https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LLIQHs2RYE
has this been posted? Pretty much gona have to agree with everything he says =[
has this been posted? Pretty much gona have to agree with everything he says =[
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Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor |OT| One Title to rule them all
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HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Beat it.
What an epic ending.
What an epic ending.
gnarlyxcharlie
Member
Aah man.. As a huge lotr fan this dissapoints me
Meh, I never take neogaf opinions on game stories too seriously; I enjoy the story so far. My favorite are the artifacts that you find in the game, they all play memory voice overs that really add a lot of depth to the story. But a lot of people hate those types of story delivery systems in games, I never minded.
I had to turn it off when he started talking about how the combat was just one big quicktime event.
"Yes, combat is just a big quicktime event as long as you ignore all of the special moves and everything that proves me wrong."
The guy comes off as elitist and not wanting to like something everyone else does.
Turned it off after 2 minutes as he tries to dismiss all the other combat buttons he needs, in a fight against 3 lowly grunts no less. What a joke.
I wouldn't even really consider the Arkham games challenging even on he hardest setting. I only ever died when I got cocky and did something stupid, then got The Bat shot right in the face and watched him die.
Have yet to play Lords of Shadow 2, working on my Paladin run on LoS 1 after a break, but honestly the hardest part of that whole game was the damn DLC final boss. That bastard can kick the fattest rock he can find.
Does this game not have a difficulty setting? I don't know if I ever found it.
I'm a masochist with games though. Go hard or go home.
But I do hope that this game sells enough to get us a sequel or "spiritual" successor and that improve on everything from this game and add more things because it is a damn fun and great game so far.
matrixman92
Member
I am really having trouble grasping the whole branding and setup of the rank levels and stuff. I am trying to do the achievement for branding 5 bodyguards and turning them against the chief. I have just been going around branding random captains I found, I have about 4 so far...How do I turn them into body guards for a captain. I think the blue lines in the menu connecting some captains to a certain warchief mean they are its bodyguard? Can I switch them over to a different warchief or do I have to go find captains that are not bodyguards? How do I move them up through the ranks?
I found it funny that he couldn't even prove his point against 3 lowly grunts.
What a joker.
Why would it? It's some random streamer who's not any different from anybody discussing the game in this thread. He comes off elitest as all hell with that opening line "I play games at a higher level". Give me a break.
Like almost every melee-combat focused game, Shadow of Mordor absolutely does not shine when you're only facing 2-3 generic enemies. When you're taking on a dozen of them with some spear-throwers and berserkers and captain or two who are immune to your basic abilities, that's when it gets interesting. The game makes you take advantage of every tool it provides and in a number of scenarios it requires you get a bit creative with how you approach killing captains or a warchief.
ST2K
Member
I don't... what? How did that idea get to the point of being shot? Yikes.
Succinct Verbosity
Member
Seems like am elitist to me. He's Never played Arkham games and AssCreed games, yet plays way more hours than the average player? Okay.
He gets basic stuff wrong - the combat does get tougher at the end, and his description of the '4' enemies types is laughably off-key. No mention of the stun dudes, or immunity to certain attacks that Captains have. Or the other non-Orc foes.
Also, him admitting to never having played the Arkham games or Assassin's series is sort of not something to brag about if you're reviewing games...? Like, I'd trust you more if you understood the wider context of games being made right now. I mean yeah, that doesn't stop the combat from being derivative but the Arkham games had a tonne of depth. True, the main story never forced you to learn it, only the challenge rooms did, but I'd argue that some of the tougher enemies in Mordor act in a similar war. No way you'll defeat certain Warchiefs playing like that.
Ran into a wall when one of the initial warchiefs had nearly every possible Strength (no finishers, can't jump him, poisons on attack, heals from his own attacks, rapid fire, 1-shot me with arrows, etc), with his only Weakness being fear of fire (with no fire anywhere in the stronghold). I attempted (and failed) three times before I decided to just wraith stun spam with incomplete flurries to take him down. Took about 5 minutes for the least satisfying kill ever.
Hoping that was just a fluke!
Hoping that was just a fluke!
Simo
Member
There was a thought in the production that there would be a big backlash and letdown from the audience when your main antagonist or the big bad that everyone is trying to defeat and stop is only a giant floating red eye that doesn't physically do anything for three movies.
So that scene was a possible solution shot but ultimately changed in the editing room.
