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think Brutal Legend, but replace metal with hip hop/rap.

Five

Banned
I'd try it. Brutal Legend is a lot of why I got interested in metal (the rest mostly being Iron Man), so maybe this potential game would finally help me understand what people see in hip hop.

If it's an action platformer, can it be called Hip Hop'n'Bop? Pretty please?
 

neorej

ERMYGERD!
You know what be awesome? A wrestling-style fighting game with hiphop artists. Imagine DMX throwing down against Fat Joe, man, that thing would be off the hook!
 

d1ddy

Member
You know what be awesome? A wrestling-style fighting game with hiphop artists. Imagine DMX throwing down against Fat Joe, man, that thing would be off the hook!

Do you get some kind of thrill making jokes like these , Cause they hurt . These are the ones that cut deep into souls
 

Catalix

And on the sixth day the LORD David Bowie created man and woman in His image. And he saw that it was good. On the seventh day the LORD created videogames so that He might take the bloody day off for once.
If it had the same basic tone, premise, and imaginative scenarios as Hip Hop RPG, I'd be all over that shit.
 
San Andreas is the only game to get anything about hip hop right.

Licensed music related games have been awful, I'm looking at your games - Fiddy.
 

ArjanN

Member
It would be I imagine handled embarrassingly and end up very saints row esq imo. Not to shit on your idea op I love hip hop and would probably enjoy it all the same best case scenario would be if it didn't take its self seriously.

Watching the Cryme Tyme videos from Superbestfriends reminded me how many shitty attempts there already were at this.

Basically this:

I dunno, Brutal Legend worked as well as it does because Metal loves norse mythology, assorted monsters, dark stuff, massive opportunities for world and enemy design specific to the genre. What's hip hop/rap got that's not...highly problematic in terms of world and enemy design? Because the obvious locations and enemies are...not...going to go over well unless very carefully handled.

Sure, not all hip-hop/rap is like that, but the mainstream stuff nowadays kinda is.

I'm just saying you'd be more likely to get another 187 Ride or Die than you are to get another Jet Set Radio.
 

2+2=5

The Amiga Brotherhood
If good why not?
Hip Hop and Rap are not exactly my favorite genres so forgive my ignorance, but what are those genres' imaginary to base the game on?
Metal has strong fantasy and dark imaginary, what hip hop and rap have? I can only think of "gangsta", girls and money.
 

Mugatu

Member
Probably not - I do like hip hop and rap and many artists but I find the majority of artists and their BS, fake bravado to be extremely annoying.
 

Accoun

Member
Although I think this idea would work better with Pop music. The factions would be the fanbases. Little Monsters. Katy Kats, Barbz etc.

Fun fact: During development of Bayonetta, the placeholder soundtrack consisted of Madonna's songs.
 

Antiwhippy

the holder of the trombone
If good why not?
Hip Hop and Rap are not exactly my favorite genres so forgive my ignorance, but what are those genres' imaginary to base the game on?
Metal has strong fantasy and dark imaginary, what hip hop and rap have? I can only think of "gangsta", girls and money.

Genies.

Shaolin.

Aliens.

Jazz, with nujabes as the patron saint.

Some guy who wears a doctor doom mask.

Whatever the fuck de la soul is on.

And most importantly - love.
 

2+2=5

The Amiga Brotherhood
Genies.

Shaolin.

Aliens.

Jazz, with nujabes as the patron saint.

Some guy who wears a doctor doom mask.

Whatever the fuck de la soul is on.

And most importantly - love.
Thanks :D
Sorry if i take advantage of you but could you post some images of them so i can get an idea? I guess that rap shaolins are different from common shaolins for example, right?
 

Antiwhippy

the holder of the trombone
Thanks :D
Sorry if i take advantage of you but could you post some images of them so i can get an idea? I guess that rap shaolins are different from common shaolins for example, right?

They already made a game called wu tang shaolin style. :p

As for other stuff...

Outkast-atliens.jpg

GZALiquidSwords.jpg

nujabes-albumeps.gif

36fUS.png

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DeLaSoul3FeetHighandRisingalbumcover.jpg

Hip hop is honestly wide enough to get a whole bunch of weird art-style influences.
 
Outwordly what I remember Brutal Legend getting flack for was the RTS elements that didnt come together with the rest of the game, but did the story and characters actually work?


I love metal but it looked like a It's-decent-enough-if-your-into-Jack-Black-type-of-thing. Isn't it more his style of humor than Tim Schafers? I loved Broken Age and I actually thought about trying Brutal Legend.. I just never got around to it. People don't talk about it as fondly as say, Psychonauts.


TL;DR - Should I play Brutal Legend?
 

Nzyme32

Member
I would play the shit out of such a game. Brutal Legend does have it's fair share of issues, but the concept is golden, as it would definitely still be for hiphop and rap. Also a fantastic way to explore the genre with some great humour to keep it interesting
 

Antiwhippy

the holder of the trombone
Outwordly what I remember Brutal Legend getting flack for was the RTS elements that didnt come together with the rest of the game, but did the story and characters actually work?


