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The sad truth about Steam Sales...

MRORANGE

Member
Over the past few years Steam users have been noticing that the Steam sales were not were they used to be, aka "50% is the new 75%" but it's more than that, Steam or Valve however have dropped the ball, yes they will rake in millions but Steam has lost its touch on what made the sale so special in the first place. These main factors below are what make a Steam Sale special and make me willing to spend cash.

Publishers got smart.
Long story short the publisher, especially Triple A studios realised that they were under pricing games on PC, its a known fact that PC games have increased in RRP by 33% to be closer to console tier pricing on launch day and this has carried out in sales. For example a game like SFIV was 29.99 at launch, during a steam sale you would see a 75% drop to 7.50. Compare that to SFV which is 34.99 at launch and is now on sale for 50% instead for 17.49. Devs are playing the game in a big way, we are no longer going to see those crazy 75-90% deals like we used to see on Steam.

Stagnant discounts
It used to be that Steam would update games on a daily basis with new deals to cling you on day by day. Heck at one point deals would be updated every 8 hours -24/7. With Steam's new approach of showing all the deals its very easy to shift through everything in one day and just pick stuff you want and ignore all the rest. What I liked about the shorter deals was the impulse buy effect, these games were cheaper than the normal deals and gave people incentive to check every few hours or so.

You probably own everything already.
Another complication is that most of us have game libraries already in the hundreds or even thousands on Steam already, we are reaching a point in where we are becoming quite picky on what we buy and having to shift through the all the games that some guy has made in his bedroom that nobody really cares about. It is getting harder to find gems in the massive shovel-ware of indie and low budget titles and its going to get harder and harder to find games you want.

Steam sales are no longer fun
Remember when publishers did Christmas special events? Remember you could craft items into games? Remember when you could use cards to trade for stuff? Remember Game specific Achievements during sales? Well its all gone now, Steam was way ahead of its time with this and it made the Steam sale into a mini game in itself. However over the past couple of years Steam has moved away from that to smaller events or just collecting badges which offer very little incentive to check the store every day.



There are a lot of other reasons, but for me these were the main ones for me not spending so much on Steam over the past couple of years, even services outside of steam such as Amazon and gmg are dropping the ball. I think its due to devs finally realising that DD is the future and want tighter controls on pricing.
 

Afrodium

Banned
I think another large factor is that digital marketplaces have really taken off on consoles, so now digital discounts tend to be the same across the board. It doesn't make sense for a publisher to give a game a deeper price cut on one digital marketplace than another.
 

Kayhan

Member
The main thing is that I already own most of the games I want.

And the newer ones aren't discounted heavily enough yet.

From $60 to $30-40 just isn't good enough.
 

True Fire

Member
Buying games as a "game" in itself was never a sustainable model.

Steam manipulated gamers' senses to sell them more games, like casinos manipulate gamblers into giving up more money.
 
The first 3 points well yeah companies were sick of people playing the game they didn't want them to play. I didn't want to say "No shit" either :v.

Steam Sales were never fun. Playing games is fun.

I don't miss dailies either, now I know what the price of something is right at the start and don't have to worry about it. Buying games you have no interest in just to buy them never made nor will make sense unless you just like digital libraries with a number going up. Just buy some games you want to play or at least have a passing interest in and be done. you don't have to own everything.

I thought this was going to be about buying games and not playing them.

People still do that anyway.
 

gdt

Member
My life doesn't revolve around a sale. It's a little worse than before, but it is what it is. I still buy games I want for cheap, just maybe not as cheap as before.
 

Kouriozan

Member
It's true that before I checked every 8 hours for new deals but now I check quickly everything then I'm done with the sales.
Also there was stuff like those "mini-games" that made you connect to Steam pretty often, now I don't care about cards.
 

HowZatOZ

Banned
Throw in the fact I can get launch games for much cheaper through other marketplaces like Green Man and I have no reason to buy on Steam. The last game I actually bought through Steam was PUBG, and before that I can't actually remember. There is no point when competition is so high and Steam doesn't encourage competitive pricing.

Also Australia gets fucked hard because we have to pay in USD.
 
1-3 were unavoidable, but really shame is #4. Valve themselves doesn't really put in the effort to make this the event it was, and doesn't engage developers enough in it. That's something that can be fixed, if they really want to.

As to one not finding anything to buy. It might be hard if you're looking for specific games, but if you really just want to find new great games cheap, there are many great deals. Several of my Steam favorites are dirt cheap on Steam during this sale, and previous sales, but have still sold peanuts.
 

Kandrick

GAF's Ed McMahon
Steam sales have been bad for a few years now. You can buy games for less than they are on a steam sale from legit websites all year round, don't even need to wait for Steam's own sale!

The only games i buy on Steam are the ones that i feel like i might use the refund option. Doesn't help that prices in my country ( Switzerland ) got all over the place since they introduced my local currency on Steam. Some publisher's games saw their prices jump way high, while some are somewhat aligned with the US and EU prices.
 
