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xk0sm0sx · Mar 15, 2015

Source: http://ch.nicovideo.jp/19-885/blomaga/ar749962 (A random blog)

So remember back then when Nintendo said they will endorse certain aspects of fan work regarding their games (Let's Plays, Game Music Covers, and Fan Art).
I guess they really mean that and has now taken action to remove things that fell outside that scope. As you can see, many videos involving TAS (Tool Assisted Speedrun), romhacked Super Mario World had been taken down.

In the example in the blog, the shown TASed game videos taken down were:
Mario Kart Advance
Legend of Zelda : Majora's Mask
Made In Wario
Doctor Mario
Super Smash Brothers Melee
Kirby Deluxe
Edited SMW (Dat infamous one)

Why, Nintendo, just why... TAS videos are so harmless.

atomsk · Mar 15, 2015

xk0sm0sx said:
Why, Nintendo, just why... TAS videos are so harmless.

Oh I think you know why...

Diggeh · Mar 15, 2015

Abounder · Mar 15, 2015

I hope they are at least fine with Devs Play, but this is not good news

Skellig Gra · Mar 15, 2015

Yeah it suck but it seems pretty straightforward why they would do something like that. Any other IP holder would do the same thing.

Dice · Mar 15, 2015

"Endorse" is an extremely nice way of putting how they are treating the fan community with their ridiculously lopsided deals.

Gentleman Jack · Mar 15, 2015

Hollywood Duo said:
Yeah it suck but it seems pretty straightforward why they would do something like that. Any other IP holder would do the same thing.

And yet, many IP holders do not do this.

Rats Off To Ya · Mar 15, 2015

Hollywood Duo said:
Yeah it suck but it seems pretty straightforward why they would do something like that. Any other IP holder would do the same thing.

Many other IP holders currently aren't doing the same thing.

Xpike · Mar 15, 2015

Hollywood Duo said:
Yeah it suck but it seems pretty straightforward why they would do something like that. Any other IP holder would do the same thing.

and yet, they're the only IP holder doing this

ShinRPGamer · Mar 15, 2015

Hollywood Duo said:
Yeah it suck but it seems pretty straightforward why they would do something like that. Any other IP holder would do the same thing.

Then why is Nintendo the only IP holder that does this?

bjork · Mar 15, 2015

You're stealing sales of Mario Maker or some such idea like that. Someone in an office somewhere said so.

Skellig Gra · Mar 15, 2015

I wasn't clear enough I suppose, I meant that in the structure that Nintendo set up to monetize people who do derivative work any other company would do the same thing. I'm not saying other companies wouldn't let this pass with no system in place like Nintendo has but if you do set up a system like this you need to enforce the rules to make it fair to everyone.

epmode · Mar 15, 2015

Old men running the world. A new age!

Cyd0nia · Mar 15, 2015

What the hell is TAS?

Could clamping down on romhacks be because they're preparing user editing games like Mario Maker?

Mauricio_Magus · Mar 15, 2015

Cyd0nia said:
What the hell is TAS?

Could clamping down on romhacks be because they're preparing user editing games like Mario Maker?

Tool-assisted speedrun

djplaeskool · Mar 15, 2015

Cyd0nia said:
What the hell is TAS?

Could clamping down on romhacks be because they're preparing user editing games like Mario Maker?

Tool Assisted run
Programs modders will run to do things like inspect memory while actions are taken in the game, provide the game with inputs beyond a persons ability to do so manually, etc.
It adds a layer of automation that helps people really dig into the root of a game's function, and then help them break it further.

DiscoShark · Mar 15, 2015

inb4 "Nintendo has every right to protect its intellectual prop-

Hollywood Duo said:
Yeah it suck but it seems pretty straightforward why they would do something like that. Any other IP holder would do the same thing.

Shit. Welp.

Deft Beck · Mar 15, 2015

Very backwards of them, but I suppose this might have something to do with Mario Maker.

Blobbers · Mar 15, 2015

Why is Nintendo fucking so much with people who like playing their games?
Nintendo, STOP please. It's not the children who are wrong, it's you.

ffdgh · Mar 15, 2015

Nintendo, what are you doing? Nintendo, stahp.

Hope this doesn't happen to any youtube TAS.

HardRojo · Mar 15, 2015

Oh man... I'm not even surprised anymore. This is just par for the course since it's Nintendo, which really sucks.

Leafhopper · Mar 15, 2015

Mario Maker comes out and all Mario Romhack videos on Youtube disappear in the same day.

kswiston · Mar 15, 2015

djplaeskool said:
Tool Assisted run
Programs modders will run to do things like inspect memory while actions are taken in the game, provide the game with inputs beyond a persons ability to do so manually, etc.
It adds a layer of automation that helps people really dig into the root of a game's function, and then help them break it further.

Having zero interest in following the speed-running scene at all, I have never really heard of this before. Is this how people record those videos of beating Super Mario Bros in 8 minutes while getting 100 lives?

entremet · Mar 15, 2015

I fell like Japanese companies don't really get the Internet sometimes.

