More here - http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/...ifferent-game-inspired-by-the-same-ideas.html
Totally expected being that both are done on different engines and power differences.
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Forza Horizon 2 X360 - Same location/themes, No Weather/Drivatars, More details later
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More here - http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/...ifferent-game-inspired-by-the-same-ideas.html
Totally expected being that both are done on different engines and power differences.
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Fox Mulder
Member
I might end up playing both if they're that different. I'm still going to have a 360 for awhile with my backlog and no BC.
I may only get a xb1 this holiday at the earliest.
I may only get a xb1 this holiday at the earliest.
they drive like dicks
Freeman
Banned
Why would drivatars only be possible for Xbox One?
I understand if they are choosing not to make it available for 360 but pretending its not possible is BS. MS really needs to drop their failed PR strategies, it probably does them much more harm than good, it gives the impression they are constantly trying to deceive the consumer (which is probably true anyway, so I guess its a good thing they are not very good at it).
I understand if they are choosing not to make it available for 360 but pretending its not possible is BS. MS really needs to drop their failed PR strategies, it probably does them much more harm than good, it gives the impression they are constantly trying to deceive the consumer (which is probably true anyway, so I guess its a good thing they are not very good at it).
True.... The thing is the thunderhead reserve can only be used by XB1 apparently and unlike with TF were I think respawn are paying for it on PC and X360 even after the policy change for XB1 which devs got "free" access on XB1.
"Most importantly to us, Microsoft priced it so that it’s far more affordable than other hosting options – their goal here is to get more awesome games, not to nickel-and-dime developers. So because of this, dedicated servers are much more of a realistic option for developers who don’t want to make compromises on their player experience, and it opens up a lot more things that we can do in an online game."
Basically MS are pushing the X360 version. There is indeed nothing stopping it seeing as it's just downloaded data if am not mistaken.
Red Chocobo
Banned
I have a question for Forza 5 owners. Can you actually turn drivatars off and have AI instead? (Either through an in-game option or just unplugging your console from the internet).
Steverulez
Member
No.
Personally I liked drivatars, although I think they should offer a standard AI option if you really didn't like them.
Red Chocobo
Banned
arhra
Member
There'd be nothing technical stopping them from uploading/downloading drivatar data.
I'd be hesitant to say there's nothing stopping them from actually using that data, as it almost certainly uses a fairly large chunk of memory per-drivatar, and the 360 is going to have enough memory issues just running the rest of the game.
Omnii-chan
Member
Looks like I will be buying the Xbox 360 version then to get away from drivatars.
They were absolutely awful in Forza 5. I have no idea why the developers think they are a good thing, I'd rather have a dumb bot.
They caused huge AI pile ups, go straight off the track, spin you out, hit you and you're just trying to have a nice clean race. Stuff that.
Diablohead
Member
Drivatars were possible on the OG xbox, they are possible.
No weather is a shame but I guess they would have to gimp in other areas to get that in.
No weather is a shame but I guess they would have to gimp in other areas to get that in.
infinityBCRT
Member
They are not going to spend millions of dollars to port the Forza 5 engine back to Xbox 360. They are going to use the Horizon 1 engine.
nikos
Member
Well this wouldn't be a "can't be done" situation. It would be a "won't be done" situation.
TheAdmiester
Member
Horizon 1 was already pretty much pushing the 360 to its limits, weather most likely would've pushed it overboard. Considering they've managed to squeeze in the larger and more open map, I'm impressed that it even works on the H1 engine as it is. Fully expected and justified, IMO.
Doug Heffernan
Member
I'll double dip.
360 version this fall, XB1 version when I finally buy that console.
360 version this fall, XB1 version when I finally buy that console.
SuperSonic1305
Member
Drivatars are awful. I don't know how AI that drives like an online griefer can be seen as a positive advertised feature.
TechnicPuppet
Nothing! I said nothing!
Same, don't care about last gen games.
Freeman
Banned
What? that doesn't make sense this isn't the first game to use dedicated servers on X360, TF uses Azure also and seeing as it's just pre-calculated data done on servers what's stopping them using that same data on X360 in all seriousness?
Loooool.
Delusibeta
Banned
If Forza 5 is anything to go by, the 360 version of Horizon 2 not having Drivatars means that it's automatically the better version.
(That said, their reasoning for omitting Drivatars from the 360 version is blatant bullshit)
(That said, their reasoning for omitting Drivatars from the 360 version is blatant bullshit)
If I remember correctly, there was only one (yours) drivatar in OG Xbox, and it was offline.
And gimp what? framerate, v-sync, resolution? Of course the "gamers" will appreciate that. lol.
Fox Mulder
Member
it sucks since they sound god awful. They probably fit in a game like Horizon more than Forza, but seems like they aren't going away.
I was fine with the AI in past Forza games.
Zvonimir Boban
Banned
Generally the most dickish of drivatars are the people from my friends list who only played a little bit of Forza. The random drivatars and the one guy on my friends list who is a Forza king don't cause any problems whatsoever.
I just need to get better quality friends on Xbox Live I guess
Zvonimir Boban
Banned
I already know which handful of people from my friends list are going to suddenly ram me off the road while I'm cruising around.
I guess they will follow the behavior in FM5. Will act more agressive and more "alive".
Also they said that if you follow some friends drivatar, he can lead you to a new barn find.
Terbinator
Member
Okay, thanks.
Not the answer I was hoping for though
If you turn the difficulty past moronic, aka easy, the drivatars aren't crash happy and feel better than any other racer AI.
Diablohead
Member
And while it was only one drivatar it drove a ton better then these drivatars which don't seem to relate to your driving style at all, why can't we have that but with online sharing enabled for our AI?
I would say ram limits would be the biggest thing, they might have to cut back on textures, draw distance, anything to get it in there.
Red Chocobo
Banned
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There's a sweet spot for Drivatars - Expert skill has them challenging enough whilst not driving like idiots. Higher than expert they get very aggressive, below expert they take stupid racing lines and cause mayhem.
Red Chocobo
Banned
That's good to hear and has eased my worries a bit.
the hate for drivatars is silly. they weren't perfect in fm5, they were definitely too aggressive but its worth noting that people complained that the ai in forza has always been too aggressive and i dont find the drivatars to be much worse. they are so so much better than any other racing AI i've seen. they take their own lines. they have personality. they are unpredictable. they are a work in progress. i think with a few tweaks they could truly be exceptional - which is why i'm excited to see them return in a new game.
Hehe, would be halarious if someone's drivatar calmly tail you and then suddenly rams you off the road and races off
Oh snap, that would be kinda cool.
On a side note, this would remind me of how TDU2 worked with an option of going online in free mode. Sometime I would be trying to find a wrecked car and I would notice another real player was in the area (keep in mind these cars were far off the main road, so it would be kinda odd to see another player this far) and we would somehow work together to find the car lol
M. Rossi comes to mind. Man, he was pretty much my arch rival