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SunBroDave · Sep 30, 2016

http://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2016/9/30/13124366/mafia-3-review-time

WhIle Doom also launched with no pre-release reviews and turned out to be great, that was more the exception than the rule. Here's hoping that Mafia III also lives up to expectations.

Remember folks, never pre-order games.

Soulflarz · Sep 30, 2016

(with exception to doom) never a good sign :/

not touching till post launch, got it.

Greatest Ever · Sep 30, 2016

After the gutter trash that was Mafia II, I don't blame them.

GitarooMan · Sep 30, 2016

This seems like exactly the kind of game that could benefit from a swell of good reviews leading up to release to generate momentum. I still think it looks interesting, but I have to admit my first reaction to this is a little bit of concern. Maybe the game is coming in hot though.

somesayyea · Sep 30, 2016

i hope it's good. not buying it at launch anyway.

robotrock · Sep 30, 2016

Did 2k do this same thing with XCOM 2 and the Bioshock Collection?

Shredderi · Sep 30, 2016

My first thought with cases like these is: "What's wrong with it?". It's obviously a flawed logic (DOOM is so fucking good).

Vex_ · Sep 30, 2016

UH... OH

SPAGHETTY-OHS

styl3s · Sep 30, 2016

Greatest Ever said:
After the gutter trash that was Mafia II, I don't blame them.

thatsbait.gif

Is there a list of games that was critically a success that didn't get review copies? Because i have a hard time believing Doom is the only exception it seems like people only remember bad games im sure there have been a bunch of great games that didn't get review copies. I'm not worried because everyone i know who has played had nothing but nice things to say.

Jawmuncher · Sep 30, 2016

Uhoh.
Gonna expect it might be glitchy then.

Intheflorsh · Sep 30, 2016

Soulflarz said:
(with exception to doom) never a good sign :/

not touching till post launch, got it.

There have been loads of exceptions.

Alexious · Sep 30, 2016

That's weird, PR said three days ago that they'd have review code available "close to launch next week".

Duxxy3 · Sep 30, 2016

There are exceptions, but this is typically a bad sign. All the gameplay that I've seen looks good though.

chadskin · Sep 30, 2016

Dang. Have this pre-ordered, hopefully I won't regret it. :/

LifEndz · Sep 30, 2016

Always a good sign.

roytheone · Sep 30, 2016

Soulflarz said:
(with exception to doom) never a good sign :/

not touching till post launch, got it.

And even in doom the part that was a big focus of the game (the multi) was mediocre.

Montresor · Sep 30, 2016

Well, even if the game turns out bad, you still have a black protagonist playing a Django-Unchained style revenge story against the Italian mob. In New Orleans... with great oldies music. I'd still be down.

I mean damn - they would have to try really hard to make this a bad game.

Piston Hyundai · Sep 30, 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lz1IGYhWNo&t=4m23s

It'll be fine.

Gator86 · Sep 30, 2016

robotrock said:
Did 2k do this same thing with XCOM 2 and the Bioshock Collection?

A worrying sign for this game not running like shit. Don't pre-order games!

hwy_61 · Sep 30, 2016

Welp, worse case scenario for those who preordered(I'm talkin b&m only), just don't open that shit until you see reviews/gaf impressions!

Levito · Sep 30, 2016

Kinda had a feeling this might happen, the recent gameplay videos have been pretty rough looking.

icespide · Sep 30, 2016

I guess this means the game is dog shit

watdaeff4 · Sep 30, 2016

They know they have the GOTY. So why bother?

Between GCU and the $10 preorder cert from Best Buy, it's only $38 anyways.......

I'm sure it's not as awful as NMS.

oti · Sep 30, 2016

I've got a good feeling about this but as usual don't pre-order games. Base your purchases on impressions, not on feelings.

BBPunjabi816 · Sep 30, 2016

That seems kind of strange. Maybe I'm missing something but I saw a Mafia 3 Collector's edition unboxing on IGN yesterday. They can't use that disc to review the game (unless there is an embargo of course)?

cyba89 · Sep 30, 2016

Zach · Sep 30, 2016

In my top three most anticipated, but I definitely won't purchase in advance now.

Soulflarz · Sep 30, 2016

Intheflorsh said:
There have been loads of exceptions.

Please give wall of exampl-
wait, nah, it's not important, that doesn't affect the original point really if it's one exception vs a few, I'm pretty sure no pre review usually=bad game.

