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Aeana
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(08-27-2017, 05:22 PM)
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Apparently the prompt that you were carrying too many items was a random chance, and you could just try again.

https://twitter.com/icculus/status/901568322021593088
GhostTrick
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(08-27-2017, 05:24 PM)
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Context ?
Syril
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(08-27-2017, 05:25 PM)
WTF what an asshole game.
Oracle Dragon
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(08-27-2017, 05:25 PM)
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Wow really? Could this have been changed in later releases? I swear if I had too many things it would stay that way no matter what I tried. I'll have to check again it's been quite a few years since I played it last I may be misremembering.
Aeana
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(08-27-2017, 05:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by GhostTrick

Context ?

The text adventure game, Zork. I'm not sure what other context I can provide.
Hot Coldman
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(08-27-2017, 05:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by Aeana

The text adventure game, Zork. I'm not sure what other context I can provide.

Ban him for being young IMO
Crayon
(08-27-2017, 05:26 PM)
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No I refuse to believe this.
GhostTrick
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(08-27-2017, 05:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by Aeana

The text adventure game, Zork. I'm not sure what other context I can provide.



Thanks. :")



Originally Posted by Hot Coldman

Ban him for being young IMO



Eh, this thing was released 13 years before my birth. :")
Varjet
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(08-27-2017, 05:26 PM)
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That's hilarious.
Plum
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(08-27-2017, 05:26 PM)
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Jim Sterling just got the subject for his next video.
Tecnniqe
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(08-27-2017, 05:27 PM)
KojiKnight
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(08-27-2017, 05:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Aeana

The text adventure game, Zork. I'm not sure what other context I can provide.

This line of text would be a good place to start honestly.

It took me a few moments to remember what Zork was since it came out when I was little and I never spent any time on it. There are a lot of users here younger than me.
adj_noun
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(08-27-2017, 05:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by GhostTrick

Context ?

You Are Standing In An Open Field West Of A White House, With A Boarded Front Door.

There Is A Small Mail Box Here.

You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.
lucebuce12
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(08-27-2017, 05:29 PM)
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What the shit, WHY?
Crayon
(08-27-2017, 05:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by KojiKnight

There are a lot of users here younger than me.

And they are not affected by this devastating turn of fortunes.
Metal-Geo
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(08-27-2017, 05:31 PM)
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The button-smash fight in Samurai Showdown is also randomized. Games have been lying to us for decades.

Though I find this one in particular hilariously clever. Who'd try to pick up an item again after being told there's no room?
Professor Lexicovermis
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(08-27-2017, 05:34 PM)
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That's... actually hilarious.
Crayon
(08-27-2017, 05:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by Metal-Geo

The button-smash fight in Samurai Showdown is also randomized. Games have been lying to us for decades.


I FUCKIN KNEW IT!!!
Fuck.
.
.

Any more dirty laundry to air this morning? Maybe the monster rancher cd generated monsters where random?
UpUpDownDown
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(08-27-2017, 05:38 PM)
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Wow.

Was too young to even notice that. Lmao
Nerfgun
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(08-27-2017, 05:39 PM)
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*eyebrow twitch*

maaaaaan
Joe Shlabotnik
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(08-27-2017, 05:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Syril

WTF what an asshole game.

That's a fair assessment of most Infocom text adventure games, really.

I remember getting the Zork hint book and seeing those fucking maze exits that changed directions between rooms.
Narroo
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(08-27-2017, 05:40 PM)
Hm, I was saw 'Zork' in the discount bin in a used book store some years ago. I dodged a bullet there.
Syril
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(08-27-2017, 05:42 PM)

Originally Posted by Crayon

I FUCKIN KNEW IT!!!
Fuck.
.
.

Any more dirty laundry to air this morning? Maybe the monster rancher cd generated monsters where random?

The original Street Fighter 2 had random input windows for special moves.
IAmtheFMan
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(08-27-2017, 05:42 PM)
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Wtf. This changes everything.

Next thing you'll tell me is that there's no such fucking thing as a grue.
capitalCORN
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(08-27-2017, 05:42 PM)

Originally Posted by Narroo

Hm, I was saw 'Zork' in the discount bin in a used book store some years ago. I dodged a bullet there.

Might be worth something if it's the original @ good condition.
Ishmae1
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(08-27-2017, 05:42 PM)
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Grew up on Infocom games.

