It seems to me at least digital only would make running things between platforms a hell of a lot easier than supporting physical media.
The issue with that is people obviously not wanting a digital only platform though.
It seems to me at least digital only would make running things between platforms a hell of a lot easier than supporting physical media.
Why does everyone just assume there won't be two screens on the handheld? Nintendo isn't going to cut something as big as that. Quote me on it, there will be two screens and the screen in this home console will likely be so that games that require two screens will be compatible.Only one screen for the handheld. And with constantly forcing different console concepts, there's only so long you can carry BC. At some point a clear cut is inevitable.
Why does everyone just assume there won't be two screens on the handheld? Nintendo isn't going to cut something as big as that. Quote me on it, there will be two screens and the screen in this home console will likely be so that games that require two screens will be compatible.
.You guys keep thinking downloadable, but they're going back to carts.
Unless they ditch backwards compatibility for the NX Platform as a whole to demonstrate a clean break from what came before.Why does everyone just assume there won't be two screens on the handheld? Nintendo isn't going to cut something as big as that. Quote me on it, there will be two screens and the screen in this home console will likely be so that games that require two screens will be compatible.
Square-Enix will be there, as will Nintendo's other remaining buddies (Sega, Capcom, Bandai Namco, Atlus). But Nintendo has a lot of work to do to win everyone else back.Whatever it is , I hope they have tons of first party games ready, third parties are not going to fill those gaps.
The issue with that is people obviously not wanting a digital only platform though.
Which would be fine considering ps4 and xbox one pretty much got the same games and same graphics other than some resolution differences.
But that's an optimized version of UE4 for mobile. While that would cover the NX Handheld, it wouldn't work as well for the console. Correct me if I'm wrong, of course.
It'd be fine if there was a truce for the next gen not to advance beyond the PS4, or for this gen to last 8 years...
Just for good measure:
True but its growing more and more. At some point we are going all digital as an industry I'd bet a lot on it. The question is just a matter of when.
Look how big mobile is in Japan. That's a digital only marketplace
Or if Nintendo truly plans on adapting the Apple model where they don't have traditional console generations but release new hardware every 2 years or so. Not saying it will happen but with them going for a single architecture it's possible.
When can we realistically expect for this system to be officially revealed?
People in this thread really think high density memory cards are a financially viable distribution method for a home console...? Come on guys. I can go on Amazon right now and buy 50GB BD-Rs for $2 a disc (Wii U is using single-layer BD-derived 25GB discs). Even a shitty 32GB SD card is going to run you $9. To actually beat a dual layer in storage you're going to need $20 a pop for a barely decent card. In what world is a company going to jump on a storage medium that's 10 times more expensive for similar storage? That's a massive cut.
if nintendo's aim was to make something where the gimmick was multiple form factors for a single 'platform', there were very few choices since dvd/cd/blu-ray disc sizes would be too difficult for handhelds.
so it really just makes the most sense. not running dvd/blu-ray probably won't be a knock against it as long as streaming services are up and running on the machine(s).
Or if Nintendo truly plans on adapting the Apple model where they don't have traditional console generations but release new hardware every 2 years or so. Not saying it will happen but with them going for a single architecture it's possible.
When can we realistically expect for this system to be officially revealed?
Well, aren't the 3DS/DS cartridges glorified SD cards?But, for now, that's still an assumption, because i think that the patent says nothing about:
a. instaling the "game program" into a hdd from a sd card
or
b. reading the "game program" from a cartridge (like with a handheld)
I think its entirely possible we see it unveiled either before the year is over or January - March. Has to be soon one would think if they are looking at launching in 2016.
You'd be surprised, I was railed against pretty hard in other threads for the mere suggestion of moving away from discs.
Microsoft got scared but Nintendo will pull through, as they always do.The all digital age is coming and that's fine with me.
This fiscal year for sure (ending March 31st)When can we realistically expect for this system to be officially revealed?
I think its entirely possible we see it unveiled either before the year is over or January - March. Has to be soon one would think if they are looking at launching in 2016.
It'll probably be revealed early next year if they're shooting for a holiday 2016 release.
That's another issue right there. If Nintendo's servers got hammered because of Smash 4 DLC, I doubt they'll be ready for a digital-only platform.Microsoft got scared but Nintendo will pull through, as they always do.
I doubt they are going full digital, they don't have the servers to do it. As others have mentioned, they are probably using cards.
You're assuming that the model is 1 SD card for every game box, which isn't what should happen.
You should just buy a Nintendo SD card and you can put as many games on it at the store (or on your NX at home) as you have space on the card. The stuff you buy at retail should just be a code for the game.
Yeah, the more I think about it the more I like the concept. You've got a captive audience while the game downloads that can be shown trailers, can play demos of upcoming games. It's perfect for the loyalty programs that Iwata hinted at last year.
Third parties would definitely be more likely to support the console when they don't have to worry about losing money on inventory. People could buy eShop games from Gamestop, download them right to their Nintendo Card, load it up with a few games and take them to a friend's house to play.
The actual kiosk could just be a custom NX with a multi-TB HD with all the game data, plus a TV/audio. That week's new games & updates could be either downloaded over the net to the kiosk or some sort of physical device could be shipped weekly with the new data for the week.
Game codes could be activated by cellular in areas where Internet access is crappy.
Question, I've noticed there are MicroSD cards that hold like a whooping 200GB, why would that not be a suitable media format for a console? Wouldn't that be a huge amount of space, and severely shorten load times?
They aren't that bad online, but it's at retail where the SD cards can get expensive.Probably because they are expensive.
Question, I've noticed there are MicroSD cards that hold like a whooping 200GB, why would that not be a suitable media format for a console? Wouldn't that be a huge amount of space, and severely shorten load times?
Probably because they are expensive.
Well it only matters for Nintendo and whoever is manufacturing them, but you'd think a MicroSD chip would be much cheaper than a disc of the same capacity, FAR less plastic and whatnot to make and produce.
Not to mention the costs of manufacturing boxes, like Vita cases are ridiculously small, we can go deeper!
AND, the disc drive is a major factor in console size, wouldn't such a tiny media reader allow the console to literally be like a Vita TV but with more ports and such for what's necessary? Hell, maybe you only need HDMI and such like the Vita TV. Edit: And USB ports, 4 should work again.
That's what I was thinking. If that memory card is their new physical format, then it needs to be 32-64GB in able to keep up with the space needed for current-gen games.
Look closely, there's a memory card that looks to be taking the place of the usual disc.
True but its growing more and more. At some point we are going all digital as an industry I'd bet a lot on it. The question is just a matter of when.
Look how big mobile is in Japan. That's a digital only marketplace
game boxes with pictures and kids begging their parents for said boxes is what is going to keep retail around for a long while yet; or at least until f2p totally kills consoles for people who need their parents to buy their games for them. People ignore download cards unless they are specifically looking for them.
Load times aren't necessarily going to be better. Everything on disc on PS4 and XBox One now installs entirely to the harddrive. They're basically just data delivery mechanisms.
Like all things, it depends entirely on harddrive/card read speed, which can vary.
They could always put the cards/codes in boxes.
Wouldn't announcing before Xmas hurt sales this year? I'd say Feb-April????
Why January-March?
Reveal at E3 and holiday 2016 release sounds more realistic to me.