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Far Cry 4's art is racist and the antagonist is (potentially) gay
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Basically this.
The Illiterati
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Yeah, just like when Quentin endorsed slavery in Django Unchained. Gotcha!
Admiral Woofington
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This thread is risky I think I'm going to largely sit this one out. It screams hammer time.
BananaSprinkles
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Agreed. Harley can Quinn me anytime.
This
demosthenes
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PixelNinja
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Oh lordy, I can understand people getting pissy about the box art but in-game is another issue.
If people are moaning about him being a white guy leading over a different race, good. If it pisses people off, this means it is a good start to a antagonist; from the box art alone, you can tell he is a "Bad Guy."
Now to the gay issue which is non-existent for the most part, we don't even know if the character is gay. The fact that people are making this off the basis that his suit is pink is silly enough. Nothing wrong with a "camp" villain, it is a characteristic that may have consumed the character and makes it a nice change of pace for western antagonists.
If people are moaning about him being a white guy leading over a different race, good. If it pisses people off, this means it is a good start to a antagonist; from the box art alone, you can tell he is a "Bad Guy."
Now to the gay issue which is non-existent for the most part, we don't even know if the character is gay. The fact that people are making this off the basis that his suit is pink is silly enough. Nothing wrong with a "camp" villain, it is a characteristic that may have consumed the character and makes it a nice change of pace for western antagonists.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Was there a huge outcry when the villain in James Bond: Sky Fall was a white gay guy?
Honestly: just assuming a guy is gay cause he wears a purple suit is kinda wrong in itself
Honestly: just assuming a guy is gay cause he wears a purple suit is kinda wrong in itself
Neuromancer
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Personally I think it's a great piece of promo art and has me pretty interested to find out what the guy's deal is what the situation is. I'm prepared to wait until I play the actual game before I judge it.
My biggest problem with Far Cry 3, story wise is
. Hopefully they learn from this mistake.
My biggest problem with Far Cry 3, story wise is
the game lost focus halfway through when they killed off Vaas
TheBaronOfNA
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Being fair, Harley can be quite annoying specially in her current Jugaloo style.
Byronic Hero
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Honestly, that's going to happen either way. Whether he's gay, racist, both or neither. These are Youtube video comments we're talking about.
KojiKnight
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If he's a villian and the goal is to remove him, how is that racist (aside from the character himself being racist).
This is the kind of bullshit that kept comics in the 70's from talking about drugs being bad because mentioning drugs at all was somehow on par with advocacy... a story about racism being wrong can't NOT have a racist in it.
jim-jam bongs
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My gut reaction is along these lines. An evil and flamboyant gay villain, handled smartly, who exploits the local population of another country for his own financial gains could be a really interesting character.
So the "white man's" motivation must be based on race because that's what white people do? How do you know that "white guy" isn't holding him down because he plays terrible video games?
Prince am cry.
SmoothRunningGun
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The issue I see with the picture is it portrays the idea that these poor natives couldn't possibly defend themselves from the white oppressor, so some white knight has to come in and save them. Now if the protagonist is one of the native people, then this issue would not exist. Let's see which way ubi went with this...
Interficium
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This is some next level concern trolling right here.
OP you are in too deep.
OP you are in too deep.
While I respect your opinion, and you're free to be offended by whatever you want, this is just asinine.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Chocolate & Vanilla
Fuck Strawberry
I think it's a little much to call it racist. Vaas wasn't a white dude, and his boxart was a white guy buried in sand, but no one said anything about that.
And it doesn't matter if the character is gay or not, at least not to me. What will matter is if he's a great villain or not and how well he'll use.
Unlike Vaas who was great until he died out in the first half. =(
This, too.
And it doesn't matter if the character is gay or not, at least not to me. What will matter is if he's a great villain or not and how well he'll use.
Unlike Vaas who was great until he died out in the first half. =(
This is the same Ubisoft that tasked you with freeing slaves in AC4 and it's two DLC packages that had two black lead characters?
OL RACIST UBISOFT STRIKES AGAIN.
really? please.
This, too.
This could be said in regard to every antagonist in every game.
Are germans evil because they're depicted as evil in games? And russians? And black people? And white people?
Cut people some slack. Unless we're talking about a complete moron, I can't begin to imagine someone who'll think that gay people are evil because they fought a gay antagonist.
5. Straight people can dress like this.
So much truth. What a shitty Op. Just the idea that people see this box art and think the things that are listed in that Op shows how some people have fucking scrambled eggs for brains.
