give that a shot, since I'm not concerned about being perfectly optimized.

Xaero Gravity · Jul 10, 2017

Drahcir said:
Still waiting for Amazon to restock the steelbook. Will they?

I've heard no, at least in Canada. It's sold out everywhere with the only the standard edition available now.

Reule · Jul 10, 2017

Anyone get shipping confirmation from Gamestop? Have Day 1 delivery and nothin' so far.

Ermac · Jul 10, 2017

Is there anywhere I can still get the Steelbook online? Is it a preorder only thing, or could I show up to Best Buy tomorrow and find one?

Ourobolus · Jul 10, 2017

UpDownLeftRight said:
Just curious but is the class system going to break my ability to play through it like I did before? For instance can I:

Run a team of all greatsword users?

LATE GAME BOSS SPOILERS

Run Tiamat on gambits alone?

Use the white mask (?) and twin healers to survive Omega mk XII?

My previous playthrough had basically everyone set up in a complex network of heals and buffs being applied by everyone at different percentages of damage and it sounds like people will have to specialise in IZJS?

I killed everything in IZJS (except for Yiazmat, which...I could have, just didn't want to spend the time) with my party, so yes, it's possible.

aravuus · Jul 10, 2017

Jesus fucking christ is it hard to decide on everyone's jobs. Currently planning on going with the following:

Vaan - Hunter/Breaker
Basch - Hunter/Samurai
Balthier - Knight/Time mage
Ashe - Hunter/White mage
Penelo - Black mage/Monk
Fran - White mage/Machinist

So pretty much just the "god tier" combinations from the GF thread. Haven't thought of Espers at all, though, but I think I'll manage.

On my second playthrough, whenever that happens, I'll just go the randomizer route lmao. This is too much.

L.O.R.D · Jul 10, 2017

question about the PS2 version of the game,if i have the PS2 version and also have a PS2 backward compatible PS3,will the game launch on PS3? and people will see me that i am playing this game on PS3?

jon bones · Jul 10, 2017

im so glad my day started with my finding out this drops tmrw

been trying to plan my party.... shit is tough 😂

Ponn · Jul 10, 2017

Jackstin said:
I really liked the combinations they used in that video they posted a while ago. It felt like the 'canon' jobs setup. But now I can't find the video, anyone know what I'm talking about. The set up was roughly...

Vaan - Hunter / ???
Penelo - White Mage / Monk
Ashe - Time Mage / Red Mage
Basch - Knight / Uhlan
Balthier - Machinist / ???
Fran - Archer / Black Mage

I like that list except for Ashe. It's been a long time since I played this but I remember Ashe being a very capable fighter. I never played the Zodiac version either so I probably need to relearn everything anyways.

I'm waiting near my door tomorrow and as soon as I see the delivery driver pull up Im gonna start playing Theme of the Empire as he walks up to the door.

ObsidianG · Jul 10, 2017

ZiggyPalffyLA said:
Can someone just tell me which jobs to choose for each character for maxed stats and combat optimization?

These two Gfaq Threads were very useful to me when I was theory crafting by teams (first one is optimized, and second one is lore friendly):

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/191202-final-fantasy-xii-the-zodiac-age/75477310
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/191202-final-fantasy-xii-the-zodiac-age/75403072

The first thread is really nice, and covers how to take advantage of the best spells in the game (Holy with Black mage staff, Ardor & Burning Bow, Ninja Blade / Katanas with genji gloves)

Saven · Jul 10, 2017

Since we got less than a day left to play this again, let's all remember the FFXII potion commercial.

Apparently these tasted like shit.

Kazuhira · Jul 10, 2017

Rizzi said:
Should I just sell all the loot items I get from monsters?

You may need to be a little careful because you could find some rare loot ingredients for the best weapons just by chance.
It's a pain in the ass to farm that shit without knowing if you already sold it and/or wasn't used to craft another weapon you didn't want to.
For example,one of the items for The Tournesol is Gemsteel(x3) and each one of those require like another 3 very rare items and each one of these require 2 or 3 rare items,do you see what i mean?
It's a good idea to keep a track of what loot you have or sold.
This is from my experience,i remember wasting hours and hours farming one of these gemsteels saying 'just one left!' and i totally forgot that i already sold one a long time ago.

StormBrute · Jul 10, 2017

Question: When in the game do you unlock the ability to select your second job? I'm assuming it's after a certain boss or dungeon not too far in, but I would like to be certain.

FinalAres · Jul 10, 2017

Ponn said:
I like that list except for Ashe. It's been a long time since I played this but I remember Ashe being a very capable fighter. I never played the Zodiac version either so I probably need to relearn everything anyways.

I'm waiting near my door tomorrow and as soon as I see the delivery driver pull up Im gonna start playing Theme of the Empire as he walks up to the door.

So for me it's lore reasons. She's a time Mage in either Revenant Wings or Tactics A2, i forget which. Maybe both.

MaximumSpider · Jul 10, 2017

Amazon shipped mine yesterday. Oh boy oh boy.

OrionX · Jul 10, 2017

"In this definitive edition of FFXII, players can enjoy Vaan's epic journey through Ivalice once again, now with new and improved abs to enhance the experience!"

Drahcir · Jul 10, 2017

Xaero Gravity said:
I've heard no, at least in Canada. It's sold out everywhere with the only the standard edition available now.

Darn. I guess standard edition it is then!

ActStriker · Jul 10, 2017

My Steelbook should be arriving tomorrow, but I won't have time to play it until after Comic Con, unfortunately.

The Xtortionist · Jul 10, 2017

StormBrute said:
Question: When in the game do you unlock the ability to select your second job? I'm assuming it's after a certain boss or dungeon not too far in, but I would like to be certain.

After Belias.

bigbaldwolf86 · Jul 10, 2017

I'm not too bothered about optimal jobs for people. I'll have Ashe as my main frontline knight with balthier and Fran with me as well.

Caim · Jul 10, 2017

Came across this picture that was done for IZJS and I might make a team like this.

I wish they "showed' the jobs for the rest of the characters in the picture though.

StormBrute · Jul 10, 2017

The Xtortionist said:
After Belias.

Alright, that's around where I expected it would be. Thank you!

Niks · Jul 10, 2017

Saven said:
Since we got less than a day left to play this again, let's all remember the FFXII potion commercial.

Haha first time seeing this.

Kirie · Jul 10, 2017

I think this is what I'll be going with:

Vaan: Hunter/Breaker
Penelo: Monk/Black Mage
Balthier: Machinist/White Mage
Fran: Archer/Red Mage
Ashe: Knight/Time Mage
Basch: Samurai/Uhlan

Amazon.ca says it'll be here tomorrow, can't wait

Confusion Illusion · Jul 10, 2017

I purchased mine from Amazon US and it says it will arrive on the 20th. Look forward to revisit FFXII again. I still have the vanilla PS2 version which I was playing 10 years ago this time.

jon bones · Jul 10, 2017

OK I've settled on White Mage / Machinist for Balthier

one down...

maybe Black Mage / Monk for Ashe?

do peoples clothes change with their jobs? gotta make sure ashe is lookin right

LegendofLex · Jul 10, 2017

This is my plan, going mostly based off my perception of the lore for this playthrough:

Vaan: Hunter/Foebreaker
Penelo: Monk/White Mage
Balthier: Machinist/Time Battlemage
Fran: Archer/Black Mage
Ashe: Either Knight or Uhlan/Red Battlemage
Basch: Either Knight or Uhlan/Bushi

Gonna probably agonize forever over the Ashe/Basch job casting choices.

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