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Will Obsidian do a new Fallout?

Durante

Member
I was hoping that if they got their hands on it, they'd nix the voice PC.
The majority of the modern Fallout fanbase would likely see that as a step back. And consequently, that's probably not the game Bethesda would want made.

We're better off with Obsidian working independently (or perhaps with Paradox).
 
I hope they do. Base it in Florida with swamps and a Disney world type place. Be fantastic.

Bethesda would get a slice of the profit as well so it makes sense for another team to make it so they can concentrate on Elder Scrolls.

Or just make New Vegas backwards compatible with Xbox one
 

Lingitiz

Member
No way in Heaven Bethesda Softworks would allow that to happen. They invested a lot into a voiced PC and made a really big deal out of it. Having it in a spinoff would be contractually required.

Publishers don't just give 3rd party devs a big bag of money and a license to develop one of their biggest properties no strings attached. They come with major requirements and must haves. And a voiced PC will probably be at the top of that list.

I'd like to think the mostly mixed reaction to a voiced PC would deter them from going down that route again, but hey Bethesda refuses to improve so many aspects of their games that I would believe they would think its the right choice to have one.
 
With DLC as high-level as it is now, Bethesda could easily add an entire second game's worth of content to Fallout 4 (and given the price of the season pass, that's exactly what they intend to do).

Hopefully that's not their only plans though. Elder Scrolls VI in 2018, baby!
 
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Even if it does happen, it would probably the Southwest or West Coast again, aka the traditional Fallout setting. Places like Florida or Boston or China or New York sound like spinoff territory.
 

tuxfool

Banned
I don't really think Obsidian could fully leverage their strengths when creating an "AAA", voiced PC, reduced-dialogue game.

They could just rip out the FO4 dialogue system. It is clearly awfully implemented and not very deeply into the games systems.
 
At this point I would rather them do their own thing. Bethesda is taking it in their direction, we have inXile with Wasteland 2 and (if post apocalyptic) Van Buren. And every decision Bethesda makes with their Fallouts makes it harder to make an RPG out of it.

This. Sure I would love to get another proper, Obisidian-developed Fallout title and I'm sure they would move heaven and earth again to make a proper RPG out of it (including replacing that dreaded new dialog system with the old one).

However, the prospect of an ongoing cycle of Bethesda making one of their bastardized takes on the Fallout universe that is then followed by another Obsidian-developed title that actually does the series justice which is then followed by another Bethesda-bastardization is a bit silly, to be honest. I think that, at this point, it's better to let it rest and let the series be what it unfortunately was turned into.

Ultimately, it will be mainly up to whether Bethesda is interested in having a third party create the proper fourth entry to the Fallout series after their own spin-off just as they handled things with the third part. Obsidian have more or less publicly stated that they're interested, but I wonder whether they're not better off with doing other projects instead.
 

nded

Member
Whatever inXile does with Van Buren/Meantime is probably the closest you'll get. Though it will probably be an overhead isometric RPG rather than first person.
 
Bethesda Fallout is where it is at.


Also, the whole yearly/biyearly release with alternating team things sucks. See CoD and AC.

New Vegas felt like a mod compilation with a new questline.
Yeah, no. Fanfiction Fallout is not where it is at. And calling NV a mod compilation with a new questline is nothing but ignorance.

Get out of here
 
Whatever inXile does with Van Buren/Meantime is your best bet. Though it will probably be an overhead isometric RPG rather than first person.

Yep. There's also a real possibility that Chris Avellone is going to be involved with that one. I'm wondering though when we they're going to start development on this and/or when we can expect a possible kickstarter. They're still working on Torment at the moment and next up is Bard's Tale, so it seems like an inXile developed Van Buren is still years off.
 

RowdyReverb

Member
I would be happy if they did a $30 standalone Fallout game half the size of FO4. Something like Wolfenstein: The Old Blood. Of course, a full Fallout game from them would also be incredible, but I'm not holding my breath.
 
Bethesda Fallout is where it is at.


Also, the whole yearly/biyearly release with alternating team things sucks. See CoD and AC.

New Vegas felt like a mod compilation with a new questline.

Well, that would explain why some Skyrim fan mods (interesting NPCs) are better than anything Bethesda does in their games. New Vegas is a mod that makes Fallout 3 good then lol

It doesnt surprise me the tag you got with those kinds of responses.
 

Mivey

Member
Whatever inXile does with Van Buren/Meantime is probably the closest you'll get. Though it will probably be an overhead isometric RPG rather than first person.
Wouldn't be a bit unpractical for them though: They already have (moderately) succesful IP in the post apocalyptic RPG genre. Why not just combine it with Wasteland?
Wasteland 3 : Van Buren
 

BigTnaples

Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
New Vegas was fun. I finished it, finished all of the DLC too.


However Obsidian gets too much credit. They iterated on an already great game and system. Yes there were improvements, in the questline, and you can argue back and forth about the writing.

That said, the world building was a huge step back, and most of the new gameplay features, like ADS, Hardcore Mode, Companions, etc, were all featured in FO3 mods before NV was even announced.


Props to Obsidian for maintaining Fallout in the intermediary period, but really they stood on the shoulders of giants to achieve what they did. People make it seem as if they created it from scratch, or worse, that the game engine and tools in place somehow slowed them down.
 

