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Arrow's Stephen Amell: Stereotyping Texas isn't any better than stereotyping Ahmed.

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anaron

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#NotAllTexans

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https://twitter.com/amellywood/status/644256406137278464
 
So he's saying we haven't all failed our cities.

Any way, yeah, I live in Texas but I just take all this current outpouring of hatred toward the state in stride.
 

Frodo

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Texas is so liberal and progressive. Truly the socialist, secularist, equality loving utopia of the USA.


How does that sound?
 
Yeah, I agree. I dont think its fair to use broad strokes to describe an entire population because of some idiots. I haven't spent much time in Texas outside of Austin but I've been treated very well each time.
 

Crud

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What can you do? It happened in Texas. We gon get shit on. It's all good, I'm sure people don't think Texas is 100% racist. I guess this really got to him. I live in Texas but I don't have the pride.
 

anaron

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I dont see how people can be mad at Amell here
uh, because he's a dumbass who's trying to compare the historically accurate stereotype that accompanies Texas as a state to the living systemic racism that minorities face every day.

Texas doesn't need any protection and it's hilarious to see a privileged white dude jump to its defence this way.

Pretty misguided.

Stereotyping a state might result in a few jokes or nasty comments on social media.

Stereotyping a person resulted in a kid being arrested and thrown in jail.
Exactly.
 

Chichikov

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And that's exactly why profiling Muslims is much worse than saying mean things about Texas on the internet.
In fact, the harm is such "profiling" does is somewhere between "zero" and "insignificant", so much that I don't think it's worthwhile bringing it up in the context of that story.
 

Zoned

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It's total BS and I wouldn't take you seriously personally, if you don't think there is a huge racism problem in Texas.
 

THRILLH0

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Pretty misguided.

Stereotyping a state might result in a few jokes or nasty comments on social media.

Stereotyping a person resulted in a kid being arrested and thrown in jail.
 

Zoned

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Yeah, I agree. I dont think its fair to use broad strokes to describe an entire population because of some idiots. I haven't spent much time in Texas outside of Austin but I've been treated very well each time.
Do you belong to a non Christian minority?

Besides that Austin is pretty liberal anyway.
 

Monocle

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Um, Ahmed is an individual who was piled on by racist fraidycats with institutional power. Texas is a state that people make fun of sometimes because some of its residents are ridiculous.

What I'm trying to convey here is that the two cases are exactly the same.
 

- J - D -

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"If you're outraged at an opinion it's because you're bored" he says, while being outraged at opinions.

I think we're jumping a few degrees here. It's a thing with internet discourse that any expression of the slightest annoyance is automatically read as outrage.

I'm outraged at your opinion though. just fyi so we're clear.
 

anaron

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Yeah, I agree. I dont think its fair to use broad strokes to describe an entire population because of some idiots. I haven't spent much time in Texas outside of Austin but I've been treated very well each time.
Well, that's probably why. Austin is extremely liberal.
 

Frodo

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Had the State of Texas been arrested for profiling a 14 years old boy wearing a NASA t-shirt, he would be totally on point.




As it is, he is not wrong, but... he is missing the centre of the problem.
 

Zoned

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What does he know about ground reality in Texas anyway? Being white and having some family members experience there doesn't tell you about rampant racism against minorities. Ask non Christian non white people and then you'll get an answer.
 
Do you belong to a non Christian minority?

Besides that Austin is pretty liberal anyway.

Yeah I'm a brown Muslim dude. Austin might be an outlier, true, and I'm not gonna pretend I don't hear awful news out of Texas but I'd like to believe there are also lots of non bigots just going about their lives in the state.

I'm going to Big Bend later this year and I do admit I'm a little apprehensive. Then again, I'm usually irrationally nervous when I step outside of major cities.
 

Switch Back 9

a lot of my threads involve me fucking up somehow. Perhaps I'm a moron?
Yeah I'm a brown Muslim dude. Austin might be an outlier, true, and I'm not gonna pretend I don't hear awful news out of Texas but I'd like to believe there are also lots of non bigots just going about their lives in the state.

I'm going to Big Bend later this year and I do admit I'm a little apprehensive. Then again, I'm usually irrationally nervous when I step outside of major cities.

Ehhhh, I don't think it's completely irrational.
 
I get what Amell is trying to say. And it is a good point.

Except this is where it falls apart:

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Saying that something is a systemic problem is not profiling. Systemic does not mean "those people". It means that it has happened before. Which it has. Texas has a history of being a little bit backwards in some parts.

But you know what? Racism is systemic everywhere. Not just Texas.

So spare me the (well intentioned) bullshit concern trolling very transparently brought on by your wife's native state.
 

way more

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I don't see how saying all Texans are racist cow-fuckers is similar to exposing the plight of our Muslim brothers.

Comedy can only punch up to be funny.
 

injurai

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I get what he's saying, but you'd only bring it up the way he did for all the wrong reasons. Why does he feel the need to defend Texas? Why does he defend Texas so sweepingly? Pretty suspect is it not?
 

kirblar

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Yeah, he doesn't understand what "systemic problem" means here and has gone off the rails because of it. It's not about stereotyping.
 
We need to stop profiling every state! Oregon isn't all wacky hipster stoners! It's mostly meth head homeless people and crazy mountain people who think this is the South!
 

Zoned

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Yeah, he doesn't understand what "systemic problem" means here and has gone off the rails because of it. It's not about stereotyping.
Next time he is gonna say that it's profiling when you say America has systemic police brutalization. His logic would be something along the lines of I have family members/relatives working to serve the people, which is totally irrelevant to the problem.
 

Soodanim

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I think he wanted to point out the hypocrisy of stereotyping up to 26 million people for the actions of a lot less than that. There's nothing wrong with the point in and of itself. It's just that the "Not all Texans" part took him off course a bit.
 
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