KampferZeon
Neo Member
Its my opinion take it or leave
Also concentrate on the subject, mh is a *portable* game, meant to be played as a local/wifi multiplayer game with 4 friends.
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Capcom Q3 FY 2016 Results: Monster Hunter X (Cross) 3.2 million
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Its my opinion take it or leave
Also concentrate on the subject, mh is a *portable* game, meant to be played as a local/wifi multiplayer game with 4 friends.
GhostTrick
Banned
The subject is Capcom's financial results. I guess they made the decision which made sense money wise.
feint_ruled
Member
A little harsh, no? Vita visual fidelity is demonstrably better than the 3DS. Of course, they have no financial reason to move the series off 3DS, no matter how much some individuals would like.
GhostTrick
Banned
A lot of people think they would have a Monster Hunter with PS3 visual fidelity when we might get something closer to other hunting games on Vita, like Soul Sacrifice or God Eater 2, which aren't that far from what we already got with MH series at higher res.
KampferZeon
Neo Member
Wait another year or so for MH NX. It will have all that that you mentioned, and more!
I hope so too. MH deserves better.
Gotdatmoney
Member
No not really. If they are gonna put MH anywhere make the full jump to a console. Don't waste time on a stop gap system that sold basically nothing. They arent going to produce that graphical showpiece that everyone seems so detetmined to have on vita.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
are those the same magazines which said Capcom is going to make a mainline MH Vita, once the imaginary Nintendo-Capcom contract expire?
DrROBschiz
Member
I dont care where it goes as long as it gets off of 3DS
NX cannot come soon enough
As for Vita MH? I would gladly jump on board... even this late. Toukiden proved you can make a beautiful hunting game thats Cross Play with PS4
NX cannot come soon enough
As for Vita MH? I would gladly jump on board... even this late. Toukiden proved you can make a beautiful hunting game thats Cross Play with PS4
KampferZeon
Neo Member
One last thing from me then
MH is a system seller, PSP was single handly saved by MH, remember? People will buy MH even if its on vita.
Putting it on 3DS didnt eclipse psp best selling version means it has failed to repeat its peak.
The only benefit is capcom is able to market mh on 3DS better in the west .
Maybe i shouldnt mention the graphics fidelity in my OP since people are now sidestepping/ignoring the major compaints. i.e controller discomfort and super low screen resolution
feint_ruled
Member
Well, it's pretty clear they position it as a portable game. The idea behind the Vita port is that it would allow for some growth without needing the quantum leap in asset quality a PS4 version would need. The perception being the series is being held back by the 3DS.
Xion_Stellar
People should stop referencing data that makes me feel uncomfortable because games get ported to platforms I don't like
Still waiting on a localization announcement for Monster Hunter X Capcom..
DrROBschiz
Member
Could depend a LOT on Japan and what the NX plans are
PS4/Vita cross play MH game seemed like a not brainer easy money to me since the PS4 launched....
We dont know whats going on behind the scenes overseas man. Just going to have to wait and see how these relationships sort out going forward
I dont know what the timeline is before the core team announces its next project.
KampferZeon
Neo Member
Ok one last time.
Nope. It was published around mhx launch. A visit to the capcom dev team office, doing some interviews with developers.
Afaik the contract only appears in internet forum.
I dont believe it.
DrROBschiz
Member
Its a debate not worth really having anymore
MHX seems to be the capper on 3DS (along with the spin off games) since NX is on the horizon
I eagerly await their next project announcement.
That said I also am suspecting that the MHX localization will be an NX launch title in the west. They might be working on an updated port of some sort to release globally
Thats my prediction at the moment
DrROBschiz
Member
Its low fidelity
They put a lot of man hours into animation work, content creation, etc...
But they also have a very efficient creation process and have been using the same tools for a long time
KampferZeon
Neo Member
It really is not a perception
A reality check, may i ask u where is minecraft 3ds?
kids + minecraft + 3ds /nds would be unbelievable.
feint_ruled
Member
I know, right? My kid would love to have minecraft on his 3DS. Sad truth is, I really doubt it is powerful enough. The New 3DS perhaps.
As a side note, MS are doing some serious optimisation work on Minecraft to get it fit for VR (even roped in John Carmack!) I wonder will they let other platforms reap the benefit.
