ninjablade
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Can you name these 10/10 games on wiiu,
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The Wii was such a good console.
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Can you name these 10/10 games on wiiu,
This is why I don't understand why people said it had shit third party support. It didn't have mainstream titles sure but I would've killed to have games like that & Monster Hunter, Phantom Brave, Dragon Quest, Guilty Gear etc on Gamecube.
TheDinoman
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But yeah, looking back, the Wii's library wasn't too shabby. Sure, Other M was a dud and Skyward Sword wasn't a whole lot better, but the console had some gems such as Kirby's Return to Dreamland, DKC Returns (those waggle controls tho), Metroid Prime 3 (or Trilogy), Punch-Out!!, Sin & Punishment, Excitetruck/bots, Warioware, NSMB Wii, and of course, Super Mario Galaxy 1 & 2, both of which I consider the best games of the seventh generation. There were even some interesting third party titles such as Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom, House of the Dead, and such.
Like I said earlier, even though I feel Brawl could of been better, we did end up getting Project M, which redeemed Smash Bros. on the Wii for me and many others.
Honestly, even though I love the N64, I can't help but feel that's when the "hardcore gamers" began to drift away from Nintendo. Compare the sales of that system and the Gamecube to Sony's consoles and you'll see what I mean.
Like I said earlier, even though I feel Brawl could of been better, we did end up getting Project M, which redeemed Smash Bros. on the Wii for me and many others.
Honestly, even though I love the N64, I can't help but feel that's when the "hardcore gamers" began to drift away from Nintendo. Compare the sales of that system and the Gamecube to Sony's consoles and you'll see what I mean.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
Jeez you just keep digging a hole with that persecution complex. What can't you understand about the fact that me thinking the Wii had terrible 3rd party support is an opinion? It's like you're incapable of accepting the fact that there are people out there who don't unconditionally love the Wii's offering of games outside of Nintendo's stuff which is really weird. And as far as I know, Xenoblade wasn't a first party game when it came out, I think Nintendo just helped them publish it. Even if I'm wrong, it just strengthens my argument that the Wii had awful 3rd party support considering that's one of the top games on the console.
And your links don't mean crap, I already told you this comes down to opinions. Most of those 3rd party games don't appeal to me. I want you to stop because you're embarrassing yourself by refusing to let me have a different point of view over video games.
GametimeUK
Member
I went from being a huge Nintendo fan with my Gamecube to feeling totally alienated and disappointed in the Wii as a gamer. It really disappointed me. The WiiU and 3DS haven't changed my mindset yet either.
Lord British
Member
Love my Wii. Huge number of lovely games.
But my favourite thing about it? Homebrew.
But my favourite thing about it? Homebrew.
At least the Wii got a Zelda and Metroid.
Spinosaurus
Member
A lot of the Wii's best games tend to be the hidden gems. Stuff like Trauma Team, Little King's Story, Another Code R, Sin & Punishment, Rhythm Heaven Fever, Excitebots, etc. There's a bunch.
I really love this console.
I really love this console.
What are you talking about?
Xenoblade is as much a Nintendo game as Super Mario Galaxy.
Sorry, but you can not be interested in a game and still acknowledge that it's good. I'm not interested in the Uncharted series, but can I acknowledge that it's a widely respected series held in high regard? Absolutely. Clearly that's not possible for you so I don't know why I'm wasting my time responding.
Yeah, but you're better off playing Phantom Brave on PS2. They fucked up a few things in the Wii version. Also the PS2 version came with a soundtrack on first print in the case.
Also, why the hell would you play GG on Wii when the PS2 version exists and AC+R edition exists on PC.
TheAdmiester
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MR ARCADE FOREVER
Member
I don't get the hate for the Wii mote. The Wii graphics sucked but it really enjoy playing with the wiimote
That would be a good retort if you didn't frame your post like your anecdotal evidence was anything more than anecdotal.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
So basically your argument boils down to "like what I like otherwise your opinion is invalid"
That's not how this works. Just because millions enjoy Assassins Creed and Farmville doesn't mean that I'm going to mindlessly claim that they're great games. It's like you take it personally that I don't enjoy most of the Wii's 3rd party games which is something you shouldn't be doing.
