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Castlevania: Lords of Shadow producer Dave Cox leaves Konami
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Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
I liked the first LoS, but the sequels..
ShogunDarius
Member
mecha castlevania incoming
I kind of imagine Kojima Productions will grow in size and become their de facto core, non-sports development house. They lost IGA, LoS2 seemed to be a colossal dud, and the man who pushed for this new version has just left. They also seem to have had a really bad track record with outside, non-Japanese developers with the first LoS being something of a fluke.
I could also see it as the series just dying entirely, unfortunately. Which makes the IP casualties of last gen possibly insane.
BouncyFrag
Member
I wish him the best. I should probably return to him his magical relics and powers.
Glass Rebel
Member
With Lords of Shadow 2 bombing and Cox leaving, I wonder what will happen to Mercury Steam and the Castlevania franchise.
Either way, good luck to him.
Either way, good luck to him.
He was already involved with LoS1.
Honestly with the original series rebooted, Iga gone and Konami being present day Konami I'd rather they just let it die at this point.
Gamer @ Heart
Member
Mercury steam reportedly lost a lot of good will during LoS2 development due to a ton of mismanagement. I wouldn't be surprised if that bridge was burnt.
I wouldn't call it a bad game, but it's certainly incredibly uneven. I paid full price on launch, but honestly it's only worth about $20 (which is easy to find). Combat is still great, but definitely preferred LoS1.
I could be mistaken, but I was fairly certain MS was done with Los after Los 2 and had made this known months before the second game came out.
It is a poor Castlevania game & a decent action game, at best.
Glass Rebel
Member
I can see that, even though they entered a long-term partnership before LoS2 came out. Konami can't be happy with the game's performance.
Yeah, they've said as much and apparently were working on a new game for Konami.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Did we ever find out if it was true that MercurySteam had allegedly signed a long-term contract with Konami? Of course, that was before LoS2 came out and bombed badly.
Good luck to Cox, I guess. Never liked him in LoS interviews; I wonder if the sequel's reception is partly due to him leaving.
Good luck to Cox, I guess. Never liked him in LoS interviews; I wonder if the sequel's reception is partly due to him leaving.
Konami not pissing away the good will built up with Contra 4 and Hard Corps: Uprising, ideally.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Cox is great. Good luck and enjoy your future endeavors.
Loved it. Had its flaws but overall it was great.
rockman zx
Member
I think he did a good job with Castlevania, LoS1 was great and LoS2 is good. Can't wait to learn about what's next for Castlevania, maybe the true death?.
I fear there's a good possibility. Unfortunately, both LOS: Mirror of Fate and LOS2 had low sales. Probably, the Contra reboot got canned too.
Triggerhappytel
Member
It would have been a Gears rip-off anyway, and Cox would have aggressively argued that it wasn't.
Saint Gregory
Member
Is it too late to bring IGA back?
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
The castle/past parts are generally good, while the modern parts are made of ass and awful. It's a mediocre, forgettable game, a huge disappointment compared to the original.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Bluemercury
Member
Kojima will ruin Konami to the ground...
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Contra is free to continue being irrelevant for the foreseeable future, just like all of Konami's non-Metal Gear/soccer games! Castlevania can safely join the heap alongside Rocket Knight, Goemon, and Zone of the Enders
Take this franchise back to it's roots. Give me some sweet pixel action, I don't care if it's a side-scrolling action game, or a Metroidvania, but do it like Shovel Knight. Put it on the XBLA, PSN, and eShop for Wii U and 3DS, and Steam. It seems like the logically choice, but Capcom won't do it.
:lol
IGA is independent now, and he seems really excited by that, too. I just can't imagine him wanting to go back, especially with Yamane and Kojima (not that one) being freelancers as well.
Having played both Shovel Knight and Azure Striker Gunvolt in the past few days I no longer believe you need a specific brand to make a game formula work, so I sincerely don't give a shit about what this ends up meaning for Konami and the already crippled management of both their IPs and the ones they took from us (i.e. Hudson Soft).
Castlevania when done right has a particular feel, that's what makes it special. No other game really captures that feeling imo.
tauroxd
Member
But the music and the lore are a huge part of what make Metroidvanias such awesome games, I feel like if I play a Metroidvania-like game I'm playing a ripoff because it doesn't have that awesome music and lore
Wonko_C
Member
Yessss more music from her is always welcome.
Cyber Caesar
Member
LoS 1 was magic, it worked, another instant classic. Cox gave us one timeless game that will be hard to be beat. It sits firmly as my third favorite game in the series. In order SOTN, SC4, then LoS.
Someone can always dust the old franchise off and give us a completely new entry.
Someone can always dust the old franchise off and give us a completely new entry.
digoutyoursoul
Member
All the best Dave
I know that, but they're dead, Konami isn't able to make good Castlevania games anymore, it's time to move on. If they don't do it somebody else will.But the music and the lore are a huge part of what make Metroidvanias such awesome games, I feel like if I play a Metroidvania-like game I'm playing a ripoff because it doesn't have that awesome music and lore
They wandered down the wrong path imo with Mercury Steam. Perfect time to correctly reboot the series.
As far as somebody else doing it, every Metroidvania or similar style sidescroller just doesn't capture it. I've played a lot of the games in the genre, including the ones you listed and nothing really compares. Konami has to do it right or you are right the series is likely dead for awhile.
Shmuely Bully
Member
They nailed this in the castle. The whole place oozed atmosphere with Overlook Tower and Carmilla's Lair having some of my favorite vistas in any videogame.
It makes it that much more of a shame that the development was such a cluster. Whoever the art director is who left I want him involved in the next game. Oscar Araujo too. Enric Alvarez can fuck right off if half the rumors about him are correct.
Callibretto
Member
I think in a few years Kojima Production will simply eat Konami name whole, lol. they rely on him a lot, Kojima now had his name attached in some way of form to Metal Gear, Winning Eleven, Castlevania, and now Silent Hill.
Konami without Kojima is nothing