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Ex-Sony spokesman: "You have to question the priorities of the company as a whole"
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pharmboy044
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Good luck getting another job in PR.
ShadowRunner
Member
Sonys PR has been petty lacklustre given the potential of many of their products, you know maybe they layed these guys off to get someone decent in instead? Hope so...
whalleywhat
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How many PR people would you have to hire to make people care about those games?
H_Prestige
Banned
PR is not gonna save the vita...
RukusProvider
Banned
Heads gotta roll somewhere...
yep....
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
This is also true. Never burn bridges like this.
lol
Neuromancer
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This doesn't make much sense to me:
I'm sure Sony thought that the Vita would do well, and adhoc is just local multiplayer right? What's wrong with that?
I'm sure Sony thought that the Vita would do well, and adhoc is just local multiplayer right? What's wrong with that?
Have you read there monthly PR statements in the NPD threads? They are definitely earning their paychecks.
He's the winner of Sony's reality show... and they laid him off.
That there is the sign of a company in trouble.
RukusProvider
Banned
Industry/corporate facing vs consumer facing.
Sony is a company under ridiculous financial pressure, and Playstation is not immune to those pressures.
Sony didn't raise the price of the new PS3 slim to "add value", they did it to add a few more dollars to the Playstation line item on their P&L.
Playstation has a bit of a tough rode ahead; Sony will need to spend less to make more, so things like PR staffers and marketing budgets are going to get axed.
Sony didn't raise the price of the new PS3 slim to "add value", they did it to add a few more dollars to the Playstation line item on their P&L.
Playstation has a bit of a tough rode ahead; Sony will need to spend less to make more, so things like PR staffers and marketing budgets are going to get axed.
grimshawish
Banned
Disagree theres not a benefit in cutting PR staff though - there are other companies that can provide a far better job for you and who can afford more of the very talented due to working with multiple clients as oppose to having to fund it for yourself.
The reason their laying off is their paying these other companies to do the same job an entire department would do.
Its cost effective in the end and I don't think Powers 100% sees this.
Sony is in a very difficult position, the idea the games section can be 'untouched' by cut backs is hilarious when you consider its monumental failures and massive costs over the years. Its not all about TVs.
Truth is Playstation has had 2 products that were entirely not for the market, this is not the likes of Powers faults, but its hard for him or his team to fix. Some of the rant in this context is a bit silly and Powers has a bit of fanboyism but hes obviously a Playstation fan. Within this I think his criticisms are a bit 'misplaced' but not unfair or necessarily wrong.
Agree on sending products out to die. Sony are not a functional company, when a product is coming out for release - it seems to take everyone by surprise. Look at the spotlight Twisted Metal got at E3 then the silence on release (yes, its out - I was shocked too).
The reason their laying off is their paying these other companies to do the same job an entire department would do.
Its cost effective in the end and I don't think Powers 100% sees this.
Sony is in a very difficult position, the idea the games section can be 'untouched' by cut backs is hilarious when you consider its monumental failures and massive costs over the years. Its not all about TVs.
Truth is Playstation has had 2 products that were entirely not for the market, this is not the likes of Powers faults, but its hard for him or his team to fix. Some of the rant in this context is a bit silly and Powers has a bit of fanboyism but hes obviously a Playstation fan. Within this I think his criticisms are a bit 'misplaced' but not unfair or necessarily wrong.
Agree on sending products out to die. Sony are not a functional company, when a product is coming out for release - it seems to take everyone by surprise. Look at the spotlight Twisted Metal got at E3 then the silence on release (yes, its out - I was shocked too).
They were worth every cent for the 'Playstation ecosystem' PR hail Mary
Schobeleth
Member
I never understood why they continually let their marketing/PR fall behind. They had some awesome moments with Kevin Butler and stuff but then came the hilariously bad Marcus PSP commercials, and the nonexistent Vita commercials, not to mention how several of their awesome exclusives like Starhawk and Twisted Metal basically got zero support as well.
Graphics Horse
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Do they still make them? I never see Sony's in the thread anymore.
Luxembourg BIG.
Mama Robotnik
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Sony's PR this generation has been a disaster. From "get a second job" to historically-accurate "giant enemy crab", to racist PSP adverts, to goats being sacrificed for God of War promotional events, to "Playstation family" NPD responses, to slagging off the competition, to not communicating during the hacking scandal, to demanding the IP address of YouTube and Slashdot accounts, to more slagging off of the competition, to blackmailing Kotaku, to tweeting their own PS3 security key, to pissing off the entire Linux community, and to most recently inferring that their customer base are idiots that do not understand that things are cheaper than other things.
I mean, shit. Who else, anywhere, can compete with that?
I really, really hope they get their PR act together next-generation. They can't afford to piss about like this any more, and the industry is better when they are a part of it.
I mean, shit. Who else, anywhere, can compete with that?
I really, really hope they get their PR act together next-generation. They can't afford to piss about like this any more, and the industry is better when they are a part of it.
Notoriously BIG
Books are heavier than 98% of video games, so yeah I guess so
It'll be big in Europe no doubt. The fact that SCEE is actually doing bundles for it and the 12GB PS3 and LBP Karting and 12GB shows which region has the superior management.
I came in to sheepishly ask this very question.
The idea of an individual game title needing to be handled by a PR person is slightly baffling to me.
Like a Vita title is going to phone the PR person at 3 in the morning after they got pulled over drunk by cops while driving in LA with Linsey Lohan.
StealthGoblin
Banned
Wonderbook will do okay. Lots of support on the way.
Correct. Don't conflate the positioning and advertising challenges Sony has had with PR. They have separate PR issues, although Will was always great to work with.
bigboss370
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i just appreciate the fact Sony has the balls to invest in those types of titles. and they've been consistent this whole gen about investing in risky/niche IPs, while at the same time having the big titles.
fluffydelusions
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I hope you're wrong here. I can't imagine what console gaming would be like without Sony in the picture. I love Nintendo and everything and MS is alright but they seem to be going in a casual direction. Sony has always been about hardcore gaming.
RukusProvider
Banned
You're blending PR, marketing and corporate into but you're right. All 3 should be gone.
It's not like they're going to be any better by under staffing them. They'll probably get immensely worse.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
J.K. Rowlings Big!
Also you got Mr. Powers who caught an awesome lucky break and got his foot through the door into the industry, and now some Twitter lines will be his downfall =/
Not many companies will wanna hire him