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Salt and Sanctuary |OT| Salt for the Soul
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Copper
Member
At $16 you can't go wrong.
Ok, first boss down - it does kind of annoy me how movement is mapped to the joystick instead of the d-pad and that there's no way of changing that, but I should adapt over time. I'm also sort of feeling like evasion doesn't really work as well on a 2D plane as it does in 3D, but again it's probably just teething issues.
Dang, really? I was on the fence but I think that might be the final straw. Can't stand using sticks for 2d stuff.
Yeah, the d-pad is used for changing items and something else that I haven't tried yet. It just feels like it's not quite as responsive as it would be if movement was on the d-pad.
Admiral Woofington
Member
did we ever get reviews?
edit: whoops just saw them. 8.5 between three of them not bad.
edit: whoops just saw them. 8.5 between three of them not bad.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
First game breaking bug, only less than an hour in
A wolf "threw" me into the wall and I got into another room, now I'm stuck in the wall and can't get out.
This is why you beta test your game when you're a team of 2 people.
A wolf "threw" me into the wall and I got into another room, now I'm stuck in the wall and can't get out.
This is why you beta test your game when you're a team of 2 people.
Begaria
Member
Well, you beta test your game regardless of your team size, but I digress. I remember Ska studios giving Alpha access at least 8 months ago to certain people (like A German Spy), so it must've had a few months of beta since. I know one of the Zeboyd Games guys has had access to the beta for awhile now.
valentine71
Banned
I am about to finish the game (played around 18 hours or so i believe) and that bug occurred only once and apart from that one, there were no bugs at all. Frame-rate and performance of the game is pretty perfect too. From a techinacal perspective you could say the game is flawless.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Haven't various people been playing this on PC for months now? I'm sure it's been tested plenty but like you said, it's two people.
Jimmyfenix
Member
Has anyone tried remote play yet?
For anyone wanting to see how the game runs on the PS4, I made a video in 1080p60: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwj1A2NADxQ
OrbitalBeard
Member
Thanks! What do you think of the game so far?
I really like it! I've only played like 2 hours but I think it's pretty good, I like the combat, the game is hard but not impossible. And it really reminds me of Dark Souls but it has its own style and neat things.
OrbitalBeard
Member
Awesome, can't wait to dive in tomorrow.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
All games have bugs, doesn't mean they weren't properly tested or had poor QA. No need to make dickish comments about the devs.
Nestled_Grizzly
Member
Bought. Let's go! 
RalliArtEvo
Member
Just preordered, cant wait to get started!
PeregrinSe7en
Member
are there co op trophies in this?
the reason i ask is since its local co op only and i dont personally know any other vita owners where i live
the reason i ask is since its local co op only and i dont personally know any other vita owners where i live
NoctisVsStar
Member
Almost there!
Thats the main reason i preordered. Cant bother waiting on vita version. Just gonna play it on remote play.
Really hope when the Vita version releases, its,not a stripped down port. Some vita ports are shitty.
Moon_frogger
Member
WOOOOO i should be going to bed but I'm totally playing this instead
Just checked the trophy list and there doesn't seem to be any co-op trophies. You might want to double check to be sure.
Penguin nerd
Member
No. Trophy list is pretty similar to Dark Souls (as is just about everything in the game
). Though overall I think the list is a bit easier. Mostly just beating each boss, joining each Creed, etc.Working on my review now so I'll just throw some short impressions in. Finished the game once, have another character at the final boss, and have two characters sitting a couple bosses in.
- I'm pretty experienced with the Souls games as this point and thus have found this to be a bit easier. It can still be quite challenging, but I don't think I ever felt like it became unfair. Maybe in one or two spots, but nothing too bad.
- I like the art direction for the most part....I just wish there weren't as many super dark areas.
- Almost everything about the game is taken straight from Dark Souls. Some name changes: Souls -> Salt. Bonfire -> Sanctuary. As a Souls fan? This is a great way to spend my time waiting for Dark Souls 3. Great transition of the Souls genre into 2D. At the same time I think the similarities will turn some people off. I didn't mind it too much, but there are some things later on in the game that felt a bit too close. Would have benefited from trying to change things up a bit.
