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SWTOR: Shadow of Revan |OT| "This is the final chapter in his story. Probably."

Cystm

Member

They released some new sound tracks for the expansion you can listen to Here.
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Ashodin

Member
If you've lapsed on SWTOR or something, this expansion is gud. The change up to the talent system and it being replaced works really well and feels just right. No more giant talent tree muck.

The changes to skills and addition of new worlds really sells the "expansion" theme, as well as the fact you can solo the instances needed for the lead up to this story.
 

Codex5050

Member
So he didn't die after that one dungeon where we beat him?

If you've lapsed on SWTOR or something, this expansion is gud. The change up to the talent system and it being replaced works really well and feels just right. No more giant talent tree muck.

The changes to skills and addition of new worlds really sells the "expansion" theme, as well as the fact you can solo the instances needed for the lead up to this story.

Is agent healing still really really hard?
 

graywolf323

Member
I really need to get back in, I have a sub right now and preordered the expansion even but have had no time to play

heck haven't even gotten around to installing it on my new Windows 8.1 bootcamp partition
 

RE_Player

Member
Anyone thinking about getting back in really should. I was having a blast a couple weeks ago and intend to play more over the holidays.
 

Corgi

Banned
Last I played was around launch.

I remember commandos were great, but you pretty much just spammed 1 attack.
remember melee was huge disadvantage compare to range due to having to sacrifice dps when avoiding aoe attacks... And holding aggro against multiple enemies was pretty hard on my guardian.
 
Been thinking about picking this up and getting back into the game, but I need to know one thing, first: can you side with Revan? Or is he relegated to an endboss again? I'll 100% pick it up if the former, but if the latter, no way.

So as someone familiar with the KOTOR/2 storyline, what's the deal with Revan?

Spoiler tags obviously.
Revan was a Jedi who played a critical part in winning the Mandalorian wars, against the express wishes of the Jedi Council who wanted no part in it. He (or her, but I'll just use he to simplify the pronouns, and because that's his canonical gender in TOR) and his apprentice then vanished, only to appear years later at the head of a massive armada, calling themselves the return of the Sith Empire. Revan almost conquered the galaxy before he was killed by the Jedi... or so they told everybody. In truth, they wiped his memory and cut off his connection to the force. Why exactly escapes me. But you actually spend KOTOR playing as Revan, unaware of that fact until you finally come face to face with Malak, your old apprentice, who's currently running the Sith. You later defeat Malak in a final confrontation, and vanish.

I'm not familiar with his story in TOR, somebody else will have to fill you in on that.
 
Can I buy this expansion with cartel coins?
Bought some during black friday amazon sale.
Unfortunately no. Just old fashioned paper dollars/pounds/etc.
I've always wanted to try this game... Is there a Mac client?
Not one now and probably not on the horizon either.
Tell me more about these dungeon solo modes :D
Basically they made solo modes for the two new tactical flashpoints and the last 4 tactical flashpoints that lead into this expansion story-wise. It's the same boss mechanics you would get in the normal group version. The only difference is that you have an NPC that will spawn with you that will kill anything in its path without breaking a sweat.
 
So as someone familiar with the KOTOR/2 storyline, what's the deal with Revan?

Spoiler tags obviously.

After KOTOR Revan heads out to 'deep space' to confront a sith threat that he felt. That threat turns out to be the Emperor. He eventually tries to mount an attack on the Emperor and fails. Not sure how much detail you want on that, but if you're interested, the story is told in the Revan book (http://www.amazon.com/dp/0345511352/?tag=neogaf0e-20). It's a good read. Suffice to say, he survives in a way. In TOR, Republic players rescue him, Empire players battle him, and he eventually becomes the big baddie of the new expansion. I can be more specific if you'd like.

Been thinking about picking this up and getting back into the game, but I need to know one thing, first: can you side with Revan? Or is he relegated to an endboss again? I'll 100% pick it up if the former, but if the latter, no way.

He's the end boss.
 

SargerusBR

I love Pokken!
So as someone familiar with the KOTOR/2 storyline, what's the deal with Revan?

Spoiler tags obviously.

