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Oculus Rift available for preorder for $599.99, shipping in March

Dineren

Banned
Still no ship estimated date for me, still no confirmation email, I even sent a support email explaining everything and still no response. It's in my orders as preordered, I better get it.

The order status screen and the confirmation email won't show the estimated ship date, it was only shown on the order conrimation screen, hopefully support can tell you. I imagine they are pretty swamped at the moment though. In the past when I've contacted their support it has been pretty fast, but I sent them a question yesterday related to the touch reservation and haven't heard back yet.
 
The thing that gets me is how people not only defend the price point, but also belittle people who think it's way too expensive for VR to get mainstream attention. If even in a gaming enthusiast forum like GAF the vast majority of posts go "WTF", then there's clearly an issue with the price tag.

IDK, my guess was 579 back then, and I'm close, but I still think that it's way more expensive than it should be, for what it's trying to do.

And yes, for that price, I for sure won't bite and wait for the competition's announcements. If my predictions of 250-350 depending on the set for PSVR, and 899 for Vive are right, I'll surely settle for Sony.

Can you point to one post that actually says that? Even if there is, the majority of posters don't have that stance.
 

commish

Jason Kidd murdered my dog in cold blood!
Can you point to one post that actually says that? Even if there is, the majority of posters don't have that stance.

I don't think anyone said that $599 is going to get "mainstream attention" (whatever that means). I still don't understand how the "mainstream" conversation even started. Everyone knows that it will be a slow adoption rate because of the costs.
 

wachie

Member
You guys going "OMFG the price is astronomically high, blah blah blah....", DO know that the PS3 also had an incredibly high price and yet it still sold like hotcakes, right?
You know what else sold like hotcakes at launch? The Wii U.

It wasnt expensive but the implication that it was going to be supply constrained and hugely popular, the things Rift has going it for it now, had the same effect on Wii U.
 
Can you point to one post that actually says that? Even if there is, the majority of posters don't have that stance.

As far as the price goes, I don't think I have outright defended it but I can completely understand it and it doesn't seem unreasonable to me. If that's defending, then yeah, put me in that camp.

As far as mainstream goes, this isn't the unit, price point or year for VR to go mainstream. That price certainly isn't mainstream friendly but it's realistic.
 

Tunesmith

formerly "chigiri"
Yeah, my order page doesn't say anything and I am pretty sure I am in for March. Ordered 3 minutes after orders went up.

It was supposedly on the order summary page after you submit but I didn't look at that too closely.

The order status screen and the confirmation email won't show the estimated ship date, it was only shown on the order conrimation screen, hopefully support can tell you. I imagine they are pretty swamped at the moment though. In the past when I've contacted their support it has been pretty fast, but I sent them a question yesterday related to the touch reservation and haven't heard back yet.

You can gauge which shipping month your order is in based on the Order ID#.
There's a survey compilation on Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/3zrv4y/preliminary_results_of_preorder_survey_order/
 
Doesn't seem taxes are being paid twice in mainland Europe.

I think many haven't realized how far the Euro has slid, it's literally 1euro = $1.09

Right now it works out to 670 euro after tax which is not far off. You could argue the round up is a little steep and with delivery should be in or around 700 euro. Tax is 116 euro, you're really talking about it being 700euro vs around 730euro, that is not a double tax, its a 30euro discrepancy.

if you really was paying tax twice it would be 785 euro and then that would be rounded up to 800 euro, then delivery would bring it to around 830 euro. Tax is 116 euro

With the UK, the pound is very strong, 600USD is £410. With 20% tax it works out to £492 and gets rounded to £500, so around £530.

EU vat varies from 19% to 27%

There was a time when the UK pound and Euro were pretty close but now we have a huge gap. Euro has slid towards the US dollar.
 
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Deleted member 10571

Unconfirmed Member
Can you point to one post that actually says that? Even if there is, the majority of posters don't have that stance.

I probably can not :/ I read through the thread before posting, and it was a lot of pages lol. I just noticed a few posts like that, far from being the majority, but they kinda left a sour taste for me.
I apologize if I made it sound like it's a common thing, it surely isn't (thank fuck).
 
