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[LordOfChaos]

http://techreport.com/news/27752/leak-pegs-desktop-broadwell-skylake-for-mid-year#880293

VR-Zone's Chinese alter-ego published the graphic, which schedules unlocked Broadwell chips for mid-Q2. The roadmap doesn't mention Broadwell-K specifically, but it does refer to unlocked chips with an LGA package and 65W thermal envelope.

If the leak is accurate, the next K-series parts will be based on Skylake-S silicon. They're slated for the end of Q2, shortly after Broadwell hits the desktop. These unlocked chips will have 95W thermal envelopes, according to the roadmap, and they'll be joined by non-K variants with 65W and 35W TDPs. Broadwell and Skylake should be able to coexist on the desktop, since the former will work in existing 9-series motherboards, while the latter will presumably require a new chipset.

Yep, Intel isn't fooling around with Skylake delays, even if it means casting a shadow over Broadwell. But the two can still coexist, if Skylake needs a new socket while Broadwell serves those on the current socket.

So is skylake worth the hype? According to this, I'd say yeah, if this is right it looks like the biggest IPC gain in a long, long time. Even more exciting for integrated graphics, if Broadwell is 20% over Haswell, and Skylake is 50% over Broadwell.

http://wccftech.com/intel-skylake-benchmarks-leaked-sisoftware-sandra/

The CPU arithmetic score is actually quite good, nearly matching the i7 4810MQ which has a base clock of 2.8Ghz. Suggesting that intel will likely introduce worthwhile IPC improvements of roughly 20% with Skylake over Haswell.

As reported previously, the Broadwell breed of central processing units (CPUs) will boost the maximum amount of execution units (EUs) within the most powerful version of their integrated graphics processors (IGPs) to 48 units, a 20 per cent increase compared to the best IGP inside the Haswell CPUs. Apparently, the Skylake processors will improve performance of the integrated GPUs even more significantly. According to a report from CPU World, the best IGP inside the Skylake (the GPU is currently known under the GT4 moniker, but its commercial name will likely be the Iris Pro) will feature 72 execution units, 50 per cent more than the amount of graphics processing EUs inside the predecessor.

http://www.kitguru.net/components/g...s-performance-of-skylake-gpus-by-50-per-cent/

 

[maneil99]

Hopefully skylake is a worthy upgrade from ivy

 

[JaseC]

Roll on Broadwell-E.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Hopefully skylake is a worthy upgrade from ivy

For real... it feels like it's been so long since I built my last PC. Kind of a dumb complaint to have, I know, but I'd love a huge CPU power bump.

 

[wwm0nkey]

My 2500k needs to be replaced so but I'm debating if I want to go with a new MB/DDR4 route right now.

 

[1st Course]

The chart in question

 

[CrackaF3tt]

My i7 920 needs to finally be put to rest.

 

[michaelius]

Yep, Intel isn't fooling around with Skylake delays, even if it means casting a shadow over Broadwell. But the two can still coexist, if Skylake needs a new socket while Broadwell serves those on the current socket.

Broadwell for people with 1150 mobos and people who want to keep their DDR3 memory
Skylake for people building new pcs

Seems pretty ok

 

[JaseC]

The chart in question

Bleh. Here's hoping the Q3 2015 rumours for Broadwell-E are on point.

 

[Guri]

Interesting. I've been planning to upgrade my CPU, GPU, motherboard and power supply in October/November. Hopefully we will see interesting high-end products from vendors released until then. Otherwise, I may wait until 2016.

 

[Human_me]

My i7 920 needs to finally be put to rest.

Same with my i7 930.

 

[Saucycarpdog]

What is baytrail D? I thought baytrail was only for tablets.

 

[roytheone]

My i7 920 needs to finally be put to rest.

My i7 870 is on his last legs, so it is the same for me.

 

[Firebrand]

Looks like Skylake won't be launching with 6 cores though?

 

[PFD]

I'm more interested in AMD's next processor. The market is in dire need of competition

 

[Dawnbuster]

My i7 920 needs to finally be put to rest.

Same for me. Considered throwing in a cheap Xeon X5670 or something as a stopgap but decided to ride the old 920 into the skylake sunset.

 

[LeleSocho]

AWWWWWW YIIIISSSSSSSSS
Give me that Skylake baby i need it badly.

 

[Mifec]

Getting the top tier skylake and hoping a 980ti or better is out by then too. Nice time to upgrade

 

[Timu]

I'll probably wait for Skylake if the price and performance is right!!!

 

[Damaniel]

My 2500k needs to be replaced so but I'm debating if I want to go with a new MB/DDR4 route right now.

My OC 2600K could use a refresh too, but gen after gen I see improvements that are so small versus the base clocked SB parts, which go away entirely after considering the overclock (and considering how poor some of the newer processors seem to overclock at all), and the idea of spending $300+ on *maybe* single digit percentage improvements just seems kind of dumb. Hopefully the unlocked Skylake parts will finally be good enough to upgrade.

 

[Mr Swine]

Mmmm feeling the itch to upgrade my mobo and CPU, good thing I can save money and do it!

 

[Shining Sunshine]

Skylake hype!

 

[josecitoxnyo]

Skylake is DDR4 right?

 

[BPoole]

I'm looking to replace my 2500k, so here's to hoping this is true

 

[Momentary]

Skylake is DDR4 right?

I think there with be boards that support either DDR3 or DDR4.

Man. Can't wait for my next build. Everything is going according to keikaku. Only thing that could make this better is if NVIDIA's 16nm FF Maxwell cards will hit this summer as well.

