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Trump Campaign will not release Trump's taxes

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siddhu33

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Crisco said:
I mean, he's an actual billionaire, unlike Trump. Billionaires know how other billionaires behave, so he probably knew Trump was full of shit about his actual wealth from the jump. The first clue was he was so hesitant to drop $50 million on his campaign. If Trump was nearly as wealthy as he claims, that would be equivalent to impulse buying a video game for the rest of us.
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I mean, look at Michael Bloomberg when he ran for NY, the guy put a ridiculous amount of money into his campaign...and it didnt faze his asset line much at all
 
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Nafai1123

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Whatever the reason, it's pretty clear that whatever it is will damage his campaign. The Dems need to come at him hard about this.
 
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Oblivion

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"So to be clear, Mr. Trump has no financial relationships with any Russian oligarchs?" CBS's Norah O'Donnell asked Manafort.

"That’s what he said, that’s what I said," Manafort responded. "That’s obviously what our position is."
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What the hell kind of statement is that?
 
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El-Suave

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As much as I dislike Trump, comparing his business to what the Clinton's have going is not fair. I don't know how many people they employ in off election years, but I would qualify the money they earn as "easy money". Businessman Trump deserves to get criticized and I'd be interested in how he exploits the tax system, but this shouldn't be a pi..ing contest about who makes more.
 
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Alrus

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Crisco said:
I mean, he's an actual billionaire, unlike Trump. Billionaires know how other billionaires behave, so he probably knew Trump was full of shit about his actual wealth from the jump. The first clue was he was so hesitant to drop $50 million on his campaign. If Trump was nearly as wealthy as he claims, that would be equivalent to impulse buying a video game for the rest of us.
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Yeah, on top of that we've seen non billionaires drop much more personal money on less important campaign before.
 
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studyguy

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SG-17 said:
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/758318428985954304
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jerd

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This is the first election I've really paid attention to but I feel comfortable saying it's the weirdest fucking election ever
 
Mengy

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Crisco said:
I mean, he's an actual billionaire, unlike Trump. Billionaires know how other billionaires behave, so he probably knew Trump was full of shit about his actual wealth from the jump. The first clue was he was so hesitant to drop $50 million on his campaign. If Trump was nearly as wealthy as he claims, that would be equivalent to impulse buying a video game for the rest of us.
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Billionaires don’t create University schemes to steal people’s money, because billionaires don’t have to. They already have lots of money.

All evidence of Trump’s actions point to him not being anywhere near as wealthy as he says he is. He is a mascot for a brand name, that’s it, and the most likely reason for not releasing his taxes is that he simply doesn’t want to ruin that brand image. The evidence also points to him being a pretty shitty businessman who has skated by on Daddy’s money for a very long time.

Do we really want another Nixon in the White House?
 
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mclem

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It's becoming more and more apparent to me that the toughest job in the entire Clinton campaign - other than Candidate, naturally! - is going to be Debate Prep Opponent.
 
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Grym

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Benefit of the doubt....maybe this isn't about Russia.


I mean just look at Nixon 1973. He wouldn't release his taxes. Then...

Nixon in November 1973 said:
People have got to know whether or not their president is a crook. Well, I am not a crook.
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Then...Nixon releases taxes in December 1973 at which point Congressional investigation finds he has nearly half a million dollars in unpaid taxes and interest.

At the end of the day maybe Trump isn't a crook....just like Nixon... :)
 
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El-Suave

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When Trump is asking "the Russians" to hack more secret e-mails, isn't that instigating a crime? That's punishable if the state would go after him, isn't it?
 
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iammeiam

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El-Suave said:
As much as I dislike Trump, comparing his business to what the Clinton's have going is not fair. I don't know how many people they employ in off election years, but I would qualify the money they earn as "easy money". Businessman Trump deserves to get criticized and I'd be interested in how he exploits the tax system, but this shouldn't be a pi..ing contest about who makes more.
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Where it gets weird, though, is that Trump is basing most of his campaign on his personal success. It's not about policy--he doesn't have a lot of firm policies and his entire anti-ISIS strategy is "I'm not telling you so they're surprised."--it's about success and winning and how nobody knows how to win better than Trump.

