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The Last of Us: do you consider 'The Infected' to be 'zombies' ?
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Werewolf Jones
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No, they're people trapped inside who can't break out or do anything about it.
When Sam makes that suggestion it's just so good. A childish understanding of something like it is so elevating.
But no, they're not zombies.
Yes, these are zombies, they're slow but powerful in a group and fit with the traditional ways of what zombies are.
Triggerhappytel
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I really appreciate the effort ND went to in regards to making the infected have a plausible scientific/biological reason for existing, but in gameplay terms they are, for all intents and purposes, just regular zombies.
CaptainGyro
Banned
yes
Noisepurge
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so yes, Last of Us infecteds are zombies!
they are unintelligent shambling enemies that were once normal humans = zombies.
TheVampire
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Do they starve?
Always-honest
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No. Zombies are stupid.
Portugeezer
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Plays like Zombies.
Shuggananas
Banned
There's no standard for zombies anyway, they're fucking fiction
So yes they're zombies
So yes they're zombies
DistortionOfReality
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I think I actually refer to them all as 'clickers' even though that is just one type of them.
But no, not zombies in the traditional sense. Closer to the rage infected from 28 days later, but with funkier headgear.
EDIT: well behind the curve on the 28 days later comparison
But no, not zombies in the traditional sense. Closer to the rage infected from 28 days later, but with funkier headgear.
EDIT: well behind the curve on the 28 days later comparison
Nope. Infected.
The "George A. Romero" zombie is actually someone who dies and comes back as a rotting corpse. The infected in TLoU are more akin to wild animals; they trust on instinct. The Resident Evil enemies... mostly yes. The original games up to four and the zombies from Leon's story in 6 are more traditional I guess.
The "George A. Romero" zombie is actually someone who dies and comes back as a rotting corpse. The infected in TLoU are more akin to wild animals; they trust on instinct. The Resident Evil enemies... mostly yes. The original games up to four and the zombies from Leon's story in 6 are more traditional I guess.
Summer Haze
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I wouldn't class them as zombies, no. Not in the "traditional" sense anyway.
mumbles365
Banned
The Cordyceps explaination was both scary and fascinating
Marvel
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Too fast to be zombies, I see them as infected akin to 28 Days Later enemies.
Ah beaten.
Ah beaten.
plasmawave
Banned
It doesn't really matter what you call them.
The role they play in the game is pretty much zombies.
The role they play in the game is pretty much zombies.
RichardKSJ
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In all but name. More akin to super zombies though I guess.
CouchMaster
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Well they're not undead so technically they're not zombies. But for all intents and purposes, they are.
LonelyGreyWolf
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No. And as for Resident Evil, I haven't played those games too much, but the enemies in Resident Evil 4 are definitely not, at least.
Werewolf Jones
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The RE4 and TLOU enemies are pretty similar but RE4 enemies have human intelligence. TLOU infected are just instinct it seems.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
I feel zombie describes them. Last of Us' explanation for the zombies is by fungi, but people being infected in horror movies and still being zombies while alive is also nothing new to the horror genre, and how the infected act in Last of Us was definitely inspired by a few zombie movies.
They seem a lot like the infected in 28 Days Later, who have rabies that make them angry and violent and just kill things, that spread from a monkey to humans. Those I define as zombies, they're not dead and just have a disease making them mad, but they're still zombies. Zombies have had hundreds of explanations for how, why, and the specifics of them, Last of Us' infected fall very in-line with what's already out there in zombie media.
They seem a lot like the infected in 28 Days Later, who have rabies that make them angry and violent and just kill things, that spread from a monkey to humans. Those I define as zombies, they're not dead and just have a disease making them mad, but they're still zombies. Zombies have had hundreds of explanations for how, why, and the specifics of them, Last of Us' infected fall very in-line with what's already out there in zombie media.
For all intents and purposes they are the same thing. They're mindless drones who walk around aimlessly, with their only intention being to eat you.
I guess you can them 'infected' if you want to be specific about it, but by that definition the zombie genre is, if I'm not incorrecty, completely dead, seeing as there haven't been any high profile zombie movies or games in as long as I can remember.
I guess you can them 'infected' if you want to be specific about it, but by that definition the zombie genre is, if I'm not incorrecty, completely dead, seeing as there haven't been any high profile zombie movies or games in as long as I can remember.
bananafactory
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No, to me zombies are still the Romero kind. Undead. As in the body and person were deceased before coming back to life.
Infected like TLOU and 28 Days Later are in fact still technically alive so while they may behave similar to zombies, physiologically they are not.
Infected like TLOU and 28 Days Later are in fact still technically alive so while they may behave similar to zombies, physiologically they are not.
Zeyphersan
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They're not zombies, but c'mon, they're zombies
Stillmatic
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They behave similarly, but the infected don't die to become that way, they transition gradually into clickers/bloaters. So I'd say no.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
I'll also say there's a lot of zombie movies and media where you don't have to die to become a zombie, and that's already been in games too. Zombie mutations are also in many zombie examples. There's also 'scientific explanation reasons', for zombies in various zombie media. I'm just saying Last of Us' interpretation seems very in-line with several interpretations of zombies and infected that already exist and are classified as zombies, and they certainly were inspired by zombies without a doubt, with direct references and nods to zombie movies in the game.
The 're-animated corpse' thing hasn't been the sole definition of zombies for almost 40 years in film, there's been all sorts of backstories for zombies and their specifics since they started gaining popularity and rise in films in the 60s.
The 're-animated corpse' thing hasn't been the sole definition of zombies for almost 40 years in film, there's been all sorts of backstories for zombies and their specifics since they started gaining popularity and rise in films in the 60s.
John Bender
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Ellie thinks so. She says that in the game.
The Runners are alive and are heavily infected/mutated.
A Clicker imo is dead / brain-dead. The fungus completely destroyed the brain and "replaces" the brain (is my guess).
So "Zombie"? No, imo.
Oh, here is the "Infected/Clicker" TLOU Wiki.
abstract alien
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The game specifically called them Infected right? If so, that's what they are, even if they were exactly like a "classic" resident evil zombie(they aren't). What you feel like calling them is irrelevant.
Shuggananas
Banned
It's a common trope to not call zombies zombies...
They even joke about that trope in shaun of the dead.
"we don't call em that !"
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NotUsingTheZWord
They never died, they just got infected and mutated / grew fungal bits. Zombies are one of the many types of undead, ie dead that, for some unnatural and often sinister cause, have risen up again. In that sense, the enemies in the classic REs could be labelled zombies. Sure, it's an infection that causes it, but they still die and then somehow get reanimated.
Edit: Alternatively, you could just refer to zombies as formerly independent beings that now have no higher neurological functions anymore, in that their actions are effectively out of their control. That, however, is very hard to verify.
Edit: Alternatively, you could just refer to zombies as formerly independent beings that now have no higher neurological functions anymore, in that their actions are effectively out of their control. That, however, is very hard to verify.
N30RYU
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Unless they aren't summon from the grave almost everything we call nowadays zombies are just infected by something... fungus, T-Virus...
To be true I don't think that a "traditional" zombie can turn anyone into one just bitting, 'cause there's no infection to spread to begin with... because they are summoned from the dead..
To be true I don't think that a "traditional" zombie can turn anyone into one just bitting, 'cause there's no infection to spread to begin with... because they are summoned from the dead..
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