 

[Shining Sunshine]

I think there with be boards that support either DDR3 or DDR4.

Boards like that are shitty. Tech sites tell you to avoid them like a plague.

 

[elyetis]

I definitly hope that 2015 will be the year of intel Skylake, nvidia Pascal and the first consumer version of the Oculus Rift.
Even if my bank account wont be that happy about it.

 

[Momentary]

Boards like that are shitty. Tech sites tell you to avoid them like a plague.

I'm not saying there are boards that will support both at the same time. It's going to be one or the other.

 

[No Love]

My OC 2600K could use a refresh too, but gen after gen I see improvements that are so small versus the base clocked SB parts, which go away entirely after considering the overclock (and considering how poor some of the newer processors seem to overclock at all), and the idea of spending $300+ on *maybe* single digit percentage improvements just seems kind of dumb. Hopefully the unlocked Skylake parts will finally be good enough to upgrade.

Agreed. 2500K and 2600K are legendary, truly. I miss my 2500K, what a great processor. OC monster too.

 

[LordOfChaos]

I'm more interested in AMD's next processor. The market is in dire need of competition

I gochya covered
http://67.227.255.239/forum/showthread.php?t=980015

 

[TronLight]

Is Skylake going to be six core?

 

[Sectorseven]

Looks like Skylake won't be launching with 6 cores though?

I think the defect rate goes up significantly with more cores and they're too cheap to risk it.

 

[Lactose_Intolerant]

New amd gpu + new intel cpu seem to be coming out around the same time. I might finally do a big upgrade.

 

[Dolor]

My new PC is ready

 

[LeleSocho]

I definitly hope that 2015 will be the year of intel Skylake, nvidia Pascal and the first consumer version of the Oculus Rift.
Even if my bank account wont be that happy about it.

Pascal is 2016 IIRC... maybe if AMD's HBM is such a terrific tech then maybe they'll try to push it to the end but i doubt it.

 

[Nekofrog]

i can't have 2 full screened source level twitch streams open as well as a full 1080p game on my third monitor all up at the same time without losing framerate in the game. i need an upgraaaaaaaaaaaade.

 

[Sir_Crocodile]

Broadwell has been a bit of a mess. I was originally planning on my next lappie being a broadwell jobbie, but I think I'll wait for skylake now.

Hopefully the Surface Pro 4 will use a skylake chip

 

[Bl@de]

well with 20% more over haswell I can keep my Xeon E3-1230v3 for 2-3 more years. But I understand Intel. Why huge performance bumps if you can charge the same for less. It's not like there is a lot of competition going. Sadly...

And I doubt AMDs Zen will change that. And that's coming 2016 earliest. Until then they are still rocking Bulldozer architecture

 

[Guy.brush]

Cannonlake or bust.

 

[BlazinAm]

i can't have 2 full screened source level twitch streams open as well as a full 1080p game on my third monitor all up at the same time without losing framerate in the game. i need an upgraaaaaaaaaaaade.

I can....

Depends on the game though.

 

[Cidd]

My 2500k needs to be replaced so but I'm debating if I want to go with a new MB/DDR4 route right now.

Same here, I was planning on getting a 4790K with a new MB this month but at the moment
my 2500K seem to be good enough at 4.5GHz. And with DDR4 now available I think I'll just grab a SSD and wait.

 

[Reg]

You'll have to pry my 5ghz 2500k from my cold, dead hands.

 

[elyetis]

Pascal is 2016 IIRC... maybe if AMD's HBM is such a terrific tech then maybe they'll try to push it to the end but i doubt it.

Oh I missed yet another Pascal delay ?

 

[Ingueferroque]

I'm in the market for a new Mac Pro.. I hope it delivers.

 

[Arttemis]

I hope this means the Surface Pro 4 will launch with Skylake, then!

 

[ashecitism]

Oh I missed yet another Pascal delay ?

No, it was always planned for around '16. Big Maxwell is coming first this year.

 

[Servbot24]

I hope Apple skips Broadwell and goes to Skylake for the next iMac

Not gon happen tho

 

[CreepingFear]

I have a 2600k oced to 4.4ghz. I have that upgrade itch, but I want to go from 4 cores to 8 cores and ddr 4 ram as well. I hope Skylake is the upgrade that Sandy Bridge was.

 

[LordOfChaos]

well with 20% more over haswell I can keep my Xeon E3-1230v3 for 2-3 more years. But I understand Intel. Why huge performance bumps if you can charge the same for less. It's not like there is a lot of competition going. Sadly...

20% more per core per clock is pretty big, this is without further turbo boost schemes and clock speed bumps, which they'll definitely have. I think it's unrealistic to expect much more in one generation, with ARM you could double performance every year for a while just because the architectures had a long way to go, but there's less of the easy stuff left for big desktop/laptop cores.

If that plays out in real world, I won't be disappointed. Compared to the last three generations gains, a 20% jump in one generation is very good.

Could we have expected more if AMD were kicking butt? Probably. But Intel would still be focused on mobile in that case too, laptops far overshadow desktop sales, so they set a mandate that anything that increased power draw by 1 had to increase performance by 2. I still think that would be the case with a strong AMD.

I hope Apple skips Broadwell and goes to Skylake for the next iMac

Not gon happen tho

It might. Why put the cost of a new iteration towards a processor that has a new lifespan of weeks? In fact I find it likely they'll skip Broadwell, Broadwell really only makes sense for drop in upgrades to the last socket, if Apple is going to release a new product at that time it may as well be Skylake.

 

[bomblord1]

The chart in question

Braswell? What happened to "cherry trail"?