I love metal but it looked like a It's-decent-enough-if-your-into-Jack-Black-type-of-thing. Isn't it more his style of humor than Tim Schafers? I loved Broken Age and I actually thought about trying Brutal Legend.. I just never got around to it. People don't talk about it as fondly as say, Psychonauts.


TL;DR - Should I play Brutal Legend?

Definitely, but I'm one of those weird people who doesn't mind the RTS aspect.

As a former metalhead (used to be waaaaay into black and death metal just to give you some idea) and the whole game just felt like a massive love letter to metal. Loved it.
 

ArjanN

Member
Outwordly what I remember Brutal Legend getting flack for was the RTS elements that didnt come together with the rest of the game, but did the story and characters actually work?


I love metal but it looked like a It's-decent-enough-if-your-into-Jack-Black-type-of-thing. Isn't it more his style of humor than Tim Schafers? I loved Broken Age and I actually thought about trying Brutal Legend.. I just never got around to it. People don't talk about it as fondly as say, Psychonauts.


TL;DR - Should I play Brutal Legend?

Yeah, you can probably pick up the PC version for pretty cheap and that runs better as well.

The RTS stuff actually isn't that bad, but it's more that it's not really what people were expecting. The best part of the game is cruising around the metal album cover looking world to an awesome soundtrack The writing is more Tim Shafer than Jack Black and Jack Black is pretty solid in this anyway.
 
Your character would be a break dancer / stage hand for various hiphop acts. One day he takes a sip of some super lean then gets transported to the world of hiphop physically manifested. DJ Kool Herc/Pete Rock/Grandmaster Flash/Afrika Bambaataa as your spirit guide. First area is a twisted version of New York, think Alice in Wonderland with some Moonside from earthbound mixed in.
Enemies would be exaggerated versions of 80s break dancers (think breakin'), dudes in costumes like the ones the furious five were wearing in the video for "the message" and pig cops. Your character attacks via capoeria (cuz he's a break dancer).
Then you just move thru the different eras with similarly fantasized interpretations; early 90s afrocentricism, the mafioso rap era, shaolin, the rise of the underground in the later 90s and early 00s, the rise of the west, the dirty south, Texas chopped and screwed.
 

PaulBizkit

Member
What we need is a game that has the world-exploration of the Yakuza series, mixed with DEF JAM fight 4 NY combat.

Like in the Yakuza series, you go around the neighbourhoods walking and discovering things. And when you get to fight, nearby people gather round and form a ring to fight Def Jam Style.



Plot: fight crooks, they are hired by the mafia. Setting: NY.
Fight the mafia, they are hired by an asian organization like... idk, the yakuza. Setting: Asian city.
Fight the asian organization, they are controlled by some ancient forces of evil. Setting: hell or the underworld.


Six big missions in each city a-la-Diablo.
 

robinsxe

Member
Imagine having a pistol battle with Jus Allah, or trying to take down Celph Titled while he is in his chopper with a rocket launcher..

Yes i would play that game. :]
 

Sakujou

Banned
Jet Set Radio, yakuza, rpg, some sandbox styled game. We have plenty of ideas but no Dev getting it straight. Wu tang shaolinstyle and gta are the only games which were OK. Would buy if something would exist.
 

Draft

Member
When I was a kid reading the Illiad or the Odyssey, the epic speeches given by the heroes of those stories sounded to me like modern day free styling. Clever word play delivering boastful declarations and emasculating challenges. I had the idea of a post apocalyptic world with culture based on the remnants of 20th century civilization. People living in the ruined husks of of NYC and Philly and Baltimore, having their own epic battles and adventures. Instead of speaking in the rhythm and meter of classical Greek poetry, hip hop would be their language. Bit of a goofy high concept (heh heh, very high indeed,) but still pretty cool IMO.

Anyway a game based on the narrative concepts of hip hop could be very cool, and of course anything would be better than that piece of garbage Brutal Legend.
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
50 Cent: Blood on the Sand 2 Confirmed.
Although I think this idea would work better with Pop music. The factions would be the fanbases. Little Monsters. Katy Kats, Barbz etc.

That actually was a really good third person shooter though. Regardless of the insane "setting". Dude got his diamond skull or whatever stolen lol.
 
If you made a game that took hip hop culture to parody levels of extreme like Brutal Legend, the game would end up being inadvertently racist as fuuuuuck. No one would ever make that game. Ever.
 
Thinking about it, the best way to go about Rap/Hip-Hop in a videogame is to integrate it into the presentation, not the gameplay. The Def Jam series was great in that respect, as it really represented the scene at the time: underground, merciless, and flashy. The mechanics really had little to do with actual rap, but the presentation was good enough that it didn't actually matter.

In that sense, the right producer could make it possible to enter a number of genres never before thought applicable, with the right selection of instrumentals/songs.
 
I mean Def Jam Fight for New York had you
throw Snoop Dogg out of a skyscraper
and there was nothing racist about it. Did Brutal Legend touch on some white supremacism in the game? If not then why can't the racially charged parts be ignored and simply focus on the love for the genre, as did Brutal Legend? I mean we already have genies, space cadillacs, dirty south, aliens, karate masters, cosmic/metaphysical imagery in lyrics, the Egyptian aesthetic, ridiculous characters and hip hop alter egos, and post apocalyptic versions of the modern day etc.
 
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