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It's 2015, and Men Are Still Being Pussies About Eating Pussy (Jezebel)

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entremet

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Excuse the trademark Gawker snark, but an interesting piece about modern heterosexual sexual behaviors.

In explaining why he will never “turn your cherry out,” a man named William Lloyd may have just inadvertently pinned down why casual sex is so bad for straight women: because for some men, the very thing that will help women achieve orgasm is too gross and traumatic to ever attempt more than once.

In a piece called “Why I Don’t Go Down on Girls” over at The Tab, Lloyd explains that people are always shocked by his admission that he’s a lazy, squeamish lover. He admits he grew up in a perfect storm of sexual ignorance—no sex-ed and plenty of Catholic guilt. Like most men, he was fed a steady diet of free online porn which prepared him for sex “about as well as a man with a bazooka is equipped to swat flies.”

After unsurprising bad luck with women, he eventually found someone willing to fuck him. However, Lloyd writes, he was unprepared for the realities of sex

But one “bad” experience is no reason to never try again. I should also point out that another straight hetero dude who outed himself as a cunnilingus hater also admitted his first experience attempting it was a bad one. Coincidence? If every woman who’d ever been jizzed on wrong stopped sucking dick, well, there’d be a lot less dick sucking.

Let us compare this situation to an essay we covered by Alison Stevenson, a woman who announced her own hatred for oral sex and subsequent decision to stop giving blowjobs. Here’s the thing: Alison Stevenson and William Lloyd both find giving oral sex gross and not fun. Lloyd did it once, hated it, and swore it off forever, whereas Stevenson gave head for most of her head-appropriate life, never got off, and finally got fed up.

By not sucking dick, Stevenson has prevented no man from still getting off via sex. By not going down on women, Lloyd has effectively refused to give women orgasms from sex, while ostensibly continuing to get them for himself. This is why Alison Stevenson is a hero, and William Lloyd is the exact opposite. Here is a dude who has merely admitted aloud what legions of men have been doing for ages: not giving a shit whether the women they fuck come or not, and expecting applause.

But the more important lesson here is that a large, essential part of what it means to be a good lover is to take pleasure in giving pleasure. It means moving past the squeamishness we’ve all had in some way or another about sex parts and treating sex as a mutually respectful, very fun way to relieve stress that both partners should benefit from. Bad casual sex between hetero men and women may have reached near epidemic levels, so listen up, boys: why not get over yourself and be part of the solution?

I do remember reading some studies that many women have trouble climaxing with vaginal sex alone and receiving oral sex or manual stimulation from partners has better results.

http://jezebel.com/its-2015-and-men-are-still-being-pussies-about-eating-1739032791
 

No Love

Banned
No link? No oral for you.

Some girls like it up and down, side to side, or in circles, or even just saying the alphabet and getting those tongue motions. I'm happy to do it all.

Just please don't squirt in my face.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I do not understand this and I do not understand men.
 

Firemind

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By not sucking dick, Stevenson has prevented no man from still getting off via sex. By not going down on women, Lloyd has effectively refused to give women orgasms from sex, while ostensibly continuing to get them for himself. This is why Alison Stevenson is a hero, and William Lloyd is the exact opposite. Here is a dude who has merely admitted aloud what legions of men have been doing for ages: not giving a shit whether the women they fuck come or not, and expecting applause.
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I love going down, but in my defense, a hairy bush is worse for a guy than it is for a woman. They don't necessarily have to be in it.

Plus I guess some people are grossed out by bodily fluids that aren't saliva and their own blood (and even then)

That's rididuclus though. Even if women have a harder time orgasming from vaginal penetration in general this is still crazy
 

Guess Who

Banned
I once had a small argument with a man - who is a GAF poster I shall not name - about how absolutely disgusting he found the idea of giving a woman oral and he'd never do it, while being insistent that his partners give him BJs.
 
I get off more on giving her pleasure than the opposite. The few times I've gotten laid, I go at it like it's an all you can eat buffet. And in this buffet all they serve is pussy.
 