I apologize for not knowing the details of every single Wii game published, please forgive me. Like I said in the sentence after, even if Xenoblade is 1st party that just strengthens my position considering it is one of the best games on the console.
KANYE WEST
Banned
The Wii was the only system I ever regretted buying.
Perfect for children and people who frequently read Star Fox fan fiction, but not for me.
Perfect for children and people who frequently read Star Fox fan fiction, but not for me.
They seemed worse than the DS games to me, but I only played an hour or two of Trauma Team.
Omega Kirby
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Most underrated for sure. Had just as many gems as PS3. It had a rough moment and I admit I did sell it back then. But looking back now, it really had a fantastic library
EmCeeGramr
Member
Like, I had some complaints about Metroid Prime 3... just like I had some complaints about Prime 1, and quite a few more about 2. But I really don't know when it suddenly became "the worst Metroid Prime game." People loved it back when it came out. It was a gorgeous game with great music, great controls, great level and puzzle design, and the only real knocks I have against it are that the story is kinda whatever and... uh. That one escort part, I guess.
I mean, the rest of the "oh it's so much worse" arguments I can understand (even though I think the weird retrospective hate for Brawl and Skyward Sword has been hilariously amplified by the internet since they came out), but Metroid Prime 3? I just don't get it.
I mean, the rest of the "oh it's so much worse" arguments I can understand (even though I think the weird retrospective hate for Brawl and Skyward Sword has been hilariously amplified by the internet since they came out), but Metroid Prime 3? I just don't get it.
I fucking loved the Wii. It had some amazing games, as well as a ton of flawed but really memorable titles, both from Nintendo and third parties - No More Heroes, Fragile, Little King's Story, House of the Dead Overkill, Sonic Colours, Megaman 9, the Bit.Trip series, Boom Blox, Muramasa, Last Story, Zack and Wiki, Silent Hill: Shattered Memories, Deadly Creatures. And that's not even touching Nintendo's games.
Of course it was far from perfect. Motion controls were hit and miss, making some games amazing while ruining others. I also hated Mario Kart Wii and DESPISED Metroid: Other M. And, yes, it was tragically inundated with a complete tsunami of some of the worst shovelware, the likes of which we haven't seen since Phoenix Games' heady days. But you know what? Fuck 'em. I didn't buy them and I'm not going to let them cloud my memory of a console which, on the whole, I thought was fantastic... And undeservedly shat upon even to this day.
Now I'm having fond memories of all of the first party titles. Hold on while I gush some more about them.
Of course it was far from perfect. Motion controls were hit and miss, making some games amazing while ruining others. I also hated Mario Kart Wii and DESPISED Metroid: Other M. And, yes, it was tragically inundated with a complete tsunami of some of the worst shovelware, the likes of which we haven't seen since Phoenix Games' heady days. But you know what? Fuck 'em. I didn't buy them and I'm not going to let them cloud my memory of a console which, on the whole, I thought was fantastic... And undeservedly shat upon even to this day.
Now I'm having fond memories of all of the first party titles. Hold on while I gush some more about them.
3D World
Tropical Freeze
Bayo 2
Wonderful 101
Splatoon
Then you have a bunch of games that I don't quite consider 10/10 but are still pretty fucking good (Pikmin 3, MK8, Smash, Capitan Todd, Mario Maker) that I would also much rather play than most Wii titles.
The Wii just didn't have many games that were for me.
Did you even read what I wrote? I said I don't like Uncharted but I can still respect it and acknowledge that it's a good series. You can't do that, so arguing with someone like you is a complete waste of time.
Voysa Reezun
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I think the Wii has a better first-party output than any Nintendo console since the N64 personally (which is a huge compliment as I think Nintendo's output on the N64 is artistically and technically staggering, a true master class in game development). I actively dislike most of the Gamecube's first-party output to the point that Melee and Jungle Beat are the only two Nintendo Gamecube games that I still own (though I do want F-Zero).
I actually think that overall, the Wii has a weak first-party lineup, but it is the first Nintendo console since the N64 that I think has truly revolutionary games (Wii Sports, Wii Play, and to a degree Galaxy as well). I actually find most of the WiiU first-party lineup to be far less impressive than most do, and I would argue that Treasure Tracker is the best, most creative, and most fun of those games by a fairly significant amount.
