gundamkyoukai
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yeah UC4 AA is really good , should end up being one of the best looking games IQ wise.
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Uncharted 4 Gameplay Demo [Up: Sony - Was running at 30 fps]
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I try not to get into the graphic debate in this thread but this I disagree with immensely. It's a bad game which is also extremely boring. I haven't finished it yet and I got it for free
ps: but this is a topic for another time I suppose
I think we all can agree on this.
Reminded me of how clean God of War 3 looked at the time of release considering its platform and what was being pushed.
Dictator93
Member
You playing the PC version? The xb360 and PS3 have quite a different control and gameplay set up. But that is a bit OT!
LookAtMeGo
Member
It was a rhetorical question. I mean I think its pretty silly to scrutinize some minor details this early.
I think it does too
On PC. 900p 20fps? Pfffff, Uncharted 4 shits all over that.
Add Persona 5 to the mix and I'm with you
People compare Britney Spears to an artist too.
You're obviously in the majority on this one. It definitely had some issues and there were parts I didn't love but I still thought it was a solid game.
Gotdatmoney
Member
I would agree with that going off that gif. Not really expressive at all. The human face has so many subtleties in the way it reacts and responds, that gif does not evoke any emotion at all honestly. The Uncharted one is way better, leagues in fact.
CerebralTiger
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It may not necessarily be an extra 100% performance if the current demo was internally running above 30fps. If it averages at 35-40fps now, maybe they can get it to perform as well as Tomb Raider: DE (ps4) in a year.
I bet you actually believe this.
Nope ps3..but I can't imagine the game being 'that' different even on the PC surely. Story, enemy encounters, combat etc are all damn boring to me. I will try and finish it to see if I change my mind later but thanks to buying a bunch of games during black Friday I don't see getting back into it for a while
but yeah I'll stop there. Maybe once I finish it I will make a LTTP thread for it
They can use similar AA as Ryse's SMAA T1x, its really next level stuff.
MSAA is rather out of question in deferred based games.
Dictator93
Member
It is also not zoomed in at all, it is 1.4 seconds long basically, and he is emoting a single emotion. Hence why you cannot see subtlties...
And then you go to say it looks leagues better. Please on a technical explain why it looks leagues better (once again someone implying the generational difference in quality).
I recommend playing on hardest (Delta I believe). Drastically changes how you have to play the game. Won't affect story unfortunately, which I agree, sucked.
VFX_Veteran
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This thread is never going to come back to anything but the graphics so I might as well post this in agreement. The order's AA is awesome. Hope ND sticks with this.
The most beautiful game I have ever seen.
AstroNut325
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That TLoU shot is pre-rendered with 7-8 PS3s. So roughly 1.5-2.2TF of capabilities.I think the real problem here is that Naughty Dog is not using a brand new engine. They are just using an upgraded version of the same engine they made all their PS3 games on.
To expect a HUGE leap this early on in the console life cycle is unrealistic. As years go by and they get better with the hardware and keep upgrading their old engine, it will improve.
http://kotaku.com/naughty-dog-to-retain-the-uncharted-engine-for-their-ps-510638202
To ME personally, UC4 doesnt look much better than The Last of Us on PS3. It's better, but not by a gigantic margin. Yes, the below is from a in game cut scene, but so are the screens people are comparing from UC4:
This is realtime on the PS4 with 1.8TF:
About story, Crysis 3 was the first game where I skipped the cutscenes on my first playthrough.
And I was still annoyed by THE ALPHA CEPH anyway.
So yeah.
nowheretorun
Member
Yep agreed. Already done some of this with TLOU, then TLOUR and now gonna be doing even more with TLOUR so I don't expect anything to change with these fuckas. Tbf, I reckon a good bit of blame is down to Sony for this....
Kar
Member
They're the same people that looked at Uncharted 2 and said "meh".
I hope they dont have drivers license because their eyes are meh.
Dictator93
Member
Wait, are we talking about Crysis 1 or 3? Because Crysis 3 aint that good obviously, but Crysis 1 is pretty much masterpiece levels of gaming.
This is the second Britney Spears comparison I've seen today on GAF. The first one was to Da Vinci or something. What gives.
More OT: I think everyone should just go and watch the gamersyde vid, if they haven't. You guys are really doing yourself a disservice by forming your opinions based on only still shots.
It's a slower paced game, no doubt. It's more of a stealth game than anything else.
Also, the PS3 version is absolutely awful which I do feel would detract from it.
Crysis 3.
Crysis 1 is in my top 5 shooters of all time but I still think Crysis 3 was pretty good. :\
DarkLordMalik
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I dunno man, but I have played Crysis 3 so I am not basing it off simply from the GIF.
Look at the image below (PC version).
This was from gameplay and it looks super weird. Doesn't even come close to the realistic visuals of UC 4.
Lord Error
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I considered that, but it doesn't look anywhere near as blurry to be something like that. I mean, Ryse's T1x looked pretty damn blurry even in 1080p on PC, and it still didn't look this stable. Do we know for sure this is deferred, rather than forward+ like The Order?
I think it's really opinable call it a masterpiece of gaming. Never understood what people like of it, except for the graphic.
Mr. PlayStation
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And so it begins..
I have noticed a pattern with you, you seem to ridicule Naughty Dog's technical achievements in your past posts. Why?
martino
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Poeple aren't idiot .it is not because they compare work in progress things and release work they implie it won't change.
The guy thinks Unity looks better than the Order visually. Dont take him seriously.
Dictator93
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um.. your screenshot lacks a good AA. Hence why he looks like that... Also, I was comparing the cutscene rig and model on purpose. Because it is obviously a different ri in nearly everygame that isnt Ryse.
gundamkyoukai
Member
I also think UC4 looks better than ACU consoles wise , the IQ alone put it above ACU for me.
PC is another question altogether and ACU should have the advantage there since UC will not go on PC so they have to make do with 1.8 tflops.
For me IQ and frame rate are very important when it comes to judging stuff .
Because they are too much stable in the fps. Look how cinematic it's Ubi.
VFX_Veteran
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Just let them enjoy their reality of ND always making games that are better looking than every other game (including the PC).
Well, yes, it is an opinion. I enjoyed the fact that it was an open ended stealth action game. It was NOT open world and that was a good thing. It featured large, interesting levels with encounters that allowed for lots of creativity. The AI wasn't great but the game was still really well made. It's a blast to play.
It all started when Bono and friends won game of the year in 2009.
I get that a lot of people just can't tell the difference between very good keyed/computer generated facial animation and one that's done thru facial capture. But to say that Psycho looks dead in that gif?? LMAO that's just crazy talk.
HyperBitHero
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Everyone is damage controlling like crazy.
Unity's art is dazzling omonimo. Dont you know?? Lol
TheLostBigBoss
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Lol has this been posted yet?
Wrong thread, he's talking about this.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=947203
U2 and U3 were deferred.
Actually i found Ryse's AA much more stable than one in U4 gameplay.
Sure, it is blurry, especially on screenshots, but damn it gets rid of aliasing better than anything i've seen and i played games with downsampling and MSAA and postAA like Skyrim.
Gotdatmoney
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I don't know anything about tech nor did I mention anything about generations. I said it looks leagues better, as in far closer to a real person with actual expression and emotion in their face. I don't see why you need tech to compare a video game face to a real face, what qualifications do I need, a PHD in observing people's faces lol. People are taking everything so damn literal, I'm not shitting on Crysis 3, I'm saying I agree that the character in that gif looks dead and lifeless comparatively speaking. It's just one aspect, chill.