I don't think anyone said that $599 is going to get "mainstream attention" (whatever that means). I still don't understand how the "mainstream" conversation even started. Everyone knows that it will be a slow adoption rate because of the costs.
As far as the price goes, I don't think I have outright defended it but I can completely understand it and it doesn't seem unreasonable to me. If that's defending, then yeah, put me in that camp.

As far as mainstream goes, this isn't the unit, price point or year for VR to go mainstream. That price certainly isn't mainstream friendly but it's realistic.
Yeah, I'm specifically talking about anyone defending the $599 price point as "mainstream". I've been reading all of these threads and I can't remember even one post that says that let alone belittles others for disagreeing.

I probably can not :/ I read through the thread before posting, and it was a lot of pages lol. I just noticed a few posts like that, far from being the majority, but they kinda left a sour taste for me.
I apologize if I made it sound like it's a common thing, it surely isn't (thank fuck).

Ok cool. As long as you realize that's not the case here.
 
this thing will sell great!!! people buy tv's that cost thousands of dollars!!!! this is no different buying a tv!!! In fact, lets make all kinds of other awesome comparisons to other devices that totally make sense, because VR is totally not an incredibly niche product!!! it's just like tv's and mobile phones!!!! I mean, I spent 80 grand on my house, so people will totally buy this!!!
 
So yes, the Rift is fairly priced, but pointing to the PS4 isn't valid.
Why? The post I responded to was in response to Luckey saying the difference between US and UK price is due to country specific taxes and not an inflation beyond that as with some consoles.The PS4 at launch, where the exchange rate was about as weak as it is now, and is still is priced (slightly) higher than in the US, the Rift isn't.
 
this thing will sell great!!! people buy tv's that cost thousands of dollars!!!! this is no different buying a tv!!! In fact, lets make all kinds of other awesome comparisons to other devices that totally make sense, because VR is totally not an incredibly niche product!!! it's just like tv's and mobile phones!!!! I mean, I spent 80 grand on my house, so people will totally buy this!!!

80 grand on a house, eh.
 

Tunesmith

formerly "chigiri"
1 US Dollar equals 0.92 Euro

Those 700€ are, for sure, with VAT/taxes.
Yeah some tax seems baked in at least. If you look at the order info page's source it breaks it down for you.

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  • original_offer_price: €699.00
  • customs_fee: €0.00
  • customs_fee_tax: €0.00
  • shipping_handling_fee: €34.96
  • shipping_handling_fee_tax: €8.04
  • tax: €130.71
  • total: €742.00

  • Price without tax or shipping: €568.29 = $616.93
 
I'm always looking for opinions on screen comparisons only, so this. I know it can be hard to separate that one component from the entire experience, but since I'm mostly going to play retrofitted games (racing sims) in VR, a lot of the other fluff is secondary to me.

Only direct comparison I could find between the Vive Pre and CV1 display quality is from UploadVR: The heavy ridges of the HTC Vive’s Fresnel lenses are still clearly visible if you’re looking for them, especially in bright white scenes, like Solfar’s Everest demo, which I had a chance to try. Additionally, when watching scenes with a high amount of contrast, such as white title text on a black background, there is a noticeable amount of light flaring. This is something that Oculus specifically corrected for in the final version. Neither of these things are dealbreakers, but they do fall into the ‘once you notice them, you can’t not notice them’ category for me. The headset is quite good and where it loses to the Oculus Rift’s consumer version in optics and display, it makes up for with robust tracking and immediate support for hand-tracked controllers
 
Mainstream market isn't obtainable right now simply because of the hardware requirements that aren't part of the headset cost. They know that, they know there's no way to get around serving early adopters first, so they focused on quality instead of keeping costs of the headset as low as possible. I get why that is a big disappointment here because a lot of people already have the gaming PC capable of VR so the price of the headset is the hurdle but from the perspective of Oculus, they would be sacrificing quality to make the true price of entry for mainstream from $1200-$1300 instead of $1500. It doesn't open that door.
 

labx

Banned
Ok, so playstation have an advantage point. The dude that said 300 dollars is drunk in the video by the way he is playing SWBF. My guess or bet still is. PSVR 450 bundle with No Man Sky or 400 solo. Wait until E3 and stop the speculation.

