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Final Fantasy XV Broke Even with Development Costs on Day One
- Thread starter DarkLordMalik
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Some Nobody
Junior Member
Believable. Final Fantasy XV entered development in like, 2012? Final Fantasy Versus XIII was just written off as sunk costs.
rocketskates
Member
Nice
DarkLordMalik
Member
You will never get sold-through numbers from Square Enix.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
Imp the Dimp
Member
Very good game and a worthy modern entry of a classic series. Flawed but fun.
WhateverItTakes
Banned
They must be discounting when the project was Versus XIII, I would be very surprised if this is true.
miller.skippins
Banned
Nice...but what about the development cost of Final Fantasy Versus 13 though?
DarkLordMalik
Member
Even if so, Versus XIII never had an active development team for the most part.
They must be discounting when the project was Versus XIII, I would be very surprised if this is true.
BossDarkseid
Member
Wow, that's pretty impressive.
Even if it was only in development since...mid 2013 or whatever, you could be forgiven for thinking it'd still manage to be some slightly crazy overbudget mess.
Congrats
Even if it was only in development since...mid 2013 or whatever, you could be forgiven for thinking it'd still manage to be some slightly crazy overbudget mess.
Congrats
Disagree Guy
Member
It didn't exactly sell blockbuster numbers
It broke even on day one
Why the hell did it take so bloody long?
It's not even like they threw loads of money at it. It sounds like it was just a tiny team?
It broke even on day one
Why the hell did it take so bloody long?
It's not even like they threw loads of money at it. It sounds like it was just a tiny team?
Not the sold number - but what they actually spend on the game and all its versions starting with Versus.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Are you serious? Final Fantasy isn't going any where.
Aeriscloud
Banned
Fantastic news.
Now if only it had broken even on quality.
Now if only it had broken even on quality.
isaacnukem
Member
Great news for them, they can finally afford to finish the game!
So a game has to sell COD levels to be a blockbuster now? Didn't it sell 6+ million?
Napalm_Frank
Member
Does ''development cost'' include crazy stuff like Kingsglaive ect doe.
Less stuff like that in the future the better, even if I enjoyed the film somewhat. Put that money into actual marketing instead.
Less stuff like that in the future the better, even if I enjoyed the film somewhat. Put that money into actual marketing instead.
Ninja Kn1ght
Member
Versus XIII, however.....
Jokes aside, I'm glad this has turned out to be a success, the series needed the win after a rocky few years. Congrats to Tabata and the team for taking on a huge task and getting it done!
Jokes aside, I'm glad this has turned out to be a success, the series needed the win after a rocky few years. Congrats to Tabata and the team for taking on a huge task and getting it done!
Jarod McChicken
Member
Just for additional context, Square Enix has already reach 17 billion yen net income for april-december 2016, and they are in great position to break their fiscal year record (19 billion yen last year).
So if some still want to imagine that FF15 has been a financial disaster, go for it, but the numbers are here
So if some still want to imagine that FF15 has been a financial disaster, go for it, but the numbers are here
brickarts295
Member
Excellent. Now let's just close this chapter and move along. The Versus XIII/XV ride has been a long one, too long in fact.
Time to begin XV-2 or XVI SE.
Time to begin XV-2 or XVI SE.
onemanasylum
Banned
Good, despite the flaws it's a really fun game.
BossDarkseid
Member
No, just that they sold what they needed to break even on Day One. I seem to remember an interview from Tabata where he mentioned that when he came onboard in 2013 they gave themselves 2016 as the release year, so they'd have roughly a 24-36 month development cycle, and also gave themselves a budget. He mentioned that while everyone would expect that the game would be incredibly expensive to make an approaching GTA style numbers (but not for the same reasons ofc) it was actually far far cheaper because Versus XIII had basically never had a full development staff behind it.
I seem to remember reading somewhere that Kingsglaive was included in the budget, but I could be wrong.
CoffeeExpress
Member
how much has it sold now ? it's done pretty well I think
They must be discounting when the project was Versus XIII, I would be very surprised if this is true.
It's been stated that Versus XIII was just a small pre-production team creating art, some assets, and the CGI trailers that were shown in various conferences.
If you really want to believe there has been a team of over one hundred people working in the game since two years before the first trailer was shown, you are free to believe it, honestly. But I don't understand why people keep pushing this narrative when there is an official stance that says that the bulk of the game started in 2012-2013.
Some people may have chosen not to believe it. And it's okay. But every thread about FFXV is a continuous spread of misinformation and conspirancy theories.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
Triggerhappytel
Member
This is true. Also, note how he says development costs, and not marketing costs - which were probably a similar figure over again.
Disagree Guy
Member
6+ million is good sales but it's nowhere near the heights some other titles reach
It's good - not a blockbuster
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
Someone will try to spin this as negative
NinjaCoachZ
Member
This all sounds right to me, including the part about Kingsglaive. The fact that Versus XIII never truly entered full development is a big thing that's key to remember. I'm not sure if Brotherhood was counted as part of the budget or not but I wouldn't be surprised if it was.
Well done SE.
DarkLordMalik
Member
How many RPGs have sold 6+ million?
6+ million is also a number that is the average for most FFs, unless you think they were never 'blockbuster' franchise.
Clearly it hasn't been in development for 10+ years.
Those people were used for other projects in the mean time (fixing FFXIV, and such).
DarkLordMalik
Member
Too late『Inaba Resident』;229871463 said:
Brotherhood looked very cheap to produce judging from its animation.
Disagree Guy
Member
Yeah that's a fair point. About average for the series and good for the JRPG genre I suppose.
DrunkShogun
Member
Good to hear. The game had some flaws but it didn't derserve to fail commercially.
It's great to see but let's not pretend things weren't looking dicey back there. 10 years in development...Tabata and his team needed to deliver. The pressure must've been off the charts.
Anyway, I'm glad we can put this game behind us. The fact that SEnix made money is cherry on top.
I'm so looking forward to see what they can muster without Fabula Crystallis/Versus/Luminous baggage weighing them down.
Anyway, I'm glad we can put this game behind us. The fact that SEnix made money is cherry on top.
I'm so looking forward to see what they can muster without Fabula Crystallis/Versus/Luminous baggage weighing them down.
TRUE ORDER
Member
Nice!
Now they need to keep updating it with good content.
Now they need to keep updating it with good content.
onemanasylum
Banned
You can say that about most games...and it isn't going to stop selling, it is at 6 now, it will end up with more lifetime. It is going to end up one of the better selling FF games in the franchise.
mocolostrocolos
Member
Good for them!
The Last One
Member
NinjaCoachZ
Member
Oh no doubt. Aren't A-1 Pictures known as more of a "budget" studio?