PandaPandaPanda · Mar 15, 2015

for a company that has "vaults of cash" they really need to hire a team that handles social media stuff. Their current team if they have one is doing an awful job.

Yasumi · Mar 15, 2015

If they start taking down those TAS automated medlies, Nintendo's dead to me.

Mindlog · Mar 15, 2015

Keep fighting the good fight.

Haunted · Mar 15, 2015

Fuck them.

PandaPandaPanda said:
for a company that has "vaults of cash" they really need to hire a team that handles social media stuff. Their current team if they have one is doing an awful job.

I am 100% certain that Nintendo has capable ground-level people who know that these decisions are ultimately harmful to the image and the brand.

I am also 100% certain that these people have absolutely no power to stop this when the decision comes down from one of the higher ups.

giancarlo123x · Mar 15, 2015

Leafhopper said:
Mario Maker comes out and all Mario Romhack videos on Youtube disappear in the same day.

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Vena · Mar 15, 2015

kswiston said:
Having zero interest in following the speed-running scene at all, I have never really heard of this before. Is this how people record those videos of beating Super Mario Bros in 8 minutes while getting 100 lives?

Depends, there are speedruns of games that are genuinely superfast or done in such ways as to effectively break the game without doing any sort of tampering with the game. AGDC, for instance, I believe, does everything raw with the games without modding them.

This is, of course, someone at Nintendo being stupid and backwards.

AngryMoth · Mar 15, 2015

Does nintendos legal team just not play or understand video games?

tonyh24613 · Mar 15, 2015

Hmm, hope those video can be re-upload, then we can see if it's 2008 massacre all over again.

frankie_baby · Mar 15, 2015

Dice said:
"Endorse" is an extremely nice way of putting how they are treating the fan community with their ridiculously lopsided deals.

Yes lopsided in favour of the video maker, so you think they should balance it by taking more money then?

Leafhopper · Mar 15, 2015

AngryMoth said:
Does nintendos legal team just not play or understand video games?

Does Nintendo understand video games?

Shuggananas · Mar 15, 2015

Is it only nicovideo ? This site sucks anyway so it wouldn't be a big loss...

If it's youtube too then that really sucks.

Smiles and Cries · Mar 15, 2015

Gentleman Jack said:
And yet, many IP holders do not do this.

RatsOffToYa said:
Many other IP holders currently aren't doing the same thing.

You take the IPs Nintendo is known for away there is very little value left

if a company like that cares about how their IPs are used while others do not seem to mind so much it is not that hard to understand

Nintendo is trying to survive for the long term while many other companies come and go or their IPs fall out of rotation never to be used again

Nintendo is no fun this way but I can understand why they are being so anal about this

Slayven · Mar 15, 2015

Gentleman Jack said:
And yet, many IP holders do not do this.

RatsOffToYa said:
Many other IP holders currently aren't doing the same thing.

Xpike said:
and yet, they're the only IP holder doing this

ShinRPGamer said:
Then why is Nintendo the only IP holder that does this?

Cause different IP holders can choose how they want to manage their rights?

vareon · Mar 15, 2015

Wait...does this mean they'll removing videos like these? Is it already unavailable in Niconico?

Overside · Mar 15, 2015

can notcomprehend this.

THis is like the same level of Nintendo going wayyyyyy out of their way to remove the sequence breaking from games like super metroid and metroid prime during localizations to other regions.

I literally imagine there is some old, super strict japanese dude, who runs around demanding 'You cant play those games that way!!!'

Bet hes behind this too.

DSix · Mar 15, 2015

Nintendo being ass-backward once again, what a surprise...

HardRojo · Mar 15, 2015

Slayven said:
Cause different IP holders can choose how they want to manage their rights?

That's not their point. The user said "Any other IP holder would do the same thing.", thing is they aren't.

Yasumi · Mar 15, 2015

vareon said:
Wait...does this mean they'll removing videos like these? Is it already unavailable in Niconico?

The Don't Stop Me Now one is dead.

Phocks · Mar 15, 2015

Nintendo's attitude towards mods is hilarious. I can be banned on Miiverse for saying "PM".

sörine · Mar 15, 2015

Xpike said:
and yet, they're the only IP holder doing this

Tell that to Shining fans.

ffdgh · Mar 15, 2015

vareon said:
Wait...does this mean they'll removing videos like these? Is it already unavailable in Niconico?

I hope not. I enjoy(d) watching these things over the years...

Velcro Fly · Mar 15, 2015

Romhacks and TAS videos are done on not legal copies of games.

crinale · Mar 15, 2015

I really think doing this in Nikoniko would ultimately backfire to Nintendo, but we'll see..

freethoughtbubble · Mar 15, 2015

They deserve the negative press they're about to get. So stupid.

Funyarinpa · Mar 15, 2015

Soon, we'll start to call it The-N-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named to avoid copyright claims.

Vipershark · Mar 15, 2015

silkysmooth said:
Romhacks and TAS videos are done on not legal copies of games.

You do know that making backups is perfectly legal, right? And that it's entirely possible to make rom hacks and TASes of said legal backups?

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