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How Star Citizen Plans to do Much of What No Man's Sky Doesn't
- Thread starter Poetic.Injustice
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Krappadizzle
Member
I hope they can do it.
While I would LOVE for Star Citizen to be all its hyped up to be, I hope after NMS people don't fall for the exact same cycle and end up being disappointed again.
I feel it's a bit ironic media and some gamers are basically like "NMS might have failed to do this, but this time it's different!"
I feel it's a bit ironic media and some gamers are basically like "NMS might have failed to do this, but this time it's different!"
vincenth69
Member
With a 100 millions dollars, I sure hope it will do more than No Man's Sky.
If you are not convinced yet here is Gamescom Alpha 3.0 footage all is seamless with no loading screen what so ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l-epO6oUHE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l-epO6oUHE
That landing, doing it live took balls of steel.
The main difference is that Star Citizen has the manpower and budget to actually make it happen(maybe).
Hey man, I don't know about you, but some of us live on planets.
SmoothRunningGun
Member
The video looks incredible but I won't believe them until it's released and people verify this is real. The original NMS video looks incredible as well.
It's not the saddest presentation ever
Antilurker77
Member
It's a prescripted demo. They did the exact same thing when they announced the 2.0 alpha, and what the released was nowhere close to what they had promised.
Caddyshack
Banned
Not like they don't have the money to do at least that much.
Will believe it when I see it though.
Will believe it when I see it though.
Everything in that video should be in the game for players by the end of the year. Realistically I expect them to delay it to early 2017, but it won't be too long.
It's scripted as in "we're playing this mission and it's the only thing that will pop up". But everything aside from that was played live.
Admiral Woofington
Member
I still don't get what this game is. Tried to go see the pre-ordern and it was a pre-order of a single player campaign plus a bunch of REALLY FUCKING EXPENSIVE ships and content. Like ridiculously expensive, close to a grand for an in-game starship what the fuck.
QuantumBro
Banned
But is it the Dark Souls of No Man's Sky?
Yeah definitely, but they're still promising the world.
If Star Citizen ends up meeting 100% of everything they've promised, it'll be the best space sim of all time and one of the best games of all time.
That's a tall order, especially for a game whose budget basically comes from people buying more ships.
I would just rather want people to keep their hype in check.
What they showed is what they plan to release (hopefully) at the end of the year as alpha 3.0
No release date, but as a backer you get access to test alpha content. You can engage in dog fights and such as of now. You'll only be able to use ships though that you bought through backing. Of course all ships can be earned in game upon final release.
Just saw this earlier. Insanely impressive. Especially the part where the ship can see the player inside the actual base. Insane.
Being an incomplete product?
Star citizen has been around log before nms. And always had more potential due to its sheer scale, funding, and man at the helm.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Looking forward to playing the finished product in 2030.
Antilurker77
Member
Nope, scripted as in more smoke-and-mirrors, just like the 2.0 demo. For example, the pirates during the space flight section were player controlled and not AI-controlled (source is the same guy that leaked the gamescom presentation).
The Silver
Member
Star Citizen always sounded overly ambitious to me, while they might have the budget to better realize their dream compared to NMS, there's still the matter of the truly immense amount of skill it's gonna take to do everything they say they're gonna do and fit it together as one seamless/cohesive FUN experience.
They are, for generating planets I think, then they go in and handcraft bases and stuff on them. Dictator can correct me if I'm wrong.
LelouchZero
Member
The presentation was really fun to watch, I'm really looking forward to Star Citizen.
It's like almost everything you could want in a space game!
It's like almost everything you could want in a space game!
Saucycarpdog
Member
Well it would be hard to do that since the devs are only promising what is in the stretch goals.
The biggest difference of course is that the game is getting built as it goes along, so there is a lot more transparency to keep hype in check.
i was watching this earlier today. What they've managed to achieve is nothing short of incredible...needs to be in the OP
AwesomeMeat
PossumMeat
While I agree with you in principle, a lot of us are already playing Star Citizen and continue to do so with each iteration that is released so the situation isn't completely comparable.
They already said the AI isn't fully done for now. If that's the only thing they "faked" in that demo I couldn't really give a shit.
Are you one of those "Star Citizen is a scam" people?
Chezzymann
Member
Are there going to be decent sized cities in star citizen? I'm not talking 7-8 building procedurally generated towns. More like actual cities, maybe on a smaller scale.
Admiral Woofington
Member
Hopefully it doesn't take you a century in-game to be able to upgrade ships because if stuff is that expensive for digital content I'm not too hopeful.
I'll wait until it's getting closer to release though, thanks for the links.
This game is too detailed, that's what you get when you don't procedurally generate the entire game.
Better late than... whatever No Man's Sky is.
Better late than... whatever No Man's Sky is.
It even had a lineup of investors that would have backed the game to the tune of up to 25 Million dollars had community backers not come through. It has always been a serious project helmed by industry veterans.
Coupled with their great snatching of a large team of CryEngine devs. They have the talent and resources to do something that no developer has done before. Even listening to their podcasts it's clear just how competent their technical team is.
Is Star Citizen ever actually coming out? The game seems like a textbook example of scope creep for any software development class to use
Elite: Dangerous may have been lampooned as doing far less, but they were both kickstarted at the same time and Elite has been out a couple of years now, even having its first expansion, whereas Star Citizen seems to be trying to do way too much
Elite: Dangerous may have been lampooned as doing far less, but they were both kickstarted at the same time and Elite has been out a couple of years now, even having its first expansion, whereas Star Citizen seems to be trying to do way too much
Dictator93
Member
Here was a nice convo from another thread about it:
So imagine artists painting a planet with trees, rivers, etc. based upon pürocedural techniques. Landing zones on plnaets are then very customised whilst being made of prefabs that are modular based upon different style guides: industrial, high tech, low-tech, etc. as well as hero key art (levski has very specific statues and shops for example).
Nice, thanks for clarifying it.
But part of the big difference is that, to some degree, they are shielding themselves from criticism by releasing it in such an incremental way. Star Citizen will, for much of the near future, be a transparently unfinished product. Which is fine - people can play it or not play it, that's up to them. Either way, it's smart (and realistic) of them to not reach some arbirtary point in development where they physically box up the game and go "OK this it guys - Star Citizen is here!"
It's more of an ongoing project that people can hop in or out of at their leisure. Obviously they aim to have a finished game at some point, but like I said, there is a certain degree of criticism they become immune to just by virtue of not calling it a finished game.
The two games are going for completely different experiences. The whole point of NMS is to explore a near infinite galaxy without handcrafted worlds. This feels like they're just using the negative backlash at MNS to prop up their own game.
Hey, they need something to do.
Unknown Soldier
Member
How a game with a $100 million budget and a team of 16,000 people plan to do what a game with a $10 budget and a team of 10 people doesn't, amirite?