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DOWN · Mar 29, 2017

They are reminiscent of blockbuster comedy films which have rules that include basic color tuning and avoidance of atmospherics, particularly lingering or contemplative shots and audio sequences.

They often look alike despite different directors on some of them (was it Joss Whedon who hinted at the lack of personal freedom?) and have good effects in many cases but there's no surprise in why people call them "committee films" or "look like TV shows."

They just don't have much style. It's as basic as an American family action movie can be.

Hell, if Guardians of the Galaxy didn't take place in such a different setting from the Avengers umbrella, those dance off bullshit scenes at the end would look like they used the same procedure booklet to shoot as all the other basic colored daytime normality that is the MCU.

Spill ya thoughts - I am one of those style IS substance people who basically screams like an excited little girl inside at certain shots in Atonement or Children of Men or even the good sis Zack Snyder's WATCHMEN.

EDIT: don't get distracted by a hype shot thanks

Slayven · Mar 29, 2017

That scene still is hype as fuck

Fuu · Mar 29, 2017

It's not supposed to change your mind, but this is a nice thread:

The MCU Screencap Thread

Pai Pai Master · Mar 29, 2017

You really just started a reaction thread to shit on one of the most hype moments in comic book movie history?

I feel they've improved since Phase 2. Each Phase 3 movie so far has had a pretty unique visual style - Guardians 2 looks like it's on another level. I hope Thor Ragnarok really sets itself apart because I loved how Hunt for the Wilderpeople looked.

Ahasverus · Mar 29, 2017

I blame digital.

The First Avenger is hands down the best looking movie of the MCU, and it's no coincidence it was shot on film.

Haunted said:
I mean at the end of the day they're still comic book movies.

They aren't exactly trying to be Kubrick.

But if a CBM aspired to do something greater?

Haunted · Mar 29, 2017

I mean at the end of the day they're still comic book movies.

They aren't exactly trying to be Kubrick.

Betty · Mar 29, 2017

Looked fine in the film, and that continuous sequence of them all fighting in new york is great.

I also don't want dark and grungy for these films, I enjoy the colour.

bemusedchunk · Mar 29, 2017

Another reason why Marvel films will never win any Oscars.

Icolin · Mar 29, 2017

Not the best example to pick when it comes to lacking cinematographic style. That scene was mad hype.

On the whole though, I agree with you, but it doesn't hinder my enjoyment of the movies. It does hinder them from going beyond being just a comic book movie, unlike TDK trilogy and Logan.

EdibleKnife · Mar 29, 2017

Pai Pai Master said:
You really just started a reaction thread to shit on one of the most hype moments in comic book movie history?

This. Like what, dawg? That shot was amazing. Right for the characters, tone of the movie and that very moment

stuminus3 · Mar 29, 2017

DOWN said:
They just don't have much style. It's as basic as an American family action movie can be.

Maybe that IS the intended style.

DOWN · Mar 29, 2017

Slayven said:
That scene still is hype as fuck

I loved the idea but I hate how the movie looks

stuminus3 said:
Maybe that IS the intended style.

Tragic

Seesaw15 · Mar 29, 2017

Looks pretty good for a tv show

/s

Corpekata · Mar 29, 2017

This is an incredibly hot take that has not been expressed a thousand times.

Next up: Marvel movies have lame villains.

Ridley327 · Mar 29, 2017

I think that they've been steadily getting more and more interesting when it comes to photography, and I think for its other faults, Doctor Strange definitely has some remarkable visuals going on throughout, especially within the last 20 minutes of the film. That being said, it's rare when tentpole films do something unusual and exciting with the cinematography, so I'm not prepared to declare it a problem that's exclusive to Marvel Studios.

Poor GRIMES · Mar 29, 2017

Slayven said:
That scene still is hype as fuck

In context of the film, sure.

But it's not a very pretty shot.

John Kowalski · Mar 29, 2017

form is content

jelly · Mar 29, 2017

They do look cheap as hell a lot of the time but it mostly works for what they are. I think I'm more bored of the action than cinematography to be honest but suppose you could link the two to some degree.

Fancy Clown · Mar 29, 2017

Haunted said:
I mean at the end of the day they're still comic book movies.

They aren't exactly trying to be Kubrick.

That's a pretty lazy excuse. Look at stuff like The Dark Knight, Spider Man 2, or Logan. They're all shot much, much, better.

plainr_ · Mar 29, 2017

I can agree, if we were only talking about the first Avengers movie. The rest seem fine.

HeartlessNobody213 · Mar 29, 2017

There was a video on this already

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hpWYtXtmEFQ

icespide · Mar 29, 2017

is cinematographic a word?

Sulik2 · Mar 29, 2017

Did you not watch Dr strange or Antman?

ebullientprism · Mar 29, 2017

LOL did you write this because of the other thread that bashed DCEU? The timing is a little suspect.

Busty · Mar 29, 2017

Let's just say that Marvel Studios have a set way of doing things which others have had trouble adapting to.

What's the word I'm looking for..., regimented. Yes, that's it, regimented. They have a very specific, regimented way of working and this is the result.

Still, you can't argue with the results.

Icolin · Mar 29, 2017

Fancy Clown said:
That's a pretty lazy excuse. Look at stuff like The Dark Knight, Spider Man 2, or Logan. They're all shot much, much, better.

This right here.

Even BvS, for how bad it was/is, has shots and visuals that stay with me after the movie, unlike most MCU movies, barring maybe Avengers and Doctor Strange.

