mrmickfran
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It really is the cream of the crop. Only 2-4 and 6-5 can hope to go against it.
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Late To The Prosecution: Ace Attorney
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Drillary Clinton
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Just posting to say that I appreciate the thread title.
purseowner
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One final question: Case 5 of AA1. Should I play it next, or after I've played AA2 & 3, given it was included in the DS re-release and not the original?
Just play it next, no harm. Case 5 isn't mentioned at all in AA2&3.
Poltergust
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Actually, the slightly updated script of the 3DS trilogy makes a passing reference to Case 1-5 in... AA2, I think. I noticed that immediately when I played through it because every other version of the game treats that case as if it didn't exist.
Sir_Crocodile
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I'd still go with 1-5 personally over 3-5.
The fey story in 3-5 has great feels, but I also like what 1-5 does with edgeworth and I feel it has the better puzzles for me - everything centring around that fantastic cctv footage. Also I prefer Gant as the antagonist, and "Wandering Detective From the Wild West" is my favourite BGM in the entire series.
Play it next.
Ah didn't realise the DS script differed to the 3DS script.
Dunno if it's mentioned in this thread, but definitely play Ghost Trick as well, as it's just as good as the original trilogy, if not better.
The emotional payoff in that case is goddamn brilliant. I think Case 1-4 is the best case in the series, however.
The emotional payoff in that case is goddamn brilliant. I think Case 1-4 is the best case in the series, however.
Yes, yes, yes, play them all. But as suggested take breaks, or you might burn out since they can be quite lengthy.
Play them all in Chronological order and if you want some extra fun play the Investigations spin-offs between 4 and 5. Those have a more P&C style gameplay but the script is on point.
Also the music. God damn the music. What a beautiful soundtrack
Play them all in Chronological order and if you want some extra fun play the Investigations spin-offs between 4 and 5. Those have a more P&C style gameplay but the script is on point.
Also the music. God damn the music. What a beautiful soundtrack
I found 1-5 amazing half because 1-4 was already such an incredible high, and then it just goes even harder. Part of why I think it's hard to top the first game for that one-two-punch of unrelated mind-blowing cases, it's kind of unfair.
I agree, it's one of the most intense gaming experiences I've ever had. That whole game is brilliant, but the last case is a gaming marvel.
I'm currently on the 4th case of Dual Destinies and it has been an enjoyable ride so far, much better than Apollo Justice, but not quite at the same level of the original trilogy. I hear good things about Spirit of Justice, looking forward to that one.
My hot take: 6-5 felt like the new dev team trying to make their own 3-5 without doing the necessary setup.
The trilogy final cases are still the GOAT.
That's actually an interesting way to look at it. I think it still really succeeds largely based on how damn crazy it ends up being, but it doesn't have the emotional impact nor satisfaction that 3-5 gives you due to the lack of a setup for it.
3-5 and 1-4 are my favorite cases probably. The second half of 6-5 and AAI2-5 are amazing in a bubble though. I also lowkey love some of the smaller cases in the original trilogy, like 1-3, 2-2, and 3-3. I don't personally care for 1-5 or 2-4 that much;
1-5 just kind of drawls on and lacks a surprising reveal, and 2-4 doesn't have much to it outside the reveal which admittedly is amazing because it bucked a precedent that the series hadn't yet bucked and still hasn't revisited since.
charlequin
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We're never getting the 19th century spinoff series or Ace Attorney Investigations 2
I highly, highly recommend the fan translation patch for AAI2. Incredibly high-quality, professional script, and the game is very good.
Vincent Alexander
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I need to go back to these. I bought the trilogy last year and loved the hell out of it, but I only beat the first game. The only part I disliked was walking around and gathering evidence. I wanted to get to the awesome trials.
TheRedSnifit
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These games are amazing. Fantastic series.
I actually feel the same way. The courtroom parts are the best parts by far.
I actually feel the same way. The courtroom parts are the best parts by far.
Bobo Dakes
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Fantastic series.
AA1, for me at least, is probably the best in the series, mainly due to how new all of it feels. The latter games are also great, but the series does end up repeating a few tropes. Case 1-3 never really felt like a filler cast to me, whereas the 3rd case in other games usually is.
AA2 is a slight drop, mainly because of 2-3. But AA3, holy shit, that story. 3-4 had me afraid to be alone in the dark at night. That scarred me for a while. And yeah it all comes to a head in 3-5.
It's weird to say, but even though Apollo Justice AA is my least favorite game in the series, Apollo Justice is my favorite character. It's one and done, but it necessary to play for future games in the series.
AA5 was a good return to form. Haven't finished AA6, but I am enjoying it more than 5. But I am on a pretty obvious filler case so I'm not that motivated to go back right now.
Try not to burn through the entire series, feel free to play something else in between AAs.
But yeah, cases 1-2, 1-5, 3-4, 3-5 are the best in the series.
AA1, for me at least, is probably the best in the series, mainly due to how new all of it feels. The latter games are also great, but the series does end up repeating a few tropes. Case 1-3 never really felt like a filler cast to me, whereas the 3rd case in other games usually is.
AA2 is a slight drop, mainly because of 2-3. But AA3, holy shit, that story. 3-4 had me afraid to be alone in the dark at night. That scarred me for a while. And yeah it all comes to a head in 3-5.