Viewt

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That's crazy. Guys, being able to go down on a lady boosts your sexual worth tremendously. Remember that a sizable portion of women can't even achieve orgasm through penetrative stimulation. Clitoral stimulation is crucial to a healthy sex life for most women, so barring yourself from that kind of activity is really selfish, and kind of cruel.

Basically, you wanna get it? You gotta give it.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I still meet guys who think performing oral means they're surrendering their manhood. It's rather pathetic.

How is getting face deep in pussy surrendering your manhood?

I seriously don't get this.
 

Captain Pants

Killed by a goddamned Dredgeling
Maybe it's because I've never had a bad experience, but it's one of my favorite things to do. There's nothing like knowing you've gotten someone off.
 
Very sexist article in my opinion. If the question was "why don't all females suck dick?" you could be sure there'd be some outrage. I guess the more common question is "why don't more girls try anal?"
 
But just as you shouldn't pressure a woman to give head shouldn't it be the same for a man? I'll be honest, this is what I tell myself since my boyfriend doesn't give head because he says he doesn't like it. Should I be doing something differently then, GAF?
 

Arkos

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There are men who don't like going down? Why? Doesn't make any sense.

It's pretty easy, I really don't see how a man could be bad at it...

Personally, huge fan, and every woman I've been with has seemed to enjoy it. Turns them on and it turns me on, its a win, win.
 

atr0cious

Member
Most of those guys probably chuckle at just the mention 69, and then don't want to do it? What the fuck? Not only does it own giving pleasure to your lover, but if you're egotistical, it can help pad your "stats." Women are arguably one of the only female species to achieve orgasm, why would we deny them that?
 
I like eating out. It seems weird to me to not do it unless the woman has hygeine issues. However, I follow the rule of, if it's bad enough to not put my mouth to it, I ain't puttin anything in it. Instant turnoff.
 
In defense of women and the blowjob parallels being drawn, I'd imagine penis's are a bit more difficult. Doesn't excuse the fact no one should be forced to do anything they don't want to.

However, oral is awesome. One of the best parts of sex. I think what the article lost on is that it should focus on getting rid of negative stigma's about giving oral, not demonizing all men for not doing it.
 

dralla

Member
Can't say I've heard much about this before. The dude's I've talked to all do it.

Oh well, more for me then, nomnom
 

Captain Pants

Killed by a goddamned Dredgeling
Very sexist article in my opinion. If the question was "why don't all females suck dick?" you could be sure there'd be some outrage. I guess the more common question is "why don't more girls try anal?"

It's a massively different issue. Most women aren't going to have an orgasm from penetration. If you want her to have a good time in the bedroom, you've got to get down there.
 

Viewt

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I don't get it either. They seem to be of the opinion that pleasing someone sexually is strictly a feminine trait. MRA/PUA/TRP groups are full of that mindset.

I think the connotation for some men is that, by going down on a woman, they're giving pleasure, but not receiving any, which is contrary to their whole view on sex, which is centered around male pleasure.

Odds are this kind of dude probably isn't giving ladies orgasms through regular sex, either.
 
To quote American Dad; "I get off, when they get off".

Pretty much exactly how I feel. My favorite part of sex is making sure my woman is satisfied.
 

Savitar

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Going down on a woman is a joy. But first one must work their way up the inner thigh, nibble, bite, lick, all that good stuff even as you caress around. Once you finally get there you should already have her in a good state of arousal, no need to run ones tongue around too fast, take your time, make them feel every good lick, the length of your tongue. Nibble around, bite a bit if they can handle it. And if you know know they are loving every moment lost in the pleasure of it place your arms around their hips and yank them forward tight to your mouth as you go to town on them.

Their gasp will be a sign you are doing it right.
 

Ishida

Banned
What the fuck? I haven't met a single man who doesn't enjoy going down on a girl. And now I'm reading this is a widespread issue?
 

Into

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Billy. Billy! The other day, I was going down on my girlfriend, I said to her, "Jeez you got a big pussy. Jeez you got a big pussy." She said, "Why did you say that twice?" I said, "I didn't."


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