Well of course, white people are evil, didn't you know? But honestly, people read into this stuff what they need to in order to drive their narrative. Obviously it's gotta be racist, obviously it's homophobic, and it's probably sexist too because that's what these people need it to be so they can cause an uproar where none is deserved.
jim-jam bongs
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Boom!
Masquerader
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Richard Hammond and Jeremy Clarkson confirmed for Far Cry 4. They shall play the two antagonists who double up as the comic relief. They attempt to stop the protagonist by a series of overly elaborate traps, and shout at each other when they fail. In the end, the true villain is revealed to be James May, who was manipulating everything.
IrishNinja
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go on
I don't see it as racist, but dark and tacky maybe even in poor taste.
But whatever, its a videogame and I know they need to shock and awe most of us just to keep our attention and moneys.
I hope this game looks even better then what they initially showed off for the Far Cry 3 ingame demonstrations.
They owe us.
But whatever, its a videogame and I know they need to shock and awe most of us just to keep our attention and moneys.
I hope this game looks even better then what they initially showed off for the Far Cry 3 ingame demonstrations.
They owe us.
TheBaronOfNA
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We don't know who the protagonist is... so is kind of annoying getting angry before that.
KillerIsJed
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Not sure what my YouTube channel has to do with anything. I have one channel that is zany characters and satire, and another that are let's plays mostly. What exactly am I getting clicks on here other than this thread?
Yeah, the guys hair is defiantly bleached. You can see the hair growing at the side is black. Also this is a guy who considers himself king of that country. The nose, eyes, and facial structure are similar to guy kneeling. The dude is Asian and not White. I bet you all a million bucks.
TangibleDream
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This is the most pedantic, deliberately obtuse, sensationally contrarian and borderline asinine thread I've seen on a while.
There's so little to objectively criticize about this whole thing, that it makes me think people like you, OP, ironically, are actually a sizable portion of the population that is holding true, transparent equality back from the claws of intolerance.
There's so little to objectively criticize about this whole thing, that it makes me think people like you, OP, ironically, are actually a sizable portion of the population that is holding true, transparent equality back from the claws of intolerance.
ultratruman
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So depicting something = condoning it?
All I see is a snazzy dressed dude, who is probably a mastermind, holding control over the grunt force the kneeling dude belongs to. He is probably holding a grenade because charismatic evil dude told him to.
I also think it intends to show that he comes from a different place than the kneeling guy, someone who has come in and has taken control.
But hey...thats just me. I don't see racism, and if he is gay, so what? Don't have to be straight to be a hero or a villain.
I also think it intends to show that he comes from a different place than the kneeling guy, someone who has come in and has taken control.
But hey...thats just me. I don't see racism, and if he is gay, so what? Don't have to be straight to be a hero or a villain.
I understand being cautious about how they may portray a potentially gay dude in the game hoping it won't be stereotypical garbage, but I feel like you've jumped the gun here.
Pretty sure this threads proves that Ubisoft has accomplished exactly what they set out to do with this image. It worked for me at least, I'm definitely interested in finding out more about those two characters. I think the art is fantastic.
Pretty sure this threads proves that Ubisoft has accomplished exactly what they set out to do with this image. It worked for me at least, I'm definitely interested in finding out more about those two characters. I think the art is fantastic.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
psychotron
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All this from one picture?
So let us look at this a second...
A white guy lording over a 'island native'?
Let us presume this is a bad dude... does it matter if he is white or black or any other colour under the sun? He is meant to be bad and lording over an oppressed regime.
In games you are meant to beat the bad guy... because he is a dick.
Darth Vader lorded over entire planets and was a douche. If we had pulled off the mask anf he was black instead of white or gay instead of straight, would it of mattered at all?
I think we are all too quick to call anything racist or sexist nowadays.
A white guy lording over a 'island native'?
Let us presume this is a bad dude... does it matter if he is white or black or any other colour under the sun? He is meant to be bad and lording over an oppressed regime.
In games you are meant to beat the bad guy... because he is a dick.
Darth Vader lorded over entire planets and was a douche. If we had pulled off the mask anf he was black instead of white or gay instead of straight, would it of mattered at all?
I think we are all too quick to call anything racist or sexist nowadays.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Bad guy looks like an Asian Julian Assange:
I just hope this game won't be another mighty whitey "satire" like Far Cry 3.
I just hope this game won't be another mighty whitey "satire" like Far Cry 3.
Admiral Woofington
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True Detective: GAF edition.
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