I guess I've been lucky in that I've yet to come across an orc who was immune to everything. Granted I'm now in the middle of the post-campaign completion journey of finishing up everything else, so there's time. Sounds like a nightmare
Brian Griffin
Member
Especially when the dude goes out of his way to have as little fun with it as possible. Sure, you CAN stand still and cycle attack/block/dodge forever until everything is dead or you can actually use all the cool abilities you have and have fun.
mdsfx
Member
It was condescending as a response to your "Well, this game is much too easy for a gamer of my caliber" post. And yeah, it is easier if you run, but as I stated before, I don't find it as fun, which is why the game is proving more challenging for me. And I'm loving every minute of it.
Some people play on easy, others on hard. Some credit-feed through arcade games, others enjoy the challenge of beating it on a single credit. To each his own.
He sounds a bit jaded but he makes a lot of valid points. When your game is 80% combat, you better have more variety, particularly when 3 Batman games have already been released. It worked in the Arkham games because it was new at the time and the combat situations were only something like half of the game.
Not that I disagree with the points he makes (I'm not a huge fan of the QTE counter system in modern games) but the combat is only as simple and lackluster as he's making it. At least try to mix it up with Shadow Strike, Brand etc.
I do agree that some more variety could do the game wonders though.
SporeCrawler
Member
he is a starcraft 2 pro gamer and commentator. he did not win a lot but he was one of the first players to use infestors very effectively like 2 years ago.
Jimmyfenix
Member
I am at 25 hours now and just made it to the 2nd area.
Killing the Black Captain was satisfying. Poor Rat Bag
SporeCrawler
Member
i dont know if its valid though. i watched the giantbomb quicklook and there was some really crazy stuff going on (a warchief and 6 captains showing up with like 40 or so orcs).
catotheyounger
Member
Finished it yesterday, and i am all on board for a sequel. Also, END GAME SPOILERS
I am disappointed that the game didn't venture north Mordor. I wanted Mount Doom in the background and Barad-dur for the taking. Maybe next game!
How is the environment variation in this game?
All of the screenshots, videos and streams that I have seen look the same. Desolate mountains and a few places with some bushes. Everything looks bleak and ugly.
I know this is supposed to take place in Mordor, but still, is the whole game like this?
All of the screenshots, videos and streams that I have seen look the same. Desolate mountains and a few places with some bushes. Everything looks bleak and ugly.
I know this is supposed to take place in Mordor, but still, is the whole game like this?
You see everything the world has to offer visually within the first 10 minutes. If that's a problem, then don't bother with this.
SporeCrawler
Member
overhype will get people dissapointed. its my first game on the ps4 since second son so im not regretting it. (now it has to be delivered to me...)
TetraGenesis
Member
Question:
So I want to restart this sword side mission, can you tell me if dying will give me the option to retry like a story mission or end up a consequential death like in free roam?
EDIT; Answered my own question by dying and fucking everything up.
So I want to restart this sword side mission, can you tell me if dying will give me the option to retry like a story mission or end up a consequential death like in free roam?
EDIT; Answered my own question by dying and fucking everything up.
Did you play through the story mission yet where you brand a guy. I tried before I did that mission and couldn't either.
NoirVisage
Banned
that explains a lot to be honest, no wonder his opinions are so "off" in the context of the type of game this is trying to be.
BrassDragon
Member
Faaaantastic. Thanks.
Tinfoilhatsron
Banned
Why should this be considered? Terrible, the system is enough and the game motivated me to try to find out the intel before fighting any boss. One was still dificult because he called in all kinds of enemies. Irks me because he sounds so damn elitist.
VFX_Veteran
Banned
Well, the complainers can always play the new Assassin's Creed Unity game or Dragon Age Inquisition and see if they like those repetitious and easy combat games..
matrixman92
Member
branded 5 uruks that are connected to a warchief in the menu(I THINK this means bodyguard)...I went to fight the warchief and he only has one bodyguard. What did I do wrong?
SporeCrawler
Member
i kinda question that a pro gamer actually has the time to play any other game then the game he professionally plays but then again he isnt really that high ranked.
keltickennedy
Member
I'm pretty much going to have to disagree with everything he said. The freeflow combat system isn't meant to be super intricate. It is meant to be accessible right from the start and make any player feel powerful. Then have depth for those who want to really get into it and see how high they can combo and how many different abilities and moves they and perform during one combo. Want the combat to be harder? Turn off all prompts.
NoirVisage
Banned
wow..after collecting every rune, you can actually start getting multiples of whichever runes you want..making yourself even more overpowered..yet another reason for me to get this game ASAP
I think it's my GOTY. It's fantastic.
RadioactiveLobster
Member
You probably started the Initiation quests but didn't complete them so they weren't bodyguards.
If you go to the details of a warchief it will show the number of body guards he has
Discotheque
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