Backstory ( Events from the Revan novel and SWTOR)

Couple years after Kotor, Revan left the galaxy in search of the Sith Emperor the one he encountered when he left to hunt the Mandalorians in the Unknown Regions with Malak. The Sith Emperor was the one who turned Revan to the Dark Side.

Anyway, Revan alongside T3 encounters the Exile and joins up with a servant of the Emperor called Lord Scourge. They face the Emperor but Scourge betrays Revan by killing the Exile while the Emperor destroys T3 and imprisons Revan.

Revan remains the Emperor's prisoner for 300 years, that's the time SWTOR story begins. A group of Republic players release Revan from its prison and he goes to the Foundry, a Rakata space station capable of producing an infinte supply of battle droids. Revan plans to use this army to annihilate the Sith Empire, but a group of Imperial players enters the Foundry and defeats Revan.

SPOILERS (Events from Shadow of Revan)

Revan is revealed to have survived the encounter in the Foundry and brings together followers called Revanites. Revan's goal is apparently to wipe out both the Republic and the Empire so the galaxy can be truly united ( or something like that i can't remember now).

To face the threat of the Revanites, both Republic and Empire joins forces to stop Revan and they track him to the planet Yavin IV. It is revealed that Revan's true goal is to ressurect the Sith Emperor (who died in the events of vanilla SWTOR) so that he can destroy him once and for all, but by doing so, the Emperor will actually have the means to destroy all life in the galaxy.

While on the planet Yavin, the player character encounters a Force Ghost of...Revan. What really happened is that Revan died during his battle in the Foundry but his hatred for the Emperor was so strong that his spirit was split in two, with the Dark Side spirit inhabbitating Revan's body while the Light Side spirit still is nearby.

In the end the player defeats Revan, his spirits merge together and Revan finally becomes one with the Force.

Sorry if this sounds confusing and poorly written, its nearly 2 am here.
 

Afrocious

Member
Wait a second,
the Sith Emperor dies in vanilla TOR? Which story? Definitely not the ones I played. Can't be Guardian either considering you kill what's apparently a stand-in or something or other. You fatally wound the Emperor but not kill him.
 
Wait a second,
the Sith Emperor dies in vanilla TOR? Which story? Definitely not the ones I played. Can't be Guardian either considering you kill what's apparently a stand-in or something or other. You fatally wound the Emperor but not kill him.

Think it's the Sith Warrior.
 
Wait a second,
the Sith Emperor dies in vanilla TOR? Which story? Definitely not the ones I played. Can't be Guardian either considering you kill what's apparently a stand-in or something or other. You fatally wound the Emperor but not kill him.
That's exactly what happens. The Jedi Knight "kills" him but if you ever do the Sith Warrior story you find out that the Emperor is only mortally wounded and is in hiding gaining strength again. This expansion is all about bringing the Emperor back as the main villain.
 
Wait a second,
the Sith Emperor dies in vanilla TOR? Which story? Definitely not the ones I played. Can't be Guardian either considering you kill what's apparently a stand-in or something or other. You fatally wound the Emperor but not kill him.

It's the Jedi Knight story. The Emperors 'body' is defeated by the Knight, which leads to people on both sides to say he's dead. The Warriors story details that he's not gone though.
 

Afrocious

Member
That's exactly what happens. The Jedi Knight "kills" him but if you ever do the Sith Warrior story you find out that the Emperor is only mortally wounded and is in hiding gaining strength again. This expansion is all about bringing the Emperor back as the main villain.

It's the Jedi Knight story. The Emperors 'body' is defeated by the Knight, which leads to people on both sides to say he's dead. The Warriors story details that he's not gone though.

Ah, I remember now. I forgot all about that in the 3rd act of the Sith Warrior story.

My first toon was a Jugg and it's been a while. I did remember the Guardian story since that was my second toon. Thanks for the clarification folks.
 

TraBuch

Banned
I bought the $150 collector's edition and played it the first month and haven't touched it since. I keep saying I wanna try it out again but eh, I dunno. I literally know no one that plays it.
 

dimb

Bjergsen is the greatest midlane in the world
Are the talent tree changes already implemented? I'll probably try to go back but my main character is like...stuck at 49 somehow and the quests just seem too hard.
 