I actually think that overall, the Wii has a weak first-party lineup, but it is the first Nintendo console since the N64 that I think has truly revolutionary games (Wii Sports, Wii Play, and to a degree Galaxy as well). I actually find most of the WiiU first-party lineup to be far less impressive than most do, and I would argue that Treasure Tracker is the best, most creative, and most fun of those games by a fairly significant amount.
ThatStupidLion
Member
i certainly didnt buy it as a media center
As long as you do go on claiming that they're shitty worthless piece of crap that anyone with a brain should avoid, I don't think anyone have a problem with your opinion.
Don't try to claim that it's anything but you're opinion and that it has any bearing in a discussion where people express that they found something worthwhile though.
Good games =/= Good console.
For instance it was a considerably underpowered console, that should take it down quite a bit. Another example is the PS3, had tons of good games but it was not a good console due to it being tough to develop for and also because it had a bad ecosystem such as a slow store that only got worse with time, no party chat, updates were too big compared to 360's smaller updates etc.
For instance it was a considerably underpowered console, that should take it down quite a bit. Another example is the PS3, had tons of good games but it was not a good console due to it being tough to develop for and also because it had a bad ecosystem such as a slow store that only got worse with time, no party chat, updates were too big compared to 360's smaller updates etc.
MetroidPrimeRib
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Prime 3 is still a really great game. You can make the argument for all 3 of them to be the best, worst and middle in my mind.
I like Smash but I don't like Smash to the degree where I see Brawl as some disfigured bastard child. I still like Brawl a lot, I recognize it has some baffling flaws but I still had a ton of fun playing it. Melee or 4 it is not but it was highly enjoyable.
Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword...waiting for an excuse to go back to them. I wasn't the biggest fan because they start sooooooooooooooooooooooo slow (didn't even beat the starting of SS because it was like 4 hours) but I figure they will get some kind of HD treatment someday, that's when I will go back.
gunstarhero
Member
I rank it as the worst I've ever owned.
Except maybe the Jaguar.
Except maybe the Jaguar.
TheAdmiester
Member
I didn't.
The title is anecdotal, I responded with an anecdote of my own. I literally started it with "I really disagree". It wasn't framed as anything more than that, it was directly saying "me and everyone I know didn't keep them or play them for long".
it had a really different lineup of games, that's for sure. the wii, psp, and ds were three platforms that all felt distinct from each other and what was popular on ps3/360 last gen, although the ps3 wound up having a more japanese lean in its later years.
i loved the platformer resurgence that seemed to come with it too. klonoa and a boy and his blob were small treats, and wario land was a fun surprise. sonic colors is my favorite 3d entry too - just a lovingly and smartly created platformer that feels great to play with nice presentation and execution. even wiiware had some good stuff for a short while. nyxquest remains a favorite, especially with its soundtrack and way of multitasking with platforming and manipulating the environment.
i'm not even through my library. i have sakura wars, pandora's tower, the last story, and lost in shadow to complete. and there's still more i feel encouraged to play, like kororinpa and house of the dead overkill. maybe i'll even give red steel 2 another chance even though i didn't particularly care for it ten years ago. damn it feels weird to be nostalgic over the machine.
i loved the platformer resurgence that seemed to come with it too. klonoa and a boy and his blob were small treats, and wario land was a fun surprise. sonic colors is my favorite 3d entry too - just a lovingly and smartly created platformer that feels great to play with nice presentation and execution. even wiiware had some good stuff for a short while. nyxquest remains a favorite, especially with its soundtrack and way of multitasking with platforming and manipulating the environment.
i'm not even through my library. i have sakura wars, pandora's tower, the last story, and lost in shadow to complete. and there's still more i feel encouraged to play, like kororinpa and house of the dead overkill. maybe i'll even give red steel 2 another chance even though i didn't particularly care for it ten years ago. damn it feels weird to be nostalgic over the machine.
Spieler Eins
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When I now look back on my last gen consoles and my library, I really don't give a shit about any of this. It's all about the games in the long run. I replay Wii games and catch up the ones I missed out on through Wii U BC nowadays, but I still count that for the Wii, obviously not for the WiiU...
MrCunningham
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Well technically the Wii is just an overclocked GameCube with more RAM, and it is backwards compatible. So it is better in that respect. But yeah, if you look at the two libraries individually, I also prefer the GameCube more.