QaaQer

Member
Bethesda intentionally fucks over partners and then tries to buy them on the cheap. Obsidian almost went bankrupt because of NV. So unless beth changes management and offer really good terms, no.
 

Ultimadrago

Member
Not the best idea on a first thread.

In any case, I feel people should move on from the idea. Let Obsidian utilize their heads to make use of properties they own.

Bethesda doesn't need Obsidian to make their games financially successful and vice versa.
 
New Vegas was fun. I finished it, finished all of the DLC too.


However Obsidian gets too much credit. They iterated on an already great game and system. Yes there were improvements, in the questline, and you can argue back and forth about the writing.

That said, the world building was a huge step back, and most of the new gameplay features, like ADS, Hardcore Mode, Companions, etc, were all featured in FO3 mods before NV was even announced.


Props to Obsidian for maintaining Fallout in the intermediary period, but really they stood on the shoulders of giants to achieve what they did. People make it seem as if they created it from scratch, or worse, that the game engine and tools in place somehow slowed them down.
Lololololol what a joke you are, buddy.
 

NexusCell

Member
New Vegas was fun. I finished it, finished all of the DLC too.


However Obsidian gets too much credit. They iterated on an already great game and system. Yes there were improvements, in the questline, and you can argue back and forth about the writing.

That said, the world building was a huge step back, and most of the new gameplay features, like ADS, Hardcore Mode, Companions, etc, were all featured in FO3 mods before NV was even announced.


Props to Obsidian for maintaining Fallout in the intermediary period, but really they stood on the shoulders of giants to achieve what they did. People make it seem as if they created it from scratch, or worse, that the game engine and tools in place somehow slowed them down.

I actually felt my blood pressure increase while reading this.
 

QaaQer

Member
New Vegas was fun. I finished it, finished all of the DLC too.


However Obsidian gets too much credit. They iterated on an already great game and system. Yes there were improvements, in the questline, and you can argue back and forth about the writing.

That said, the world building was a huge step back, and most of the new gameplay features, like ADS, Hardcore Mode, Companions, etc, were all featured in FO3 mods before NV was even announced.


Props to Obsidian for maintaining Fallout in the intermediary period, but really they stood on the shoulders of giants to achieve what they did. People make it seem as if they created it from scratch, or worse, that the game engine and tools in place somehow slowed them down.

Lol. Obsidian founders made Fallout 1 and 2.
 

120v

Member
i don't see why it wouldn't be likely. not doing it would be leaving money on the table... the engine is just sitting there, and it's not exactly lightyears beyond what was used for NV.

i think the whole metacritic/bad relations thing is a little overblown, or if not, it's negligible in retrospect since NV ended up being a critical and commercial success. the only thing i'd imagine getting in the way would be prior commitments on obsidian's part. i think at the very least the next game will be outsourced to somebody if not obsidian.

bottom line is it wouldn't make business sense to release these games between a ~7 year gap when there's a sensible way around it
 

gblues

Banned
Even if it does happen, it would probably the Southwest or West Coast again, aka the traditional Fallout setting. Places like Florida or Boston or China or New York sound like spinoff territory.

The perfect counter-point to Boston would be Portland, which only avoided being named Boston due to a coin toss.
 

nded

Member
Wouldn't be a bit unpractical for them though: They already have (moderately) succesful IP in the post apocalyptic RPG genre. Why not just combine it with Wasteland?
Wasteland 3 : Van Buren

Who knows? Maybe they'll make Van Buren more FPS/open world to appeal to Fallout fans who started with the new ones.
 

Hektor

Member
New Vegas was fun. I finished it, finished all of the DLC too.


However Obsidian gets too much credit. They iterated on an already great game and system. Yes there were improvements, in the questline, and you can argue back and forth about the writing.

That said, the world building was a huge step back, and most of the new gameplay features, like ADS, Hardcore Mode, Companions, etc, were all featured in FO3 mods before NV was even announced.


Props to Obsidian for maintaining Fallout in the intermediary period, but really they stood on the shoulders of giants to achieve what they did. People make it seem as if they created it from scratch, or worse, that the game engine and tools in place somehow slowed them down.

This gotta be a form of trolling together with his avatar and tag'n'shit. This gotta be, this gotta be.
 

BigTnaples

Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Lol. Obsidian founders made Fallout 1 and 2.

Something I am well aware of. Was not talking about Fallout the franchise. I was referring to the game systems in place.


Much the same as Kotor II iterated on Kotor I. Of course it improved in some areas, but it also took huge steps back in others.

Obsidian does best iterating on already great franchises, and even then, they have a rough time.

Alpha Protocol, while it has it's moments and some cool ideas, has more of a cult following than anything else. And that's because while some aspects are great, most are mediocre.
 

QaaQer

Member
I dunno man.
The writing was better in NV, but the world was hollow and shit.
If they could combine the Bethesda world with Obsidian writing, it'd be great.

What is "Bethesda world"? Themepark where everyone is world saving Jesus?
 

Stevey

Member
What is "Bethesda world"? Themepark where everyone is world saving Jesus?

I just got more enjoyment from exploring Fallout 3 than New Vegas.
And to be fair video game writing is the bottom of the barrel anyway, so saying NV is better than FO3 based on it's writing is pretty dumb IMO.
It was a better game and a better Fallout. Hell, I can say it's the only modern Fallout game that exist. The other 2 are poorly written fanfiction.

There's 6 Fallout games.
Nice edit lol.
 
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