Cystm

Member
So as someone familiar with the KOTOR/2 storyline, what's the deal with Revan?

Spoiler tags obviously.

Everything is detailed here
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The gist of it is:
Edit: what he said is more succinct/accurate:

Backstory ( Events from the Revan novel and SWTOR)

Couple years after Kotor, Revan left the galaxy in search of the Sith Emperor the one he encountered when he left to hunt the Mandalorians in the Unknown Regions with Malak. The Sith Emperor was the one who turned Revan to the Dark Side.

Anyway, Revan alongside T3 encounters the Exile and joins up with a servant of the Emperor called Lord Scourge. They face the Emperor but Scourge betrays Revan by killing the Exile while the Emperor destroys T3 and imprisons Revan.

Revan remains the Emperor's prisoner for 300 years, that's the time SWTOR story begins. A group of Republic players release Revan from its prison and he goes to the Foundry, a Rakata space station capable of producing an infinte supply of battle droids. Revan plans to use this army to annihilate the Sith Empire, but a group of Imperial players enters the Foundry and defeats Revan.

SPOILERS (Events from Shadow of Revan)

Revan is revealed to have survived the encounter in the Foundry and brings together followers called Revanites. Revan's goal is apparently to wipe out both the Republic and the Empire so the galaxy can be truly united ( or something like that i can't remember now).

To face the threat of the Revanites, both Republic and Empire joins forces to stop Revan and they track him to the planet Yavin IV. It is revealed that Revan's true goal is to ressurect the Sith Emperor (who died in the events of vanilla SWTOR) so that he can destroy him once and for all, but by doing so, the Emperor will actually have the means to destroy all life in the galaxy.

While on the planet Yavin, the player character encounters a Force Ghost of...Revan. What really happened is that Revan died during his battle in the Foundry but his hatred for the Emperor was so strong that his spirit was split in two, with the Dark Side spirit inhabbitating Revan's body while the Light Side spirit still is nearby.

In the end the player defeats Revan, his spirits merge together and Revan finally becomes one with the Force.

Sorry if this sounds confusing and poorly written, its nearly 2 am here.
 

Afrocious

Member
I wonder how the new raids are in comparison to the Dread ones.

I did see the final boss fight of the last raid in this xpac. I dunno how I feel about it. It looks pretty anticlimatic
 
Are the talent tree changes already implemented? I'll probably try to go back but my main character is like...stuck at 49 somehow and the quests just seem too hard.
All the changes went live two weeks ago. People leveling from 1-50 were having trouble with the enemies after the patch went live. Lots of complaints of it being too hard. I think they fixed most of the problems since then.
 

Lashley

Why does he wear the mask!?
I bought the collector's edition and played it the first month and haven't touched it since. I keep saying I wanna try it out again but eh, I dunno. I literally know no one that plays it.

This is why I no longer play this or Guild Wars 2
 
Haven't played since I leveled a Sith Warrior to 52 and finished the main story (did JK at release and took a break then). Never did get into a guild as a Sith though.

Considering picking this expansion and subbing for a while.
 

LtOrange

Member
I have not played since launch, but this thread has gotten me interested in it again. I can't seem to find my security key though.....
 

Enthus

Member
I'm so glad this stuff isn't canon anymore. The summary's I've read have made the story sound terrible. Revan should have remained an enigma after KOTOR.
 

StudioTan

Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
I have not played since launch, but this thread has gotten me interested in it again. I can't seem to find my security key though.....

You can remove it by logging in to the website.
 

Milly79

Member
Is agent healing still really really hard?

I've heard mixed reviews on them being nerfed and buffed. I pulled 3.8m and over 3k hps in a war zone yesterday, having no experience. They were the go-to healer in pre-3.0. Running out of energy is super hard and they're not all that amazing at bringing people up from near death. They're solid though. A lot of mobility and survivability.
 

Rymuth

Member
SPOILERS (Events from Shadow of Revan)

Revan is revealed to have survived the encounter in the Foundry and brings together followers called Revanites. Revan's goal is apparently to wipe out both the Republic and the Empire so the galaxy can be truly united ( or something like that i can't remember now).