EDIT: Actually seems more like John Carmack roped in MS - http://venturebeat.com/2015/01/27/h...rosoft-to-let-him-make-minecraft-for-gear-vr/
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
It's probably very close to platinum, but not quite there yet. Maybe a big sales push on steam and psn/xbl?
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Devil May Cry franchise - 5 Major installments, total 15 million sold.
Devil May Cry 4: 3,000,000
Devil May Cry 3: 2,300,000
Devil May Cry 2: 1,700,000
Devil May Cry 1: 2,160,000
DmC: Devil May Cry: 1,700,000
Devil May Cry HD Collection: 1,000,000
Sales of DmC: Definitive Edition and Devil May Cry 4 Special Edition are probably very close to one million. Capcom has disclosed that DMC4:SE sold very well, although specific numbers were not given.
Devil May Cry 4: 3,000,000
Devil May Cry 3: 2,300,000
Devil May Cry 2: 1,700,000
Devil May Cry 1: 2,160,000
DmC: Devil May Cry: 1,700,000
Devil May Cry HD Collection: 1,000,000
Sales of DmC: Definitive Edition and Devil May Cry 4 Special Edition are probably very close to one million. Capcom has disclosed that DMC4:SE sold very well, although specific numbers were not given.
Gotdatmoney
Member
The original discussion was nothing about ports. It was that Capcom made the right move going with Nintendo over Somy in the handheld space (which they did) followed by "but it didnt sell as well as the best selling entry, therefore vita is a better choice". This was nothing about porting. The 3DS proviides a way healthier platform for monster hunter to thrive. They could port it but I'm sure they would rather focus staff on ther projects and would rather not set the precedence for a vita version and lose nintendos marketing in the process.
If they are going to port they should go console. Bigger more active userbase and more potential for people to jump in. Of course I dont see them porting for a while.
Pennywise83
Banned
I think people always overestimate how many people would be willing to purchase a console MH game in Western countries, especially considering the loss in sales in the domestic market. I know it was a new IP and not exactly the same genre, but DD showed how much Western gamers care - and the original PS2 MH game also sold bad in North America.
Gotdatmoney
Member
I agree with you in concept. But if you look at what Capcom and Nintendo has done with the series, the push was to increase the titles popularity in the west. If you are going to waste resources to port, are you going to go for the system with zero western presence or are you going to go with the consoles that actually have an install base?
Further more. I domt actually believe its fair to compare PS2 Monster Hunter to now. That was 2 generations ago. Growth and change in the console market has been pretty significant. Tri on Wii did 800k in the west. I think its a better comparison poi. It atleast released in the last decade
But obviously I fully agree going primarily console ovet handheld would be crazy. MH is not going to sell the extra 3 million on consoles in the wesr necessary to match the Japanese sales on handhelds. And with 4U over a million now the allure is even lesser.
Night Angel
Member
MH has been steadily gaining popularity in the West, so the sales of the original MH title don't really mean much about how the game could perform on consoles today. I imagine the sales of a new MH game would correlate with the number of players on whatever platform it comes out on, assuming those players' interests extended into Japanese ARPGs. Basically, I wouldn't write off the potential for success a PS4 or NX (maybe, if it actually sells) MH game could achieve.
At the moment, it probably doesn't make sense for them to drop 3DS support given the proven fanbase of the handheld. However, I think there could be significant value in tapping the huge console market in the West.
FreedomFighter
Member
In order to replicate that peak, Capcom should put it on Vita? I don't really see how you got to this conclusion here, given the circumstances.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
You have a link on that story?
Guess selling 4.1 million seperately for MH4 and MH4U are not enough, despite that the total sales has eclipsed Vita's install base in Japan.
DrROBschiz
Member
Its weird
We could argue its too late for Vita to get into the Monster Hunter game but...
Its still has an active presence in Japan... where MH matters the most. Who knows
FreedomFighter
Member
It really just sounds like you two are port-begging (again).
I thought we were all past MH for Vita in Monster Hunter threads. Guess not.
This makes no sense. Are you arguing that it should have been on vita and maybe it would have sold what portable 3rd has? Also this ignores a ton of context. Portable 3rd came out damn near 6 years ago, the Japanese games market is far different now with mobile being the beast it is and game sales across the board shrinking. In addition to that monster hunter as a series has done better in the west now than ever before.
feint_ruled
Member
The thinking would be that a straight port might mean that despite sales reaching their peak you could flog another yet another 1 million copies to the exact same people as bought the 3DS one. But it's never going to happen.
