FranXico
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That is not going to happen for a long time. the Cell processor is too difficult to emulate.
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Digital Foundry: Hands-on with PS4's PlayStation 2 emulation
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That is not going to happen for a long time. the Cell processor is too difficult to emulate.
Mr. Nice_Guy
Member
I've been saying, when this is announced Sega needs to get 1 & 2 as classics.
Newtype-001
Member
Same.
Kabuki Quantum Lover
Member
This will allow Final Fantasy XI to continue to live.
I want to see the world burn.
This sums up my reaction well.
TheAdmiester
Member
So it's two gens back
Not that I wouldn't appreciate some OG Xbox support from MS
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
This is seriously more impressive than the 360 emulation because:
1. Framerate has been bumped to 60fps
2. Increased resolution
3. Trophy support added
Portugeezer
Member
Probably the latter. Sony did similar with PS1 classics on PSP. It was a file conversion to make it PSP compatible, hackers even got a hold of it and people were making any PS1 game work on PSP.
Teletraan1
Banned
I just want to be able to play my PSN purchased Squaresoft games from PS1. I never imagined that the PS4 wouldn't be able to play these for 2 years into its life. The fucking PSP could. Time to triangle indeed Mr. Cerny.
Especially when you consider the decent selection of crossgen games, crossbuy games, and definitive editions means that a decent portion of PS3 games have some kind of native PS4 version now anyway.
You don't need to "rework" the game to have trophies.
FranXico
Member
It's not that impressive when you take into account that the emulated hardware is significantly simpler. I would say they ought to achieve those things in this day and age.
entremet
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Newtype-001
Member
I've never played SMT Nocturne.
Make it happen plz.
Make it happen plz.
Ricky Ricardo
Member
We're talking about PS2 games here, a framerate and resolution increase are no-brainers.
Trophy support is legit though
darkjedi187
Member
Crazy talk I tell you!!
FranXico
Member
You can monitor the state of the emulator. You would however need the emulator to load a game specific module that associates certain states with trophies triggers.
I wouldn't mind too much since they're usually just $10 at most. Most times less.
Hades Hotgun
Banned
Sony specifically patented a means of adding trophies to games without having to change the games.
The Last One
Member
Chrono Cross with trophies would make it a better game than Chrono Trigger.
The patent for trophies on the older games says otherwise. They can be added without altering the original game. The triggers for trophies would not be baked into the games, but set console side in how the way a disc is read. Something like that. I'm sure someone more savvy could elaborate on that more.
Edit: Beaten to it, and in a better way.
I am sort of amazed at the idea that trophies would be more important to people than resolution/framerate improvements.
If trophies are mandatory I would be irritated because it would be a potential barrier to certain games getting released (if the publishers decided that the cost of implementing trophies was not worth it).
If trophies are mandatory I would be irritated because it would be a potential barrier to certain games getting released (if the publishers decided that the cost of implementing trophies was not worth it).
Adding in custom trophy support for each game is a noteworthy addition, no matter how you slice it.
It's kind of unprecedented outside of straight-up remasters.
Portugeezer
Member
Seems like it. Maybe this is why people were telling people to read.
Also stated in the video: https://youtu.be/vA6TdEstNUg?t=114
So it's a possibility, but not confirmation until Sony acknowledges the emulation and spills the beans.
But then they could put the PS1 Chrono Trigger with trophies.
xenorevlis
Member
No, you don't. Look at the links provided. The emulator itself can have a library to monitor state of the game to unlock trophies without changing the base game itself.
SictorVullivan
Member
Well surely the fact that 3 non Star Wars games have been rated proves this is more than just some Star Wars marketing push.
I don't know how trophies are handled on PS3/PS4, but I'm pretty sure you need to put your hands on the code to say "By doing X, you unlock the Y trophy", so yes, you need to partially rework the game if it's something like Steam achievement api.
I don't know how this works, but someone can explain it to me? How the emulator can "read" the game and unlock a trophy?
31GhostsIV
Banned
Soooo.... When will my PSN copies of Persona 3 and Fire Pro run on my PS4 then?
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
This is nice.
Disc based emulation would make me lose my shit. Likely not the case though
Disc based emulation would make me lose my shit. Likely not the case though
This is pretty cool. I never owned a PS2, so I've only played a few of the classics. I'm a little surprised at how low the native resolution is for the emulator, however, the integration into the main PS4 operating system seems very nice. Hopefully I can pick up Bounty Hunter on the store soon! 
Justice_Bolt
Member
Hahaha! What?
Memorabilia
Member
No, he's smoking some good shit if he really thinks PS2 CPU is anywhere close to PS4 CPU compute.
entremet
Member
Palculator
Unconfirmed Member
Here's our next chance to never play Burnout 3 again.
No, you don't. Read the posts above.
edit:
Simple: It can look at changes on the game's memory, and use it to define if the requirements for a certain trophy were achieved.
jeff_rigby
Banned
Trophies, the benefits of a digital copy, upscaling and the ability to game stream to other platforms.
We have known that at some point both the XB1 and PS4 would be marketed to more casual players as they buy the consoles because of new Media features: Vidipath, DVR, DSS replacement for the Cable card, ATSC 2.0, UHD Blu-ray and digital bridge using Playready ND, Playstation Vue, Playstation Now and because they can Play media and Games as well as stream media and PS1, 2, 3 and 4 games to other platforms.
It is no coincidence that the PS4 survey mentioned both PS1, PS2 emulation and PS4 Firmware 4.0 or that Firmware 3.10 included the ability to create sub-accounts with parental controls for kids.
That Sony released PS1 and PS2 emulation without fanfare doesn't mean it isn't going to be part of a marketing blitz next year. The hipper Grandparents can watch their Grandchildren play the games they played as teenagers (PS1) remotely at home with ooVoo for video chat at the same time they game share......
Newtype-001
Member
I don't think I've bought a single ps2 game off of psn so I'm ready to roll either way