To face the threat of the Revanites, both Republic and Empire joins forces to stop Revan and they track him to the planet Yavin IV. It is revealed that Revan's true goal is to ressurect the Sith Emperor (who died in the events of vanilla SWTOR) so that he can destroy him once and for all, but by doing so, the Emperor will actually have the means to destroy all life in the galaxy.

While on the planet Yavin, the player character encounters a Force Ghost of...Revan. What really happened is that Revan died during his battle in the Foundry but his hatred for the Emperor was so strong that his spirit was split in two, with the Dark Side spirit inhabbitating Revan's body while the Light Side spirit still is nearby.

In the end the player defeats Revan, his spirits merge together and Revan finally becomes one with the Force.

Sorry if this sounds confusing and poorly written, its nearly 2 am here.

Oh, COME THE FUCK ON...it's like the writers want to have their cake and eat it too!
 

Corgi

Banned
The best is how nonchalant they killed off the protagonist of kotor2. There really must be some beef between bioware and obsidian.

Did they ever implement the ability to switch between multiple builds in game? Feel like all games should have this as a standard feature.
 
The best is how nonchalant they killed off the protagonist of kotor2. There really must be some beef between bioware and obsidian.

Did they ever implement the ability to switch between multiple builds in game? Feel like all games should have this as a standard feature.

Well that wasn't an event in the game, that was Drew K who killed that character in a novel.

The secret behind Revan going evil is non-sense even for Star Wars EU

It's about on par with how silly Darth Nihilus was in KOTOR2, essentially a walking sith ghost in robes. Nihilus somehow would eat entire planet of force killing off a race almost and walked around without a body anymore. So powerful, of course he goes down like a bitch in KOTOR2
 

Moff

Member
The best is how nonchalant they killed off the protagonist of kotor2. There really must be some beef between bioware and obsidian.
I dont get the hate about revan in SWTOR at all, especially from people who only played KOTOR. KOTOR had next to nothing about revan as a character in it. he was the player character.
the novel however, written by the same guy who wrote KOTOR and SWTOR vanilla, added a lot to revan, and SWTOR as well as this new expac work completely fine with the novel. and with KOTOR, too. of course. I dont understand how revan was "retconned". he wasnt.

but you are right, the exile was. bioware completely destroyed the exile. this cant even be called a retcon anymore. and the exile was a much more interesting character, jus as KOTOR2 was the much more interesting game. if you want to shit on SWTOR, forget revan, that's nothing. remember the exile.

Did they ever implement the ability to switch between multiple builds in game? Feel like all games should have this as a standard feature.

no, pretty early you could buy the ability to respec anyhwere and anytime, though.
but a multiple-build feature, and more importantly, a multipe-gear feature never came.
 

Corgi

Banned
I dont get the hate about revan in SWTOR at all, especially from people who only played KOTOR. KOTOR had next to nothing about revan as a character in it. he was the player character.
the novel however, written by the same guy who wrote KOTOR and SWTOR vanilla, added a lot to revan, and SWTOR as well as this new expac work completely fine with the novel. and with KOTOR, too. of course. I dont understand how revan was "retconned". he wasnt.

but you are right, the exile was. bioware completely destroyed the exile. this cant even be called a retcon anymore. and the exile was a much more interesting character, jus as KOTOR2 was the much more interesting game. if you want to shit on SWTOR, forget revan, that's nothing. remember the exile.



no, pretty early you could buy the ability to respec anyhwere and anytime, though.
but a multiple-build feature, and more importantly, a multipe-gear feature never came.

hmmmm must be a new thing. Remember having to respec back at the station before.


Never really understood why respecing should cost any money.
 

Cystm

Member
I put together a list of some of the bigger updates to the game since the last expansion pack was released in February.


I have probably missed something important, I haven't played the game since February, but I think I got most of the bigger additions.
 

Shinjica

Member
Well, the story of Revan stop making sense to me when 4 random dude killed him. I mean, he was one of the strongest Jedi/sith who has control on both dark and light side of the force.
 
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