DrROBschiz
Member
Aww dont be a dick
My posts are just being somewhat reasonable. I personally believe NX is the future and Im ok with it since Sony has no intention of making another portable
Don't say never, Sony "could" announce a new portable at E3
FreedomFighter
Member
Sorry if I struck a nerve. I know you probably don't like being called out on it, but everyone can see it.
DrROBschiz
Member
MH does good on 3DS in the west->Strike whilst the iron's hot and put it on PS4.
If MH had done bad on 3DS in the west->needs to be on PS4.
We are past that, now we're onto MH for consoles/PS4.
If MH had done bad on 3DS in the west->needs to be on PS4.
We are past that, now we're onto MH for consoles/PS4.
Jawmuncher
Member
RE6 should hit 7 million if the upcoming re-release on PS4 and XB1 is counted .
Good to see RE5 finally reach 7m. This last quarter of their sales chart has been something of a RE period for them with RE5, 6, both Revelations and RE HD. It's crazy how well RE4, 5 and 6 have done compared to their other non-MH franchises. Speaking of, Monster Hunter really is a sales beast (pun slightly intended). I bet Capcom wishes all of their other major franchises, except the numbered REs, did as well. If something like DMC sold like that there'd be no doubts regarding the series future ever.
Edit: Wow, every numbered RE except 0 and 3 have sold close to or exceeding 5m. Seems like 5m+ is the norm for the mainline series. It's a bit strange that a horror-themed franchise like RE has done as well as it has, especially for its main titles.
"Loyal fans" are the only ones that support pachinko.
This sales update is for Q4, as of December 31st as it says on their web page. DD PC sales aren't counted.
They talked about remasters at length in their integrated report in October. They are definitely not done.
On their own? I doubt that. Maybe put together, but DmC DE doesn't have PC sales like DMC4SE to boost the numbers.
Edit: Wow, every numbered RE except 0 and 3 have sold close to or exceeding 5m. Seems like 5m+ is the norm for the mainline series. It's a bit strange that a horror-themed franchise like RE has done as well as it has, especially for its main titles.
"Loyal fans" are the only ones that support pachinko.
This sales update is for Q4, as of December 31st as it says on their web page. DD PC sales aren't counted.
They talked about remasters at length in their integrated report in October. They are definitely not done.
On their own? I doubt that. Maybe put together, but DmC DE doesn't have PC sales like DMC4SE to boost the numbers.
lyrick
Member
You have to remember that "the series peak" sales came from a return to the PSP platform after nearly 3 years of being MIA.
After Freedom Unite MAR-2008, the series went to Wii where it sold 1.9 Million units Absolutely fucking obliterating the sales the series saw on any other home console release (including the 150M+ PS2 base). It could have been the Two year and Nine month (MAR-2008 to DEC-2010) lack of MonHun (and much else) to play on the PSP that actually boosted the sales, and not the platform fanbase.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
will mhx come outside japan? or should i just purchase mh4u?
DrROBschiz
Member
MHX on NX seems so on the nose to me for the western release
I wonder if their marketing team feels the same
then again... NX is just a codename lol
MHX is doing much better than MH4G in Japan, great success for Capcom in that regard. It'll be really interesting to see where they go from now, the 3DS is winding down and we still don't have much info on its successor.
Depends, if they plan on making a G version of MHX, they're probably not going to bother localizing the original and will just start with the G version (same thing happened with MH4).
I don't think they want the series to be annual in the west yet.
Depends, if they plan on making a G version of MHX, they're probably not going to bother localizing the original and will just start with the G version (same thing happened with MH4).
I don't think they want the series to be annual in the west yet.
DrROBschiz
Member
Im cool with that
gives me more time to go back and finish MH4U
lol ill never finish it
gives me more time to go back and finish MH4U
lol ill never finish it
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
Stallion Dan
Member
It would have sold wherever it was.
You haven't. You may have read people on neogaf misreporting saying that. But the story was simply a low level guy who had worked on MH working on something else.
BroodShadow
Member
Glad to see Resident Evil Revelations 2 do well.
It was cheaply made but that did not stop it from being one of the best new RE games in years.
It was cheaply made but that did not stop it from being one of the best new RE games in years.
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