Some thoughts: you have to own a high end PC for oculus right? That means that the PC is around the 1000-2000 dollars?, plus 600 dollars of VR. thats a total of 2600 hundred dollars or more, I'm I wrong? Thats like 5 PS4
 
Ok, so playstation have an advantage point. The dude that said 300 dollars is drunk in the video by the way he is playing SWBF. My guess or bet still is. PSVR 450 bundle with No Man Sky or 400 solo. Wait until E3 and stop the speculation.

Some thoughts: you have to own a high end PC for oculus right? That means that the PC is around the 1000-2000 dollars?, plus 600 dollars of VR. thats a total of 2600 hundred dollars or more, I'm I wrong? Thats like 5 PS4
$1500 is the total for an Oculus and a PC that meets its recommended specs. They're going to be bundling PC + headset for that price on their site next month.
 

Dineren

Banned
Ok, so playstation have an advantage point. The dude that said 300 dollars is drunk in the video by the way he is playing SWBF. My guess or bet still is. PSVR 450 bundle with No Man Sky or 400 solo. Wait until E3 and stop the speculation.

Some thoughts: you have to own a high end PC for oculus right? That means that the PC is around the 1000-2000 dollars?, plus 600 dollars of VR. thats a total of 2600 hundred dollars or more, I'm I wrong? Thats like 5 PS4

Oculus will be selling desktop/oculus combos that start at 1499. So not quite.
 
Start panicking

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http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01A9ENM6U/

(definitely not a placeholder price)

This is $800 USD. Chances of it being placeholder are high, but its odd that this converts to $800 USD. Must be a PS4 + VR combo right?

Based on the source code, looks like Amazon did a few updates to the PSVR pages this AM and someone put a number in for the Canadian version of it. Others are still empty.

It's likely an error, but its still surprising to see someone entering it in. There is always the pre-order price guarantee so they will give you your money back if it drops.
 

Dineren

Banned
I'm much more worried about the touch reservation. I think I really screwed up by not getting it reserved when I preordered.
 
I'm much more worried about the touch reservation. I think I really screwed up by not getting it reserved when I preordered.
Yeah, I walked away from my computer without seeing that option and by the time I got back the option had expired. Is there any way to still put down a reservation? Hopefully down the line they will notice I was in the first shipment and let me order, lol.
 
1 US Dollar equals 0.92 Euro

Those 700€ are, for sure, with VAT/taxes.

Thanks I had them switched around by accident; Post edited.

So with the Euro the way it is being so close to the dollar these days, it's going to be around 700 euro, it's just how it works out.

Once this starts getting into shops, they might get the thing down to €670 after tax if we assume its staying at 600USD. Anyone getting upset really has to wait for this thing to get out there first.

I understand psychologically 700 euro sounds bonkers but the euro situation and ~20% Tax makes it this way.
 
I'm much more worried about the touch reservation. I think I really screwed up by not getting it reserved when I preordered.

Oculus Customer Support on Reddit: If you completed a preorder, and you received an order confirmation with an order number, you are defaulted to opting in to reserve your Touch preorder spot.
 

GeoGonzo

Member
Yeah, I walked away from my computer without seeing that option and by the time I got back the option had expired. Is there any way to still put down a reservation? Hopefully down the line they will notice I was in the first shipment and let me order, lol.
Hm... If I were you guys I'd consider opening a support ticket and asking if they can add a Touch reservation to your order. It may not be possible and their support is probably swamped with tickets at the moment, so I wouldn't expect a swift reply... but it is better than doing nothing.
-edit-
Oculus Customer Support on Reddit: If you completed a preorder, and you received an order confirmation with an order number, you are defaulted to opting in to reserve your Touch preorder spot.

Well nevermind then :)
 

Dineren

Banned
That's great to hear. I had submitted a ticket yesterday just in case, but it's nice to know I won't have to worry about it.
 
I think the long delivery waits and the hype will keep the secondary market on eBay strong: people aren't going to cancel, they will just sell them on eBay "sealed new in box".
Id assume a decent amount of people won't be able to come up with the $600. I'm very thankful for tax returns
 
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