Ahasverus · Mar 29, 2017

plainr_ said:
I can agree, if we were only talking about the first Avengers movie. The rest seem fine.

Completely unexcting. Why is everything so grey and washed out.

And before somebody calls "Oh you want them to go Snyder style" don't forget there was a filmaker who already acomplished the perfect balance with an iconic marvel character

Meanwhile, in 2017

aBarreras · Mar 29, 2017

what was the scene?!

Yawnny · Mar 29, 2017

I agree with OP. Kenneth fucking Branagh directed Thor and it looks like every other candy coated superhero movie. This is the guy who directed and started in Hamlet for christ sake..

That being said I still enjoy the Marvel movies.

Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku! · Mar 29, 2017

Thankfully we have Zack Snyder to make up for it

Pai Pai Master · Mar 29, 2017

ebullientprism said:
LOL did you write this because of the other thread that bashed DCEU?

This happens like every time there is a thread specifically attacking a Marvel or DC movie lol, we really are back in the golden age of comic books

sankt-Antonio · Mar 29, 2017

Could be interesting to some of you

icespide · Mar 29, 2017

Ahasverus said:
Completely unexcting. Why is everything so grey and washed out.

And before somebody calls "Oh you want them to go Snyder style" don't forget there was a filmaker who already acomplished the perfect balance with an iconic marvel character

Meanwhile, in 2017

What's wrong with the homecoming pic? I don't get it
Edit: oh nice stealth edit

Haly · Mar 29, 2017

I feel like that milqutoastness is the style of the Marvel films. It creates approachability.

Blader · Mar 29, 2017

ebullientprism said:
LOL did you write this because of the other thread that bashed DCEU? The timing is a little suspect.

That Snyder bashing could not stand unchallenged!!

- J - D - · Mar 29, 2017

They used to up to around the first Thor. Then the Avengers happened and everything after followed suit.

Haunted · Mar 29, 2017

Fancy Clown said:
That's a pretty lazy excuse. Look at stuff like The Dark Knight, Spider Man 2, or Logan. They're all shot much, much, better.

what I'm trying to say is that Marvel revels in their comic book roots and shoot for maximum mainstream appeal, raking in the billions doing so.

Dark Knight and Watchmen aren't comic book movies in that sense, even though they share the source medium, they're vastly different takes on it.

DOWN · Mar 29, 2017

icespide said:
is cinemotagraphic a word?

no but cinematographic is

f0lken · Mar 29, 2017

Ahasverus said:
Completely unexcting. Why is everything so grey and washed out.

And before somebody calls "Oh you want them to go Snyder style" don't forget there was a filmaker who already acomplished the perfect balance with an iconic marvel character

Meanwhile, in 2017

Nice posting a pic that detracts from your argument and then editing your post

spuckthew · Mar 29, 2017

You know, I started watching Age of Ultron in bed the other night and thought exactly the same thing during the opening sequence. They're shallow, they lack style, and the humour they [try to] incorporate is bland.

That isn't to say they're not entertaining or good (they are), but thought-provoking artistic cinema you will not find.

Deepwater · Mar 29, 2017

the cinematography thing is a valid critique along with the coloring, but those alone don't really make them bad films.

I mean, they're not high brow oscar award winning wankfests. But who is expecting them to be?

Ahasverus · Mar 29, 2017

icespide said:
What's wrong with the homecoming pic? I don't get it
Edit: oh nice stealth edit

It was too compressed, but if you so desire...

One looks like the real world, the other straight from a PS4 videogame.

icespide · Mar 29, 2017

DOWN said:
no but cinematographic is

Freaking iPhone

blakep267 · Mar 29, 2017

I just blame it on the homogenization of Disney. Even Force awakens leaked the style the the prequels or th OT had. Disney tries to go for the realistic look too often

DOWN · Mar 29, 2017

aBarreras said:
what was the scene?!

The point was it doesn't matter which scene, if it's daytime - you already know how it looks

Pai Pai Master · Mar 29, 2017

Ahasverus said:
It was too compressed, but if you so desire...

One looks like the real world, the other straight from a PS4 videogame.

One of them is also a finished movie project. But you're not gonna find me arguing that Spider-Man 2 is a bad looking movie. It's a high standard all comic book movies should strive for.

icespide · Mar 29, 2017

Ahasverus said:
It was too compressed, but if you so desire...

One looks like the real world, the other straight from a PS4 videogame.

One is completely CG and the other isn't which isn't really what your original point was about I think

DeathoftheEndless · Mar 29, 2017

Busty said:
Let's just say that Marvel Studios have a set way of doing things which others have had trouble adapting to.

What's the word I'm looking for..., regimented. Yes, that's it, regimented. They have a very specific, regimented way of working and this is the result.

Yeah, I'm sure Marvel gives all of the cinematographers strict guidelines to follow lmao. You're full of shit.

.JayZii · Mar 29, 2017

And their music isn't so hot either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vfqkvwW2fs

Ahasverus · Mar 29, 2017

Pai Pai Master said:
One of them is also a finished movie project

The finished CW Spider-Man was disctractingly CGI-like, but here's hoping. I might not give two damns about marvel hero of the month, but Spiderman really deserves a great film in general.

icespide said:
One is completely CG and the other isn't which isn't really what your original point was about I think

Well yeah, if they're going full CGI they should try to make it look realistic enough. Even the lightning is flat.

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