It's weird to say, but even though Apollo Justice AA is my least favorite game in the series, Apollo Justice is my favorite character. It's one and done, but it necessary to play for future games in the series.
AA5 was a good return to form. Haven't finished AA6, but I am enjoying it more than 5. But I am on a pretty obvious filler case so I'm not that motivated to go back right now.
Try not to burn through the entire series, feel free to play something else in between AAs.
But yeah, cases 1-2, 1-5, 3-4, 3-5 are the best in the series.
Ghost trick is wack! It doesnt even HAVE courtroom drama.
ASilentProtagonist
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Loved the first game then played JFA... Dropped it halfway through. It was bad. Played VLR instead!
I'll look into it after I complete AA6!
Adam_Roman
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I really hope we get some collections of the AA games on Switch or hell, even PC with how Japan's been lately on PC ports. I've only played 1-4 and the first 3 cases of AAI, but I'd love to play 5, 6, PLxAA, and AAI2.
3 will always be my favorite, but the first game was incredible for what it was. It really hooked me in and got me ready to go on a long adventure.
3 will always be my favorite, but the first game was incredible for what it was. It really hooked me in and got me ready to go on a long adventure.
If it is, the general consensus is wrong. I think Spirit of Justice is far better than Dual Destinies, which ultimately felt pointless and tedious to me.
But the consensus I've picked up on is that Investigations 2 is that writer's best game, and I wouldn't disagree with that.
Linkstrikesback
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Haha, oh man, no.
SoJ runs circles round DD, and the last case is in competition with 3-5 for best case in the series (imo, obviously)
I'm not sure what the general consensus is, but I think Spirit of Justice is miles better than Dual Destinies.
Dual Destinies is by far my least favourite in the series. Even the final case is mediocre, which is a first for the series.
Unfortunately, no. There's an antagonist in Apollo Justice who had potential, but the showdown with them is rather anticlimactic.
I'm in the DD>SoJ camp, though I'm also in the extreme minority that thinks DD is the best game in the series (though the original trilogy when taken as a whole is far better than anything that proceeded it still). I like every case in DD, whereas I disliked cases 1, 4, and the first half of SoJ's 5. SoJ's 2 and DLC are good but not great, and 3 and the latter part of 5 are amazing, but SoJ just feels so LONG and bloated to me.
I am playing through SoJ right now and for the most part it's a lot better than Dual Destinies. The only flaw is
Case 4
purseowner
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Bumping this, as I'm now halfway through Justice for All.
Eh.
I can entirely see why some say this is the weakest game. The cases are kind of flat and by-the-numbers, it's easy to deduce what's going on but the game ends up being contrary over the line of reasoning and the evidence you need to present, leaving many sections frustrating.
You can also tell the localisation had to scrub out a lot of cultural context in the second case, leaving the theme of the case rather trite and grating rather than interesting ('Mystic Maya', I mean come on).
Big Top is next, which I know many loathe.
Eh.
I can entirely see why some say this is the weakest game. The cases are kind of flat and by-the-numbers, it's easy to deduce what's going on but the game ends up being contrary over the line of reasoning and the evidence you need to present, leaving many sections frustrating.
You can also tell the localisation had to scrub out a lot of cultural context in the second case, leaving the theme of the case rather trite and grating rather than interesting ('Mystic Maya', I mean come on).
Big Top is next, which I know many loathe.
It's always amusing to me that this video has 8.4 million views: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMnrl0tmd3k
The large majority of them probably came from people who don't even know what Ace Attorney is.
I don't think DD is better than AA1 or AA3, but I do agree with the rest of the above. SoJ case 2 and the DLC have little to do with the main story (cases 1/3/5) and new mechanics, instead relying on the DD formula, and they're the stronger for it.
Can you buy that on a cart or do you need to hack the cart and/or system?
lukeskymac
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Very weird way of saying "Better than any AA game, easily"
Last 10 minutes of Big Top were amazing. The rest was a slog.
Just hold out until you get to 2-4. imo it's the most intense case in the series.
charlequin
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You can either play it via a flashcart (a good DS flashcart is like twenty bucks and fairly easy to set up) or an emulator like DeSmuME.
Thanks. I'll have to look into this. I liked the original Investigations a lot.
This is around where I left off years ago. One day I'll get back to JFA, but I'd likely need to start over having forgotten so much which makes my motivation even less desirable.
Poltergust
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If it makes you feel any better, the actual case for 2-3 is pretty good (it's one of the very few cases in the entire series that legitimately presents a whodunit scenario, and the villain is one of the better ones in the series, too), it's just everything surrounding it is... well, you'll see for yourself.
AA2 is a slog until the final trial, which was good, but AA3 completely blew me away, especially the last trial.
I played them all earlier this year in quick succession for the first time and I'd rank the original trilogy as 3>>1>2. Don't think I've ever been as emotionally invested in fictional characters as I was for most of AA3.
I played them all earlier this year in quick succession for the first time and I'd rank the original trilogy as 3>>1>2. Don't think I've ever been as emotionally invested in fictional characters as I was for most of AA3.
Looking at the comments apparently PewDiePie linked it somewhere or something.
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