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Reggie on Fan Campaigns like Operation Rainfall: "It doesn't affect what we do."
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truestatic
Member
So it's true.
The perfect Dark
Banned
100% honest. I like Reggie.
FrostuTheNinja
Member
I guess that means no Bayonetta...
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ElectricBlanketFire
Member
Makes sense. I signed the petition with no intention of buying the games (which I didn't).
TheXfactor
Member
He's not wrong, seems like a good honest answer to me
MagicWithEarvin
Member
Yeah, I like Reggie too. He always has good interviews too, especially when Keighley is grilling him lol.
The Bankslammer
Member
So, reaffirming what we already knew but didn't want to hear?
Foxtastical
Member
That's real talk. Welcome to the video game industry. It's commercialized. This is how the buisness-side people think (and I can imagine, some creative people are pressured from certain business-side activities and thoughts, and vice-versa).
superpickleman
Member
So what he's saying is that we're never going to get Mother 3 over here?
RAGGIE
RAGGIE
You can't keep making games if you are taking a loss on them. It's true.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
It makes business sense to localize the game no matter what, as it's value as an investment for your reputation and platform for enthusiasts would pay off more in the long run than the measly profit from a niche game.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
He's right you know.
Just to break through the PR here, I will say it probably does affect their decisions to some extent. Not a large extent -- they certainly won't do something "for the fans" if they don't think it will be profitable, but if they are "aware", then it's improbable to claim they are completely unaffected.
For example, a fan movement could provoke them to look into something a little deeper -- maybe it's not a business avenue which would've been considered before. It's still Nintendo's decision through and through, but it was influenced by the outcry.
For example, a fan movement could provoke them to look into something a little deeper -- maybe it's not a business avenue which would've been considered before. It's still Nintendo's decision through and through, but it was influenced by the outcry.
Foxtastical
Member
You're in a commercialized industry. No matter how much anyone says "we do it for the gamer," there will always be the business-side pressures that partially drive decisions.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Nobody outside the very stupid are under the illusion that Nintendo is anything but a company.
Still think hes not totally right here.
Sure, 100,000 signatures don translate to 100,000 sales necessarily.
But to me it is also about creating some goodwill, and they would be investing in the future too.
Not everything needs to turn an immediate profit, sometimes u need to build a fanbase to work off.
It's the truth. With online petitions it's easy to produce many dummy email accounts just to pump the petition's numbers. Even if it's all real signatures, people who signed may not have interest or intent to buy when/if it actually comes out. Just like how people shouting DAY ONE in online discussions might not end up buying it at all.
Talk is cheap. Well, it's basically free.
Well, that's just dumb. Nintendo is a business, and nobody is saying differently.
Nintendo is just one of the few not attacking us with relentless micro-transactions, pay-to-win and other shitty F2P monetization methods - when they absolutely could be. Those companies, including Nintendo, should be commended.
And so they did.
Hours Left
Member
I think it's weird to strange to see people applauding this attitude considering the state of NoA right now. If this is the result of his "savvy business sense", then there is nothing to be cheering about.
There is merit in all types of games, not just ones that have the potential to be blockbusters, and to say that the only thing that matters is reaching a certain threshold of sales is extremely cold and narrow minded.
Attitudes like this is what cause the consumers to miss out an many great games, it's not something to be praised IMO.
There is merit in all types of games, not just ones that have the potential to be blockbusters, and to say that the only thing that matters is reaching a certain threshold of sales is extremely cold and narrow minded.
Attitudes like this is what cause the consumers to miss out an many great games, it's not something to be praised IMO.
sixteen-bit
Member
Cheesemeister 
It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that money comes first to a business. But it also doesn't make them devoid of care for their audience, either.
Considering the current state of videogame money-making-tactics, I'd say Nintendo are very tactful.
Lupin the Third
Member
Nintendo cares about offering products and value that keep customers interested, loyal, and giving them money. It's just sound business logic. I don't think anyone relevant to this discussion really thinks that "Nintendo loves you more than the other guys do"
Diddy Kong
Banned
Sad but true
You're greatly overestimating enthusiasts as purchasers. Everyone cried for Bayonetta 2 and new IPs but very few are actually going to pony up to purchase those games.
Hell there's more bitching about games like Wonderful 101 and Bayo 2 as Wii U exclusives than there are clamors for buying said games.
He's right.
Petitions can be a good thing if done right but even if you assume everyone signing those things will buy into whatever they petitioned there's no guarantee that the cost of bringing it over will live up to the end result.
This stuff ought to be standard for literally every company out there.
Petitions can be a good thing if done right but even if you assume everyone signing those things will buy into whatever they petitioned there's no guarantee that the cost of bringing it over will live up to the end result.
This stuff ought to be standard for literally every company out there.
How, exactly? It exceeded sales expectations here, released at a point where they were battling a software drought and whatever PR backlash they had was pretty well diffused by the time they released The Last Story.
Neff
Member
The Xenoblade thing is entirely plausible, but I don't for a minute believe that Nintendo thought "Wait a minute, even though we're currently putting out 50hz VC games in Europe, we could make more money if we switch to 60hz versions!" earlier this year, and I'm 100 percent confident that they would have carried on with their original plan if Miiverse hadn't exploded in protest at the time like it did.
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Deleted member 10571
Unconfirmed Member
Yup this.
Problem is Nintendo is bleeding money right now. They can't afford to take any more short term losses. Their shareholders are already gonna be frothing at the mouth after this holiday fails.
Feels like a mime discovering a butterfly I reckon.
If Earthbound on the Wii U achieves insane numbers, it will.
It unfortunately won't achieve insane numbers.
i thought that after F-Zero, Star Fox and Metroid ended up dead due to low sales, people were convinced that Nintendo was all about the money first.
unless there's still a very big vocal and delusional group twisting perception.
I knew that the headline had to be inflammatory and then I come in and read it wasn't in context. He even said they listen to the requests, it's not like they say fuck off. Of course a billion dollar corporation won't change a years worth of plans for a few lazy people who think a ridiculous online petition makes a difference.
Edit: There sure are a lot of internet MBAs here.
Edit: There sure are a lot of internet MBAs here.