- Tree of Skill can be overwhelming at first. I got used to it overtime though and grew to like it.
liliththepale
Banned
This game fucking sucks. The hitboxes are awful. The telegraphing is incredibly inconsistent, sometimes huge wind-ups that take eternity and other times instant combos that would have been impossible to see coming. The character movement is terribly broken, like randomly not being able to roll through bosses/enemies for no god damned reason. It's way too easy to get pinned against a wall and then have an enemy infinite you to death, especially thanks to the aforementioned broken as fuck rolling. Difficulty is completely random depending on if the enemies decide to do a really easy attack or a five-string ultra combo thanks to some invisible dice roll.
But hey at least I got to put fun blue hair on my character.
edit: I stand by my first impression but the game does get better if you're more patient.
But hey at least I got to put fun blue hair on my character.
edit: I stand by my first impression but the game does get better if you're more patient.
Welp. Guess I need to wait until Eitr to provide a 2D Souls fix. Thanks for the impressions.
That reminds me, I actually had this confused in my head with Death's Gambit. Dunno just how Soulslike that will really be, but it's definitely another I have my eyes on.
Though I guess that just makes this more of a complete surprise, huh?
Admiral Woofington
Member
For what's it worth I enjoyed my time with the game what I played in 45 mins. Went to my first boss fight at level 1 and had to spam my healing items as I'm still in the learning process. But as a thief I was needing to use items at the end. Beat the boss at the end by pure luck.
I won't disagree about the telegraphing entirely at least with the first boss, but it's not like souls didn't have bosses you didn't need to learn their move set after multiple tries or bosses that felt fairly cheap. At one point I had a good rhythm going against the boss.
Game is probably more unforgiving than souls though with the mobs. You'll have zombies jumping down platforms to get to you lol.
liliththepale
Banned
I mean, I'm more just venting my frustration with not having enough patience at the moment. I'm sure someone with a lot more tolerance for a game where failure isn't always your fault would be able to appreciate the game.
I'm going to give it another try later because I already feel invested in it, and there are some things in the game I'd like to explore more, but at the moment it's just pissing me off incredibly.
Admiral Woofington
Member
The game just came out like an hour again man lol. People are either venting due to frustration, still playing or not have enough play time to form an opinion. Come back in a day or two.
Posted int he other thread but just in case people were not in that thread, Lobos is doing a play through while speaking with he devs
https://www.twitch.tv/lobosjr
https://www.twitch.tv/lobosjr
Admiral Woofington
Member
Biggest complaint so far as someone who wears glasses is the tiny text. Fuck me.
AmethystEnd
Member
LET'S GO. Downloading now
KCroxtonJr
Member
How have I never heard of this...downloading now.
Watched a tiny bit of footage, something that bothers me is the HUD designs in each corner of the screen, makes me think I'm looking at a picture frame or something, is there a way to turn that off? If not, hope the devs make it an option in a update or something.
edit: also, are there any plans to make the co-op online in the future?
Watched a tiny bit of footage, something that bothers me is the HUD designs in each corner of the screen, makes me think I'm looking at a picture frame or something, is there a way to turn that off? If not, hope the devs make it an option in a update or something.
edit: also, are there any plans to make the co-op online in the future?
After playing the first boss a few times, I can say died mostly due to impatience and not using my Souls experience to watch his moves.
I don't think that boss is all that different from Souls bosses except you have to translate the 3D movement into 2D, and take advantage of having more Y axis ability.
To watch people walk away from getting the game after a single negative impression (or even a couple) is laughable in the context of a Souls like game.
I don't think that boss is all that different from Souls bosses except you have to translate the 3D movement into 2D, and take advantage of having more Y axis ability.
To watch people walk away from getting the game after a single negative impression (or even a couple) is laughable in the context of a Souls like game.