WTF do you do with a console but play games?
if a console is not the measure of its software wtf do you do with it?
Should we consider the gc a worse console because it looked like a fisherprice toys?
Every single console is underpowered compared to its successors, unless that severely limit the games with technical problem (like flickering on NES) why the fuck should you give a shit that an old console is not as powerful as another console that look similarly dated now?
Your issues on the ps3 are actually legit and more usability issues with the console itself...that the Wii mostly doesn't share.
fuzzyreactor
Banned
Terrible console IMO. Some good games hindered by forced motion controls. Smash and Zelda were disappointing
Gucci Messiah
Banned
Of course I read what you wrote, didn't you say you were going to stop responding? You are now moving goalposts; this went from you complaining that people in this thread who claim the Wii had bad 3rd party support have an agenda to making the accusation that if anyone disagrees with you they don't "respect" an entire series? At the end of the day you are getting worked up over opinions of software for an entertainment device. There are plenty of people in this thread saying they didn't enjoy the Wii's library or that 3rd party support was weak like it's been since the N64 and others talking about how much they enjoyed the console and that it's got the best selection of games since the SNES. There's room for different perspectives here but you're holding onto this console-warish mentality that anyone who slights Nintendo is out to get them. I purchased the Wii twice and own a Wii U so I'm pretty sure you can't paint me as some Nintendo hater. I just wasn't a fan of the Wii era.
I really wish the game made more use of Composite cables or HDMI at least. The progressive scan thing was nice, but we never got the benefit of the titles in true HD.
The WiiU can emulate teh games, and even when plugged in through HDMI it won't do progressive scan on them. Its terrible.
Calm down and put paragraph, man.
As far as 3rd parties goes, all claim that 3rd parties offering were lacking goes contrary to all the data we have.
You can find people that hated the NES's 3rd party offering too.
Doesn't change the fact that a huge number of software were sold and in general people didn't seem unhappy with what they bought when they bought them or it would have fizzled way quicker than that.
When the offering stopped coming, people stopped buying.
Looking at numbers ps3 had a similarly appealing 3rd party lineup (if it didn't they would have sold more).
I really wish the game made more use of Composite cables or HDMI at least. The progressive scan thing was nice, but we never got the benefit of the titles in true HD.
The WiiU can emulate teh games, and even when plugged in through HDMI it won't do progressive scan on them. Its terrible.
That's a real disgrace really, I wonder if we can mod the Wii to make this better in some way.
Prevolition
Member
Loved the Wii. Playing Wii Sports with my buddies on launch day is a good memory I'll never forget.
Both Zeldas and 3D Marios are top notch in my book. I can't get enough of pointer controls and I'm thankful Nintendo kept the sensor bar with Wii U. I also think I'm someone who "gets" motion controls and I believe they greatly enhanced Skyward Sword's gameplay (which also boasts my favorite story, characters and dungeon+boss - Ancient Cistern).
Keep those fresh ideas coming, Nintendo. I look forward to how NX may shake things up.
Both Zeldas and 3D Marios are top notch in my book. I can't get enough of pointer controls and I'm thankful Nintendo kept the sensor bar with Wii U. I also think I'm someone who "gets" motion controls and I believe they greatly enhanced Skyward Sword's gameplay (which also boasts my favorite story, characters and dungeon+boss - Ancient Cistern).
Keep those fresh ideas coming, Nintendo. I look forward to how NX may shake things up.
I haven't moved a single goal post, you can make believe that to try and fit your cobbled together argument. The point I'm making is that the Wii doesn't have bad third party support. You and other people are trying to paint a picture that was being painted by the "console wars" garbage that you mention and here you are perpetuating it. The reality is, whether you personally like the games or not, the third party support on Wii is not garbage and it's not all shovelware. At a certain point during a debate you have to start acknowledging facts and quality beyond your opinion or you have no argument. This is like me saying the PS3 has bad first party support because I didn't like Uncharted. Do you realize how ridiculous and childish that sounds? You can keep making believe that you're above this because it's just an "entertainment device" and I'm embarrassing myself yet you continue to engage in conversation.
The game library is the console. It doesn't do much without the games. Sure, there's power and stuff to consider, but in the end, the games are the star.