Drewfonse · Sep 30, 2016

Ooof. I really, REALLY hope this game turns out well

Greatest Ever · Sep 30, 2016

styl3s said:
thatsbait.gif

Is there a list of games that was critically a success that didn't get review copies? Because i have a hard time believing Doom is the only exception it seems like people only remember bad games im sure there have been a bunch of great games that didn't get review copies. I'm not worried because everyone i know who has played had nothing but nice things to say.

Not bait, the way its predecessor is so bad would not surprise me in the slightest if this one is as well. No early reviews could mitigate that.

piratepwnsninja · Sep 30, 2016

Isn't this pretty standard for 2k Games in general?

psychotron · Sep 30, 2016

Will wait on GAF impressions. Did the same for Doom.

DeathSparks · Sep 30, 2016

Well that's strange, I'm hoping that means it's still good

robotrock · Sep 30, 2016

Soulflarz said:
Please give wall of exampl-
wait, nah, it's not important, that doesn't affect the original point really if it's one exception vs a few, I'm pretty sure no pre review usually=bad game.

It doesn't mean anything. Bad video games are given to press before launch all the time.

meerak · Sep 30, 2016

I hope this trend continues.

No review copies is one of the many ingredients we need to kill the "Day 1 Obsession" that plagues our industry.

DOWN · Sep 30, 2016

So the internal mock reviews were weak? Or their deva forgot AF and other tech stuff like BioShock Collection?

Bad7667 · Sep 30, 2016

piratepwnsninja said:
Isn't this pretty standard for 2k Games in general?

I don't think so. Pretty sure Xcom 2 had reviews before release and Civilization 6 is getting played by streamers well before its release.

Mattenth · Sep 30, 2016

meerak said:
I hope this trend continues.

No review copies is one of the many ingredients we need to kill the "Day 1 Obsession" that plagues our industry.

So you're saying that no review viewings of movies would cause a decrease in midnight and day 1 attendees?

I don't think your statement logically connects. Those buying on day 1 are fans who've fallen for the excitement and marketing of the studio. Withholding review copies doesn't benefit them at all.

The Dear Leader · Sep 30, 2016

I got the Digital Deluxe Edition pre-ordered, I'll let you guys know how it is.

Nzyme32 · Sep 30, 2016

One of the few games that I've pre-ordered, and most of the reason for doing so is for being a big fan of the previous games and having a guaranteed refund on Steam should the worst case scenario occur of a crap game / unacceptable performance / features etc.

Not having reviews out before hand in suspicious to me, so all the better than I have that refund option at the ready, but I still hope for the best, as Mafia 1 and 2 were one of a kind

robotrock · Sep 30, 2016

Bad7667 said:
I don't think so. Pretty sure Xcom 2 had reviews before release and Civilization 6 is getting played by streamers well before its release.

That Civ 6 embargo is amazing

Anung · Sep 30, 2016

I'll wait for word of mouth and a sale then.

ElMexiMerican · Sep 30, 2016

Should be getting the game through Gamefly once it releases, hopefully its not a mess but I will definitely post my impressions when I get my hands on it.

LookAtMeGo · Sep 30, 2016

Probably a game changing day one patch >.>

black070 · Sep 30, 2016

Ruh roh.

LAM09 · Sep 30, 2016

Never a good idea IMO

DeathSparks · Sep 30, 2016

It's funny because they previously had this on the Steam page and had Youtuber's playing the game early, although that's common with most games the fact of the matter is that this is really scummy of the publisher 2K

outunderthestars · Sep 30, 2016

Anyone who has a preorder should cancel.

Nitty_Grimes · Sep 30, 2016

meerak said:
I hope this trend continues.

No review copies is one of the many ingredients we need to kill the "Day 1 Obsession" that plagues our industry.

But...

If I get the 'day one' edition I'll get (probably) a free leather jacket, a gun, a car and some other items in game that I wont be able to get otherwise (or at least a couple of months when they start charging for all that content anyway)

Via GAME for example:

Pre-Order Bonus:
Judge, Jury and Executioner: Receive 3 exclusive weapons with 30 day early access.
Family Kick-Back: Building a criminal empire takes muscle and firepower. Receive 3 exclusive vehicles and weapons.

Sizzel · Sep 30, 2016

What would be a legit reason for this? aka game is GOTY they just don;t want to show it early and generate hype because...?

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