I browsed the first page of specials and dipped out, nothing really that eye-catching at all. Steam sales are kinda lame now, you can find better deals with midweek madness it feels like.
 

Zyae

Member
Stagnant discounts
It used to be that Steam would update games on a daily basis with new deals to cling you on day by day. Heck at one point deals would be updated every 8 hours -24/7. With Steam's new approach of showing all the deals its very easy to shift through everything in one day and just pick stuff you want and ignore all the rest. What I liked about the shorter deals was the impulse buy effect, these games were cheaper than the normal deals and gave people incentive to check every few hours or so.


They stopped this because people rightfully complained that they would miss sales because they were sleeping/working/in class/etc
 

zulux21

Member
There is also the fact that a lot of other digital stores beat the steam prices anymore. Bundlestars tends to be a bit cheaper and has extra discounts on top of that though they have a limited section. Humble bundle tends to mostly price match and you can get ten percent off by being s monthly subscription. Amazon also price matches allot and you can often get deals on Amazon credit.

There is still plenty of people who are ignorant of better deals though. I mean why buy dark should two scholars edition on steam for twelve when you can get it in the humble monthly for the same price and get other games.
 

Zoon

Member
I told to myself I won't buy anything unless there is at least an 80% discount. I'm checking my wishlist today and almost everything is 40-75%, nothing at 80+%. It's not even about new games. I'm pretty sure some of those were sold for less a few years ago. Too bad, another steam sale that I'm not giving them a single cent.
 

RulkezX

Member
Steam sales have been bad for a few years now. You can buy games for less than they are on a steam sale from legit websites all year round.

The only games i buy on Steam are the ones that i feel like i might use the refund option. Doesn't help that prices in my country ( Switzerland ) got all over the place since they introduced my local currency on Steam. Some publisher's games saw their prices jump way high, while some are somewhat aligned with the US prices.

This killed them for me. No point saving your $£€ for the Steam sales and splurging when other sites are selling games at same prices all year round
 

SmokedMeat

Gamer™
I guess because I missed out on the glory days, modern Steam sales don't bother me. There are some good deals on there, and that's including what the other sites sell for.
 

maus

Member
You probably own everything already.
This is true but it ain't a sad truth to me. I know it's fun to buy shit but I've since taken a step back and have been enjoying the massive library of games on my account. I've completed more singleplayer games than usual this year and none of them have actually been from 2017.
 
Over the past few years Steam users have been noticing that the Steam sales were not were they used to be, aka "50% is the new 75%" but it's more than that, Steam or Valve however have dropped the ball, yes they will rake in millions but Steam has lost its touch on what made the sale so special in the first place. These main factors below are what make a Steam Sale special and make me willing to spend cash.

Publishers got smart.
Long story short the publisher, especially Triple A studios realised that they were under pricing games on PC, its a known fact that PC games have increased in RRP by 33% to be closer to console tier pricing on launch day and this has carried out in sales. For example a game like SFIV was 29.99 at launch, during a steam sale you would see a 75% drop to 7.50. Compare that to SFV which is 34.99 at launch and is now on sale for 50% instead for 17.49. Devs are playing the game in a big way, we are no longer going to see those crazy 75-90% deals like we used to see on Steam.

Stagnant discounts
It used to be that Steam would update games on a daily basis with new deals to cling you on day by day. Heck at one point deals would be updated every 8 hours -24/7. With Steam's new approach of showing all the deals its very easy to shift through everything in one day and just pick stuff you want and ignore all the rest. What I liked about the shorter deals was the impulse buy effect, these games were cheaper than the normal deals and gave people incentive to check every few hours or so.

You probably own everything already.
Another complication is that most of us have game libraries already in the hundreds or even thousands on Steam already, we are reaching a point in where we are becoming quite picky on what we buy and having to shift through the all the games that some guy has made in his bedroom that nobody really cares about. It is getting harder to find gems in the massive shovel-ware of indie and low budget titles and its going to get harder and harder to find games you want.

Steam sales are no longer fun
Remember when publishers did Christmas special events? Remember you could craft items into games? Remember when you could use cards to trade for stuff? Remember Game specific Achievements during sales? Well its all gone now, Steam was way ahead of its time with this and it made the Steam sale into a mini game in itself. However over the past couple of years Steam has moved away from that to smaller events or just collecting badges which offer very little incentive to check the store every day.



There are a lot of other reasons, but for me these were the main ones for me not spending so much on Steam over the past couple of years, even services outside of steam such as Amazon and gmg are dropping the ball. I think its due to devs finally realising that DD is the future and want tighter controls on pricing.

1 Not really. If a game does well its less likely to be discounted. SF is probably a case of that.

2 Thank fucking god. I have a life and cant check Steam thrice a day for 10 days running hoping a game I want goes on sale. This is better. I can buy what I want without worrying about missing a better deal.