So Clinton, whose campaign is based around a history of governing, being more successful than Trump at the thing he claims he is great, absolutely spectacular, the best at would be kind of pointed. He claims his name, his brand, is worth billions, which should be the epitome of easy money.

Elections for President shouldn't be about who has the biggest bank account, but when you're telling people to vote for you because you're just awesome at making money, anything that proves out that you're not all that great at it becomes relevant.
 
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IggyChooChoo

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mclem said:
It's becoming more and more apparent to me that the toughest job in the entire Clinton campaign - other than Candidate, naturally! - is going to be Debate Prep Opponent.
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She needs multiple opponents. I think Barney Frank, Al Franken, and Joe Biden constantly tagging in and out could approximate Trump, despite all being much better informed and fundamentally decent and honorable.
 
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This and the questionable Russian ties (even if I don't think there's a relationship - he's not releasing because he doesn't make money or pay taxes) is one of those things that's going to be a huge deal throughout his campaign and his campaign is too inept to realize is going to be a huge deal throughout his campaign.
 
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Keasar

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So his rhetoric is like Nixon.
His neglect to show taxes is like Nixon.
Nixon was also Republican.

History repeats to those who ignore it?
 
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ahoyhoy

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Keasar said:
So his rhetoric is like Nixon.
His neglect to show taxes is like Nixon.
Nixon was also Republican.

History repeats to those who ignore it?
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Nixon was an accomplished statesman and was much lighter on the rhetoric at least.
 
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Palette Swap

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Crooked Donald.

It's pretty telling that his campaign considers it looks better to break away from a (mild) transparency tradition than to be (mildly) transparent.
 
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Ithil

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animlboogy said:
Except her emails got dug through by the FBI. Maybe Trump can get someone from the IRS to comb through his books and give us a thumbs up or thumbs down?
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Never mind that that FB person is apparently wanting her to publicly release her private emails for...some reason? And acting as though that is the same as a presidential candidate refusing to release their tax returns, the first one since Nixon to refuse to do so (and of course, Nixon was a massive tax cheat, which is why he didn't want to release them in the first place).

In short that person is a dope.
 
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Sciz

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The more he resists, the more everyone wants to know what's in there. Man talks such a big game about how crooked the establishment is, but they're not the ones desperate to hide their personal finances.
 
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OriginofHysteria

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Trump has two options. Either drop out and maintain his billionaire status at the risk of hurting his ego or remain in the race, lose his status as a billionaire and damage his ego when he loses.
 
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Stinkles

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OriginofHysteria said:
Trump has two options. Either drop out and maintain his billionaire status at the risk of hurting his ego or remain in the race, lose his status as a billionaire and damage his ego when he loses.
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He literally can't drop out now. They need to make a go of it no matter what happens. He already has the full support of the republican party despite:

Racism
Treason
Multiple financial scandals and lawsuits
Daily lies
Russian Oligarch/Putin breadcrumbs
Multiple bankrupticies
Not releasing his taxes
Misogyny
Atheism


So it doesn't matter what he does, they will see this through to the bitter end. Short of him dying or actually being imprisoned, he's the nominee till November. In theory Pence could team up with some other assclown, but they can't make the jump from a one or two month ramp.
 
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OriginofHysteria

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Stinkles said:
He literally can't drop out now. They need to make a go of it no matter what happens. He already has the full support of the republican party despite:

Racism
Treason
Multiple financial scandals and lawsuits
Daily lies
Russian Oligarch/Putin breadcrumbs
Multiple bankrupticies
Not releasing his taxes
Misogyny
Atheism


So it doesn't matter what he does, they will see this through to the bitter end. Short of him dying or actually being imprisoned, he's the nominee till November. In theory Pence could team up with some other assclown, but they can't make the jump from a one or two month ramp.
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What mess the GOP got themselves into. You reap what you sow I guess.
 
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Raitosaito

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Torokil said:
Of course Putin wants Trump to win, but there is about as much evidence of Trump being a Russian asset in any way as there is of Ted Cruz's dad being a part of the JFK assassination.

I think that Russia did the hacking but Manafort isn't gonna risk his ass having a trip to Guantanamo just to have his guy win the election. That's my beef with this whole thing.
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I'm of the same opinion, but I'm keeping an open mind that anything is possible with this election. I live near Costa Mesa and saw some videos from people to question the morality of Trump's campaign.
 
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