Mind blown. The first true betrayal.
L Thammy
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(08-27-2017, 05:43 PM)
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So Douglas Adams didn't design the first asshole text adventure, then.
ridley182
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(08-27-2017, 05:43 PM)
WTF D:
KarmaCow
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(08-27-2017, 05:46 PM)
Is there any reason to do this beyond being an asshole? Even as a placeholder thing they forgot remove, it seems like a shitty way to test weight limit message.
PdotMichael
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(08-27-2017, 05:48 PM)
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But that would be only one lie.
L Thammy
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(08-27-2017, 05:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by PdotMichael

But that would be only one lie.

It might still be full of lies if you get unlucky.
semiconscious
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(08-27-2017, 05:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by adj_noun

You Are Standing In An Open Field West Of A White House, With A Boarded Front Door.

There Is A Small Mail Box Here.

You are likely to be eaten by a Grue.

gets teary-eyed :( ...
NotLiquid
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(08-27-2017, 05:54 PM)
Can't believe we were in the dark about this all along.

Just the way grues like it.
Raticus79
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(08-27-2017, 05:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by Crayon

I FUCKIN KNEW IT!!!
Fuck.
.
.

Any more dirty laundry to air this morning? Maybe the monster rancher cd generated monsters where random?

Diablo 3 item property value rolls are the result of a single stored seed value for the item, put through a pseudorandom function based on the property type (critical hit chance, attack speed, whatever). As a result, there isn't necessarily any seed value in the number space that results in max values for all rolls, and the hunt for a perfect copy of a given item isn't necessarily achievable.

Fortunately they added the mystic which allows rerolling an affix type+value using a second stored seed, and recently primal ancient items which have max values for their rolls.

- dug into save editing on PS3 a while ago
Fantastapotamus
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(08-27-2017, 05:56 PM)
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What?
No

I hope whoever did this got eaten by a Grue
Baron von Loathsome
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(08-27-2017, 05:58 PM)
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Phu
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(08-27-2017, 05:58 PM)
This is hilarious.
Glass Shark
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(08-27-2017, 05:59 PM)
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jaaz
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(08-27-2017, 05:59 PM)
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Want some rye?
Glowsquid
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(08-27-2017, 06:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by Crayon

.

Any more dirty laundry to air this morning? Maybe the monster rancher cd generated monsters where random?

In Super Mario Bros. 3, the idea you can get different items in the Toad Houses by picking one of the three chests is an illusion as what item you get is only decided by the game after you open a chest.
IvorB
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(08-27-2017, 06:00 PM)
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Ah remember a time before graphics when gaming was literally just reading and writing stuff?
Tizoc
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(08-27-2017, 06:01 PM)
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Next you'll be telling me that the mashing minigame in SamSho 1 randomly chose the winner regardless of who mashed the most.
Frozone
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(08-27-2017, 06:05 PM)
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I just picked up this entire series because it's one of the games that led me to where I am today.

However, that isn't entirely true. If you got too many items that put your weight > 100, then you'd always get the too much weight message. But yea, I guess any total weight under 100 would get you this message. The real question would be how much did each item weigh, and how often would you get this message if your total weight WAS under 100? I'm playing Zork 1 now and have several items in my inventory and never got this message yet with very few items (i.e. sword, lantern, etc..) that seemed unreasonable.
low-G
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(08-27-2017, 06:05 PM)
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How'd its random function work?

I feel like we're making assumptions based on popular modern languages...
Hesemonni
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(08-27-2017, 06:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by GhostTrick

Eh, this thing was released 13 years before my birth. :")

Ban you too then.
Aurongel
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(08-27-2017, 06:07 PM)
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If (bullshit)
Printf("fuck that shit.n");
Aeana
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(08-27-2017, 06:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by low-G

How'd its random function work?

I feel like we're making assumptions based on popular modern languages...

This is talking about the random function in the z-machine virtual machine, which is defined here: http://inform-fiction.org/zmachine/s...ct02.html#four
L Thammy
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(08-27-2017, 06:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by IvorB

Ah remember a time before graphics when gaming was literally just reading and writing stuff?

You don't need graphics to look good.





(Second screenshot is from Kingdom of Kroz. Kroz is Zork spelled backwards.)
Sonicbug
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(08-27-2017, 06:15 PM)
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I remember carrying a shit ton of stuff in the game and never being told it was too much. I do remember not being able to pick up the coffin because it was too heavy.

Hmm. Maybe there was a level of luck to it.

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