3 No I dont.

4 Never cared about that nonsense. Still dont.
 

PillarEN

Member
You probably own everything already.
Another complication is that most of us have game libraries already in the hundreds or even thousands on Steam already, we are reaching a point in where we are becoming quite picky on what we buy and having to shift through the all the games that some guy has made in his bedroom that nobody really cares about. It is getting harder to find gems in the massive shovel-ware of indie and low budget titles and its going to get harder and harder to find games you want.
Oh my. That's not me at all. That's a bit of a control problem considering how many games a person can even realistically get through in a year without rushing and actually enjoying themselves. I'd consider this paragraph a very special niche of unfortunate souls. Waste of money objectively speaking.
 
Bring back the daily deals + the encore day, leave out the flash deals. Best of both worlds.

The other reason they removed dailies is cause of the refund system. You put a game for sale on dailies and then you have a lot of people who purchased the game earlier asking for refunds.

Honestly, I'm fine with the dailies being gone, having the ability to refund games is better.
 
Count your blessings. Be happy with the over abundant amount of games you do have. You do not need to seek fun or thrills from impulse buys. This to me is a sign of toxic consumption culture.
 

ScottFarRoad

Neo Member
I love the end of daily deals. I don't have time to check Steam each day to see if the game I want is cheaper. I like knowing this is as cheap as it gets. If I don't like the price, I don't buy it.

Developers probably were selling AAA PC games too cheaply on Steam. It was just a matter of time until that was corrected. The PC market has grown a lot - and that lets them put up prices - but it also brings us games that would've never seen Steam before (Bayonetta, etc).

Owning everything you want is a good thing, not a bad thing.

As for Steam events being fun, okay for the minority who actually bothered with that mini-game stuff they used to do (and still are doing this sale to a degree) but I bet most people just wanted to get their cheap games and leave.
 
IIRC, SFIV PC launched as a late port. SFV was PC and console same day/window. Not quite an apples-to-apples comparison.

Also, the "there are too many shitty indie games being released and that makes it hard to find gems" argument is a false narrative with the current version of the Steam store. I challenge you to look for a new game to buy and not be able to find one. All you have to do is start with tags, and just narrow it down from there.
 

leng jai

Member
I don't think I've bought a game off one of these sales in the last 3 years. I do however go in and see the COD prices for a chuckle every time though.
 
This is all true, but I'm glad to say I've had a much better sale this time around compared with last summers'.

It's a new normal but the backlog only grows...
 

TVexperto

Member
I dont know what else to say except that I agree 100% with OP, Steam used to be so innovative and ahead of its game with its amazing sales
 

Poketune

Member
I think another large factor is that digital marketplaces have really taken off on consoles, so now digital discounts tend to be the same across the board. It doesn't make sense for a publisher to give a game a deeper price cut on one digital marketplace than another.

Not if you're a Nintendo.

I know what I typed
 

Kawngi

Member
I also miss the fun that was involved with a steam sale. Watching the clock tick over and seeing all the new deals was exciting. I've seen some people that prefer this method but now it just feels like any other site's sale.
 
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Ifrit

Member
Game specific achivements during sales were the best, I remember we got a new exclusive portal song for audiosurf, christmas themed enemies on killing floor, and a new super meat boy level. That was awesome
 

Silvawuff

Member
Steam isn't the only digital distribution game in town. Like others have said, better deals pop up elsewhere, and more often, and these games are not hard-walled behind Steam's overpresent DRM.

I personally don't dive in unless it's something I've really wanted and it's super deeply discounted.
 

Freeman76

Member
I prefer the format now and there are lots of great value games in the sale.

This is your fault for buying so much shit there is nothing left to look forward to for you.
 
I'm glad all the stupid flash sale BS is gone. Not everyone is able to be at their PC all the time. Missing out on sales because I was working was stupid as hell.
 
The sad truth about steam sales is I already own all the games I'd ever want to buy during them...

This year I am actually interested in quite a few new games so that will be changing. I may spend close to 50 dollars this year which is more than i've spent over the last 2 years of sales (not just Summer sale, but including all seasonals)

I am not going to be petty and complain about that 50% off should be 75% so screw the game.

I'm glad all the stupid flash sale BS is gone. Not everyone is able to be at their PC all the time. Missing out on sales because I was working was stupid as hell.

You worked 24 hours a day?
 

KdotIX

Member
This will be the third year in a row where I don't buy anything in the steam sale. I took part in what the OP considers the "golden era sales events", and accumulated over 300 titles whilst only having played 39% of them - that's on steam only too. Since I realised that shocking truth, I slowed down on impulse buys and completely stopped buying in the sales altogether, I only tend to pick up DLCs for the games I really like in the sales. And yeah whilst it doesn't feel like an event anymore, I'm ok with that until I make a dent into my current library.
 
I remember long time ago during a Christmas sale I was at midnight playing Defcon trying to shoot down Santa to get an achievement for the event.

Steam sales have lost their magic.
 

Divvy

Canadians burned my passport
They also severely hurry indie game studios which is why I only buy them at full price now.
 
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